Thibs New Training Questions #3

[quote]cyberwar wrote:
Hi Christian!

Thanks for giving such a detailed awnser! One thing though; my femurs are really long, and despite good mobility back squatting is troublesome no matter how much I try. Is there any barbell or dumbbell substitute that I could do for the max rep set, or should I just stop before I break parallell?

Thanks, I really appreciate your help :slight_smile:

[quote]FRONT SQUAT SESSION

A) No-hands front squat (http://jva.ontariostrongman.ca/FS.htm)
Week 1: Ramping sets of 3 reps
Week 2: Ramping sets of 2 reps
Week 3: Ramping sets of 1 rep

*At 4 weeks switch to regular front squats

Week 4: Ramping sets of 3 reps
Week 5: Ramping sets of 2 reps
Week 6: Ramping sets of 1 rep

B) Jump squat with 30% of the max weight you used for front squats 5 sets of 5

C) Back squat 1 sets of max reps with the max weight you used for front squats

D) Leg extension 1-2 sets of max reps (shoot for anything between 8 and 15)
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Lumberjack squat or DB squats

Thanks coach :slight_smile:

I’ll implement all this starting tomorrow, and I’ll report back after 6 weeks (if I don’t lose gym access during the holidays).

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

B) Jump squat with 30% of the max weight you used for front squats 5 sets of 5
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are the 5x5 front squats followed by the ramping sets (1,2 or 3)?

i assume the weight used would be around 85% of the MFP for the 5x5 as well?

thanks CT

[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

B) Jump squat with 30% of the max weight you used for front squats 5 sets of 5
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are the 5x5 front squats followed by the ramping sets (1,2 or 3)?

i assume the weight used would be around 85% of the MFP for the 5x5 as well?

thanks CT[/quote]

I wasn’t clear… the front squats are ramped up for the prescribed number of reps (3, 2 or 1 depending on the week), there is no set of 5 reps on the front squat.

You perform 5 sets of 5 jumps squats with 30% of the heaviest weight you reached on the front squat.

For example…

Front squat - ramping sets of 3 reps
Set 1. 150lbs x 3
Set 2. 160lbs x 3
Set 3. 170lbs x 3
Set 5. 180lbs x 3
Set 6. 190lbs x 3
Set 7. 200lbs x 3
Set 8. 210lbs x 3 (third rep start to slow down, stop exercise)

Jump squat
5 set of 5 reps with 60-65lbs (30% of 210lbs)

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

B) Jump squat with 30% of the max weight you used for front squats 5 sets of 5
[/quote]

are the 5x5 front squats followed by the ramping sets (1,2 or 3)?

i assume the weight used would be around 85% of the MFP for the 5x5 as well?

thanks CT[/quote]

I wasn’t clear… the front squats are ramped up for the prescribed number of reps (3, 2 or 1 depending on the week), there is no set of 5 reps on the front squat.

You perform 5 sets of 5 jumps squats with 30% of the heaviest weight you reached on the front squat.

For example…

Front squat - ramping sets of 3 reps
Set 1. 150lbs x 3
Set 2. 160lbs x 3
Set 3. 170lbs x 3
Set 5. 180lbs x 3
Set 6. 190lbs x 3
Set 7. 200lbs x 3
Set 8. 210lbs x 3 (third rep start to slow down, stop exercise)

Jump squat
5 set of 5 reps with 60-65lbs (30% of 210lbs)

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ok i get it. thanks for clarifying. much appreciated

[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

B) Jump squat with 30% of the max weight you used for front squats 5 sets of 5
[/quote]

are the 5x5 front squats followed by the ramping sets (1,2 or 3)?

i assume the weight used would be around 85% of the MFP for the 5x5 as well?

thanks CT[/quote]

I wasn’t clear… the front squats are ramped up for the prescribed number of reps (3, 2 or 1 depending on the week), there is no set of 5 reps on the front squat.

You perform 5 sets of 5 jumps squats with 30% of the heaviest weight you reached on the front squat.

For example…

Front squat - ramping sets of 3 reps
Set 1. 150lbs x 3
Set 2. 160lbs x 3
Set 3. 170lbs x 3
Set 5. 180lbs x 3
Set 6. 190lbs x 3
Set 7. 200lbs x 3
Set 8. 210lbs x 3 (third rep start to slow down, stop exercise)

Jump squat
5 set of 5 reps with 60-65lbs (30% of 210lbs)

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ok i get it. thanks for clarifying. much appreciated[/quote]

Not a problem, when I read what I wrote, I was a bit confused myself :wink:

I just want to say that the last couple of post’s that you have put up Thib, are extremely helpful…Pretty much answered every question I had floating around in my brain for the last week…Thanks amigo

Hi CT,

When training legs to increase performance in a sport, such as soccer, are single-leg exercises(eg pistol squats, single leg DL, single leg hypers, lunges, speed skater squats) more beneficial than two-leg exercises or are they both useful?

Also, how would someone incorporate plyometrics into training for increased power, speed etc. Would they be done pre-weight training, post, or on a different day entirely? And what sort of exercises?

I realise that most programs are dependent on the individual, but could you please give a quick example of a general program for someone looking to improve performance for such a sport.

Thanks

[quote]pro.nub wrote:
Hi CT,

When training legs to increase performance in a sport, such as soccer, are single-leg exercises(eg pistol squats, single leg DL, single leg hypers, lunges, speed skater squats) more beneficial than two-leg exercises or are they both useful?[/quote]

The big basic lower body exercises (back squat, front squat, deadlift variations, power cleans) should constitute the bulk of an athletic training program. Single limb work certainly has its place (especially for tall individuals with long legs) but should not replace the big basics.

A friend of mine was a sprinter who based his training on the big basics. When he got in physical therapy studies in college he began to substitute all the big basics with tons of unilateral work, up to the point where he wasn’t performing the big basics at all. Well, at the same time he suffered a DRASTIC drop in performance.

When talking about soccer it is even more true. I trained athletes from 27 different sports and soccer players are among the 3 ‘‘weakest’’ type of athletes that I’ve trained. Guys like that should focus on building a lot of basic strength and power, not major in the minor.

[quote]pro.nub wrote:
Also, how would someone incorporate plyometrics into training for increased power, speed etc. Would they be done pre-weight training, post, or on a different day entirely? And what sort of exercises?[/quote]

  1. Before focusing on plyo work you should focus on getting strong. Power = Force x Velocity. Without the capacity to produce a lot of force you can’t produce a lot of power. So if you are weak, there is no sense in doing a ton of plyo drills.

  2. Plyo are nothing magical. They can give you a quick peak in the capacity to produce power, providing relatively rapid gain over a 3-4 weeks period. But past that time frame they do not provide much more improvements. In fact doing intense plyo (I’m not talking about regular jump training, intense plyo is not the same thing) for more than 4 weeks will likely do more harm than good. So you should only use plyo for 3-4 weeks blocks, once or twice a year, when a rapid increase in power is required (and when you have a good strength base).

  3. Plyos should not be done in a fatigued state. It then becomes dangerous and much less effective.

  4. Plyos should not be tiring. If you feel muscle fatigue after a set of plyo, you did too mant reps. Focus on speed and explosiveness, not fatigue. With plyo you have to drop the ‘‘no pain no gain’’ mentality.

  5. If doing plyo, the best times to do it are either at the beginning of a workout (if the plyo drills are done by themselves) or as a contrast (alternating one set of plyo with one set of a strength movement).

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I realise that most programs are dependent on the individual, but could you please give a quick example of a general program for someone looking to improve performance for such a sport.

Thanks [/quote]

It’s not so much about being dependant on the individual. It’s more that I can’t design a program for everyone who asks about it. I would need 30 hours in a day and I have other stuff to do.

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Thib,

Is a muscle power clean a worthy exercise on a pull day ? is it good for building general upper back strength ?

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Hey CT

Is there any merit sitting in a sauna for 5 minutes before you lift weights to elevate growth hormone levels and could it help with joint laxity too?

[quote]nickj_777 wrote:
Hey CT

Is there any merit sitting in a sauna for 5 minutes before you lift weights to elevate growth hormone levels and could it help with joint laxity too?[/quote]

I wrote something about that a while ago. It was in the physique clinique. The short story is yes it can be useful is used for a very short period, but if you stay in even slightly too long, you will elevate cortisol drastically.

When performing the leg press for low reps, do you recommend weight increases in the same fashion used in other exercises? It’s very typical to move up a plate on each side or 25lbs per side, minimum. I just finished my 4th leg press workout of IBB phase 1 and worked up to 10 plates per side for 3 and 8 plates for 16 reps. Got any suggestions for how I should treat the increases for the single-leg press in phase 2?

Thanks,
J

[quote]twisner wrote:
He wrote “Training for Easy-Hard Gainers” parts 1 and 2, seems sort of like what you’re looking for. Its based on heavy rest-paused sets on big compound lifts, and heavy post-fatigue supersets. Almost in line with what he’s advocating now with the IBB thing. COMMUNITY - T NATION - The World's Trusted Community for Elite Fitness
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I have read those articles, but the description of easy-hard gainers doesn’t fit me, e.g., no thyroid problems or muscle definition.

Haven’t found that example yet, so need to look around some more.

Thibs, would you ever prescribe a close grip incline bench for triceps development?

[quote]SvenEatWorld wrote:
Thibs, would you ever prescribe a close grip incline bench for triceps development?[/quote]

Yes, quite often in fact.

Question in density zone length, ie. Canadian Bear Program
Currently doing 20min. zones on 2 separate days for snatch and clean & push press/jerk. Some days I do prescribed weight and other days I do MTR.
Is there any specific benefits to doing shorter zones versus these 20min. zones?

I know you hate calf questions but I need to ask, my calves have always been good but my left calf just isn’t as good as my right, doesnt seem to insert the way my right one does. I honestly have seen this the most after I started driving and especially if I drive a lot cuz my right foot accumulates tons of mini reps between accelerating and breaking, any tips, I will try to accumulate more reps throughout the day with my left calf but doubt it’ll make it appear to insert the way my right calf does

Thanks for everything

Christian, question about mesocycle’s duration

reading books and articles, I’ve found different opinions about the length of a (volume or intensity) training block, witch one do you thing is more correct, or a better approach?

A) beginners can have short blocks (e.g 2 weeks) because the develop faster, while advanced trainees must have longer blocks (e.g 8 weeks), because they develop slower, and they need to be exposed more time to a training stimulus to make significant adoptions.

B) Beginners can make long blocks because they do not plateau easily, while advanced trainees need to program shorts blocks (as 2 weeks or so) because they are close to their potential, and they plateau easily.

Thank you.

When you first experimented with the IBB/Perfect Rep stuff did you ever have an extremely fast heart rate towards the end of your workout and postworkout?

i was wondering because i feel like i really applied the perfect rep today and my heart rate is through the roof and have been trying to figure out what its from.