[quote]Gaby 2700 wrote:
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
[quote]dayne_lathrop wrote:
hello coach,
i had a question about foundation days. i understand the concept that these muscles respond better to higher density techniques and a higher rep range (6-12), I am just kind of having trouble setting a workout to impliment these specific techniques. here is an example of last weeks foundation day (wondering if this is on the right track):
Lats:
A1.) 90 degree db row
A2.) 45 degree db row
A3.) lat pulldown
no rest between exercises but with up to 90 sec rest between circuits. done 3-4 times for 6-12 reps.
then move on to
Biceps:
B1.) body drag curls
B2.) seated incline db curls
B3.) Preacher curls
same rep, rest, and number of sets as lat circuits
then
Abs:
C1.) Cable Crunches
C2.) hanging leg raises
C3.) plank or iso- side twists with db’s
same rep, rest, and number of sets
any advice on an this example, or just any way to set up an example foundation day would be much appreciated. i know there are tons of different ways to do a foundation workout, i was just wondering if this is an ok example. thanks in advance coach.[/quote]
IMHO the volume of lats work is WAY too low and is not entirely focused on the lats. I don’t like it.
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I was wondering if what I usually do is anyway better:
- for lats (in the pull day) :
I mix pulldowns, low-pulley rows and wide-grip upright rows (I know it’s a shoulder exercise, but it’s a miracle-worker on shoulder width) as a circuit and I add 1-2 exerciseses in one circuit (usually for back) and change those 2 exerciseses in the 2nd circuit (usually for shoulders). I do the 1st circuit 4-5 times and the second 3-5 times.
- for biceps (in the arm day) :
I do a circiut made of standing bb curls (6-8RM), isometric holds (at 90 degrees) = for the 1st station and for the 2nd I do high-pulley seated curls (with 10RM) and one-arm bb preacher curls. I repeat the hole circuit 4-5 times, the last one being max reps. And then it’s off fot some triceps where I do close-grip bench press, ticeps 1-db extensions and v-bar pushdowns as a circuit repeated 4 times.(triceps is also worked on the push day with only one exercise.)
The rest between all circuits is anywhere between 45-90 seconds, so that you take as much as needed to be sure that rep-performance is high, and 10-25 seconds between the exercises of a circuit.
I’d like to hear some opinions on it. [/quote]
I’ll give you an idea of what I do to put things in perpective… this is my last lats/biceps workout:
A. Thib pulldown (lat pulldown using the abs straps to take the arms out of the movement)
4-6 sets of 6-8 reps
B. Atlantis rotary pulldown machine (http://www.atlantis-fit.com/en/p/back/d-412-rotary-pulldown/2/3/98/)
3 sets of double position … each rep = pull from a torso bent forward position, lean back then pull… so each rep is two reps… 6 reps per set
3 sets of low double contraction torso bent over position (pull completely, back up 1/4 of the way, pull again this is one rep) 6-8 reps
3 sets of low double contraction torso leaning back 6-8 reps
3 sets of 3 position… 5 reps torso leaning forward, 5 reps torso leaning back, 5 reps with slight low back cheat
C. Straight-arms pulldown
4-6 sets of 8-10 reps
D. Lat pulldown
4-6 sets of 8-10 reps with 2 seconds hold at the bottom
E1. Preacher curl
3 sets of 8-10 reps
3 sets of high double contraction (lift completely, down 1/4, back up… this is one rep) 6-8 reps
3 sets of low double contraction (lift halfway up, back down, lift completely… this is one rep) 6-8 reps
3 sets of 5-5-5 (5 full reps, 5 top partials, 5 bottom partials)
E2. Blast straps curl
Each set of preacher is followed by a set of blast straps curl for 8-10 reps
F. Preacher curl 1 arm
3 sets of 8-10 reps
3 sets of high double contraction (lift completely, down 1/4, back up… this is one rep) 6-8 reps
3 sets of low double contraction (lift halfway up, back down, lift completely… this is one rep) 6-8 reps
3 sets of 5-5-5 (5 full reps, 5 top partials, 5 bottom partials
All that was done in less than 80 minutes to give you an idea of the pace
AND to give you another idea, here is Kevin and Alex’ last back workout:
A. Thib pulldown
5-6 x 6-8 hold contraction 1-2 seconds
B. Pullover machine
5-6 x 6-8 hold contraction 1-2 seconds
C1. Thib pulldown
4-5 x 6-8
C2. Straight-arms pulldown
4-5 x 8-10
D. Sled straight-arms low position
3 x back and forth
E. Sled straight-aarms high position
3 x back and forth
F Sled rowing
3 x back and forth
BICEPS … AD-LIB DEPENDING ON ALEX’ CAPACITIES