Thibs New Training Questions #5

[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]So What wrote:

[quote]Pat_Butcher wrote:

[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

For some reason, isometrics really do seem to take a lot out of the CNS[/quote]

after reading this, it’s starting to make A LOT of sense… i’ve been doing 1-2 second holds on all my pulling movements ( hitting back 2x a week) and noticed more “lesser-quality” sessions

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Holds arent really comparable to true isometrics in my experience [/quote]

Exactly, and you SHOULD hold the contracted position when working the back for better recruitment.
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hmm maybe coincidence then… idk?[/quote]

Could be just hitting back twice a week? Is that more frequent than normal for you?

Oi, Is there a low border of the total calorie intake of “The Pulse Feast” diet? I have been eating like this for the last 150 days with about 2000 calories a day and I lost 10kg., but as I stardet to unintentionally consume less food than I did before last month (say 1500 cal a day), I gained 4kg. How come? Could it be because I am bellow some sort of minimum calorie intake requirement?

Has your overall activity level changed in the last few weeks?

Has anything changed (training, specific foods consumed during the feast, life stress, etc) ?

What are your stats? Height, Weight, body composition,training age, etc?

1500 calories a day is very low indeed. While having these lower days from time to time isn’t a big deal and shouldn’t halt your overall progress, if they become chronic, they absolutely will.

What is your CURRENT primary goal with your training and nutrition?

[quote]Who_Cares wrote:
Oi, Is there a low border of the total calorie intake of “The Pulse Feast” diet? I have been eating like this for the last 150 days with about 2000 calories a day and I lost 10kg., but as I stardet to unintentionally consume less food than I did before last month (say 1500 cal a day), I gained 4kg. How come? Could it be because I am bellow some sort of minimum calorie intake requirement?[/quote]

Coach,

How would you lay out a weeks worth of training using the giant cluster method?

[quote]TrainForPain wrote:

[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]So What wrote:

[quote]Pat_Butcher wrote:

[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

For some reason, isometrics really do seem to take a lot out of the CNS[/quote]

after reading this, it’s starting to make A LOT of sense… i’ve been doing 1-2 second holds on all my pulling movements ( hitting back 2x a week) and noticed more “lesser-quality” sessions

[/quote]

Holds arent really comparable to true isometrics in my experience [/quote]

Exactly, and you SHOULD hold the contracted position when working the back for better recruitment.
[/quote]

hmm maybe coincidence then… idk?[/quote]

Could be just hitting back twice a week? Is that more frequent than normal for you?[/quote]

nope hit everything twice a week (technically closer to every 8 days)

[quote]synergy93 wrote:
1500 calories a day is very low indeed. While having these lower days from time to time isn’t a big deal and shouldn’t halt your overall progress, if they become chronic, they absolutely will.
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I don’t train as much and as hard as I used to (mostly due to lazyness), so I’d think that the body wouldn’t need as much calories as it did back when I did train hard.

“Has your overall activity level changed in the last few weeks?”
Yes, since day 80 or so, but me gaining weight started ocurring somewhere around day 120. Before day 120 I was still losing weight, showed the first line of the abs.

“Has anything changed (training, specific foods consumed during the feast, life stress, etc) ?”
Training-wise changes from two lines above. Foods are the same, just less. Life aside from training and dieting is great.

“What are your stats? Height, Weight, body composition,training age, etc?”
I’m 18, training for 3 years. 78kg., 165cm.
16.5cm. wrist to 40cm. biceps. 25cm. ankle to 65cm. legs. 85cm. waist, 110cm. chest (relaxed, no air).
Deadlift - 1x175kg., squat - 1x135kg., bench press - 1x110kg.

“What is your CURRENT primary goal with your training and nutrition?”
Less fat.

edit: Sometimes it’s hard to have enough cash for food (animal protein and almost all “good” fat products here are the most expensive foods there is on the market). I try to keep the carbs low (as in quanity and glycemic index), but sometimes I simply must eat whatever cheap junk there is just to keep the calories above some absurdly low amounts. I chose this type of diet because of the freedom it gives you, the non-consumer style and the fact that staying hungri to me is the easiest thing ever.

I have a question regarding the assistance work in the powerbuilding program that you posted CT.

We are suppose to do 4-6 sets of 4-6 reps; are these ramped? And for back/traps/bis we are suppose to do higher reps; how many sets do you recommend?

Hi coach,
I’m a short biceps guy (2’5 cm. between end of bi’s and the elbow flexor). I know this is because of my genetics and has no solution, …but which would be the best approach in my bi/tri training for a better aestetics?
Thanks in advance!

Hi Christian,

I noticed that the HPM original template uses concentrated loading but from the livespill and many of your comments, it seems that you’ve used a push/pull/legs split where bodyparts were hit 2x a week (especially for your bodybuilding clients). Exception being for body part specialization where you used 3 days for one body part and then not train them rest of the week.

I was wondering if you could clarify which method (concentrated loading, pressing up to 6 times a week vs more traditional “push/pull split”) is optimal for hypertrophy and should be used most of the time?

Thank you.

I might have posted this question somewhere else in error so forgive me.

Any way my question is CT,

I have been reading the article you wrote called “The Gironda System” which I liked a lot as I hate doing cardio

You mentioned that Gironada’s 10x10 was a specialization routine as it is too much for every body part. You also mentioned that you cut back all other body parts in half (5x10).

How frequent would you do the 10x10 for the targeted bodypart. Doing it just once per week does not seem like enough stimulation. I know Gironda was strongly in favour of hitting each bodypart x2 per week.

Can anyone tell me what the peri-workout nutrition protocol is for an eccentric-less workout? I’ve tried doing a search but didn’t come up with anything.

Thanks.

CT, I read an article earlier today you wrote back in 05, forgot the name but it was about specialization. You mentioned that during the specialization your muscles won’t grow, it’s a few weeks after ending specailization that they’ll grow from supercompensation I believe. I’ve been practicing your methods and training very frequently, my legs are not growing as fast as I would like and my strength has not been increasing much either.Upper body pressing is progressing though. I am using the anaconda protocol 2. Do you think in my situation there is a time where it can be beneficial to decrease frequency and increase the intensity/cns drain to see some gains? Or do you have any other recommendations? Right now my back squat 1rm is 275 which is just barely past my bench press 1 rm. I know that should’t be that way.

CT, I have a couple questions for you.

  1. I know you stay clear of certain medical related question so I’ll understand if you stay away from this. I have a disc that is slightly protruding in my lowest vertebrate. My doctor told me to stop squatting at least for now and possibly never again. My back pain has been going off-and-on for years and the protrusion just happened recently out-of-the-blue, not blaming squats for the problem. I want to keep working on my legs in your HP Mass protocol, do you think I can supplement squats with leg press? I know it’s not even remotely the same but I need to do something.

Within the same issue, that also restricts some of my assistance work that I do for rear delts, rhomboids, and hamstrings (I like Romanian Deadlifts). At least for now I’m not to be bending over much, so bent over rows are out. What else would you recommend for those three muscle groups?

  1. Within HP Mass is seems that I can’t get explosive with Overhead Shoulder Press when I hit my MTW. Even the workset right before my MTW set isn’t all that explosive. I’m using the percentage of my 3RM that you specified and I’m wondering if that load is just too heavy for me to achieve an explosive movement. Would it be beneficial to drop down to 83% or even 80% of my 3RM?

One quick question:

In your “If You Want to Go Faster, Go SLower” -livespill you emphasized the importance of limit strength to speed development and mentioned overload partials and isometrics. How about heavy near 1RM singles in regular exercises for this purpose? Or heavy grinding triples? Do you use them at all? Could they be included into a complex, if one wanted to work the “mass” end of the power curve? For example:

  1. 1/4 squat, singles or triples (heavy)
  2. Full squat, singles or triples (heavy)
  3. Clean, 3 reps
  4. Jump Squat, 10 reps

Or could one just replace the partial movement with a heavy grinding full range movement?

And just out of curiosity…you mentioned in one of the livespills about complexes, that you were working on a wide variety of sample complexes for different purposes? Is that still a work in progress?

Thank you for your time!

@jaynick77: if you reread the HP mass article, leg press is one of the options in your lower body exercise selection, that with a type of dead lift(besides the squat variations)

[quote]illgixxer wrote:
@jaynick77: if you reread the HP mass article, leg press is one of the options in your lower body exercise selection, that with a type of dead lift(besides the squat variations)[/quote]

Yeah, I did catch that when I went through the article. I guess my question is walking a fine-line and I’m really asking is if it put the same amount of pressure on your spine that having a squat bar does? I’m also curious if I should be deadlifting. Thinking about good deadlifting form, I should be able to because I’m not bending over much. I really hope I can keep deadlifting, that’s far-and-away my favorite exercise.

[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the peri-workout nutrition protocol is for an eccentric-less workout? I’ve tried doing a search but didn’t come up with anything.

Thanks.[/quote]

CT said in one of the livespills that you should basically have as much MAG-10 as you can afford when doing eccentric-less work.

I usually just have 2-3 scoops of MAG-10. Some before and some during eccentric-less work.

He also said that if your doing eccentric-less work right after lifting and using the protocol he recommends in HP mass that you don’t need any extra MAG-10 because it’ll sill be in your system for about an hour after you finish drinking it.

Evening,
Perhaps my question is specific to the individual and there sport/goal…
But should one (who’s goal is strength and muscle) be stronger on a deadstop movement or one involving the stretch reflex? Are my below stats ok or does one need working on?

Full ROM bench: 225.3
Bench from Pin (Approx 2-4 inch) 225.1 205.3

Any feedback is welcomed.
Ta.

Evening Mr. Thibs.

I searched the foum for complexes + recovery. But couldn’t quite find what I was looking for. So a quick question:

Can a simple BB complex be used on say tuesday after a strength workout on monday to spped up recovery?

Similar as to use your Neural Charge workouts. I realised just now that what i just said could be the answer i’m looking for… Tho, from another perspective, Strength training on monday (upper body) and a BB complex for upperbody on tuesday to enhance recovery and stimulate fatloss? Does that sound resonable?

training TBT M, T, F. and doing NC or BB complexes on the “offdays”… is it too much?!

(sorry about the messy post, writing 2 words infront of my thoghts…)

[quote]halfbreed wrote:
Evening Mr. Thibs.

I searched the foum for complexes + recovery. But couldn’t quite find what I was looking for. So a quick question:

Can a simple BB complex be used on say tuesday after a strength workout on monday to spped up recovery?

Similar as to use your Neural Charge workouts. I realised just now that what i just said could be the answer i’m looking for… Tho, from another perspective, Strength training on monday (upper body) and a BB complex for upperbody on tuesday to enhance recovery and stimulate fatloss? Does that sound resonable?

training TBT M, T, F. and doing NC or BB complexes on the “offdays”… is it too much?!

(sorry about the messy post, writing 2 words infront of my thoghts…)[/quote]

Not Thibs but he’s definitely addressed this in a couple different spots that probably didn’t get picked up with your keywords. Basically, train as much as you can without exceeding your ability to recpver, don’t destroy yourself every day. Checkout these articles from CT, Neural Charge, High Performance (HP) Mass, and go to the Training Lab and go to like page 4 where he has earlier videos on Activation Training and some other good bits of info.