Thib Q&A no.6

Training
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[quote]RyFry wrote:

[quote]LilyGuns wrote:
33 YRS OLD / MALE / 5’10" / 245LBS PROBABLY 20% BF OR MORE :frowning:

christian,the reason im even in this forum was your carb cycling codex i found on google while back and wa svery impressed. Hoowever nailing my diet has been a mf’er without help (paid help $$) so i would liek to do this on my own so to speak,but with forum help and guidance this time. where do i begin?I feel stuck man. i have all the pieces of the puzzle(i think) but diet…and id like to consider myself above average in knowledge but at the same time when it comes to “me” i get brain farts…here’s what i eat

am : 8 egg whites/ 1/2 cup oats w/tbsp natural pb / 2 slices ezekiel bread

#2: 6oz (cooked) chicken or ground turkey / 1/2 cup brown rice / 1 cup broccoli

#3: 6oz (cooked) chicken or ground turkey / 4 oz sweet potato/ 1 cup broccoli
pw shake : 2 scoops whey -also peptides
post workout: 8oz chicken /turkey or 10oz fish / 2-4 cups various greens / 6oz sweet potato if i train

2 DIET mountain dews a day( i know :frowning: )
2OZ ALMONDS

gallon and half water

also doing a pct…

vitamins 2,000mg tribulus a day / mulkti / 2,000 vit c / 1,200mg fish oils

i train 4 days a week right now. i honestly jsut want to get lean as shit and worry about the rest later. lean,lean,lean…HELP![/quote]

wtf are you on pct for? you need more fish oil 6-12g i know it sounds like alot. you have pretty good nutrition but if your trying to get lean as shit you have to take your carbs down. take them off little by little until your eating only broccoli or cauli flower for pure carb sources. you can throw in 2 cheat meals or so 1 mid week and 1 at the end depending on how you respond. train heavy to keep your muscle and do cardio in the mornings. you gotta look some stuff up yourself man.

edit: what are you complaining about man you look great in your photos you could trim up a bit at get down to a lower body fat but you are not 20% you look more like 12[/quote]

AS FAR AS LOOKING IT UOP MYSELF,I HAVE AND I GUESS LATE NIGHT TYPING IS A BVAD IDEA BECAUSE IM NOT VERY CLEAR. #1 those pics first of all are from competition preps. #2 my carbs are pretty fucking low bro…add it up besides breakfast i dont even brake 200grams.And you you dont jsut start dumping carbs immediately at week #1 in a diet when you’re this low already. It’s info like that - that has once great bodies looking like string beans on stage and i for one wont allow it in my presence. This question was prinmarily aimed at christian because as i stated earlier he’s the f’ing man with this and i was looking for some "professional " insight fro msomeone at an elite level that i admire.

As for PCT if you must know the past year and a half went like this:

jan-may 2010 : 16+ weeks “on” / hcg/nolva/clomid pct for 4 weeks

june-august 2010 “on” no pct

dec 2010-april 2011 “on” no pct. bad crash. ?“shutdown” since,no libido,half-staff woods etc…

WHAT I USED-

TEST: each cycle had a base of test first two cycles @ 600-800mg week cyp, 3rd @ 200mg week therapeutic dose(if you will)

TREN:LAST 6 WEEKS OF EACH CYCLE EXCEPT 1ST ONE WAS 10 WEEKS 75 eod acetate

ANAVAR: LAST CYCLE ONLY 100MG A DAY

CLENBUTEROL: EACH CYCLE ALTERNATED WITH FAT-BURNERS 2 DAYS/2DAYS FOR 4-6 WEEKS

MASTERON: LAST CYCLE ONLY 400MG WEEK

DECA: FIRST 2 CYCLES 500MG WEEK - FIRST 8 WEEKS

EQUIPOISE LAST CYCLE 600MG WEEK

BEEN “OFF” 4 MONTHS - NO PCT. STRUGGLING,FINALLY GOT NOLVA,CLOMID,PEPTIDES - NO HCG YET. AND OVERALL I FEEL THE SAME DESPITE THE GOOD PHYSICAL CHANGES(MUSCLE) but overrall i just want to get lean and fuck my girl. that too much to ask?

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I didn’t say dump I just said to slowly cut down on it. No offense you sounded like a newb and doesnt want to do the work himself, but I looked at your pictures then thought no this guy just needs a bit of help. Sorry for sounding like a dick, didnt mean to. For getting cut i still think 200g is pretty high, but then again who am i. It is your unalienable right to ram girl man.

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[quote]RyFry wrote:
I didn’t say dump I just said to slowly cut down on it. No offense you sounded like a newb and doesnt want to do the work himself, but I looked at your pictures then thought no this guy just needs a bit of help. Sorry for sounding like a dick, didnt mean to. For getting cut i still think 200g is pretty high, but then again who am i. It is your unalienable right to ram girl man.[/quote]

word bro.we’re cool,sorry if i was dick too. “hug” lol

i gotta run but we’ll get into it later

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no biggie bro

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[quote]saleb wrote:
Not a question or anything like that, I just want to thanks to Christian Thibaudeau for EVERYTHING he posted on T-Nation, because only thanks to him I did hundred steps forward, while last three years I went just backwards.

I made this video simply with love and passion for training. I am not an athlete. Just student of psychology.

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Awesome video

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[quote]mketodd wrote:

[quote]saleb wrote:
Not a question or anything like that, I just want to thanks to Christian Thibaudeau for EVERYTHING he posted on T-Nation, because only thanks to him I did hundred steps forward, while last three years I went just backwards.

I made this video simply with love and passion for training. I am not an athlete. Just student of psychology.

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Awesome video
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Agreed. Does anyone know what sort of training program this is or where I could find one to achieve the goals of better mobility, conditioning, power and overall performance?

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[quote]Zooguido wrote:

[quote]mketodd wrote:

[quote]saleb wrote:
Not a question or anything like that, I just want to thanks to Christian Thibaudeau for EVERYTHING he posted on T-Nation, because only thanks to him I did hundred steps forward, while last three years I went just backwards.

I made this video simply with love and passion for training. I am not an athlete. Just student of psychology.

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Awesome video
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Agreed. Does anyone know what sort of training program this is or where I could find one to achieve the goals of better mobility, conditioning, power and overall performance?[/quote]

Just do one of ct’s programs. He says that his main goal is “functional mass” You can add little things like neural charge here and there and work do eccentric less training on gpp/off days.

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[quote]Zooguido wrote:

[quote]mketodd wrote:

[quote]saleb wrote:
Not a question or anything like that, I just want to thanks to Christian Thibaudeau for EVERYTHING he posted on T-Nation, because only thanks to him I did hundred steps forward, while last three years I went just backwards.

I made this video simply with love and passion for training. I am not an athlete. Just student of psychology.

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Awesome video
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Agreed. Does anyone know what sort of training program this is or where I could find one to achieve the goals of better mobility, conditioning, power and overall performance?[/quote]

I’d say you want the Star / Superhero Complex program then.

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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, guys.

Much appreciated.

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CT, next week is the 6th week of my first cycle on star complexes and I am going to take deload week after it. I have been doing 4 rounds of each complex with some assistance (pull-ups, long head triceps, and postural muscles) normally for the last 5 weeks. I have also added active rest to every complex for the past 2 weeks. My question is should I increase the amount of rounds I have been doing to create an overreaching effect then deload or keep things how I have been then deload as prescribed in your recharge/deload spill? Thanks Breinhardt

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Disregard my post. Question answered! Thank you CT!

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[quote]breinhardt wrote:
CT, next week is the 6th week of my first cycle on star complexes and I am going to take deload week after it. I have been doing 4 rounds of each complex with some assistance (pull-ups, long head triceps, and postural muscles) normally for the last 5 weeks. I have also added active rest to every complex for the past 2 weeks. My question is should I increase the amount of rounds I have been doing to create an overreaching effect then deload or keep things how I have been then deload as prescribed in your recharge/deload spill? Thanks Breinhardt[/quote]

CT doesn’t really respond to his forum anymore but I’m on my 15th straight week. If your body feels like you need a deload then do it, else keep going. I’m just now at the point where I’m considering a deload after the 6th week of this phase.

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Christian,
One quick question and one open ended question:

  1. If you did your OVT program today would you do the 5 x 5 ramping or would you still do them the way that you described in your article?

  2. -open ended- Is there anything else that you would change dramatically about OVT now to make it seem more in line with your current training phylosophy?

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Mr. Thibaudeau how would you go about training to get as strong as possible on strict overhead press and pushpress? Lets say you have unlimited access to a gym. 1, 2, 3 times a day no problem. I am not a bodybuilder I just want to press a lot.

I benchpress 165kg with a pause, competition style but only press 90kgs full ROM. Pushpress is 110kg. I squat 227,5kg, frontsquat 182,5kg and deadlift 270kgs all raw so total body strength is not the bottleneck I think.

Here is a video of press and pushpress form. The “strictness”, full ROM and paused reps, is important to me.

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Hi Coach Thibaudeau!

I’ve just started the IBB program with the perfect rep technique and I’m totally excited!
This perfect rep is the 1st way to explain how both heavy weight low - rep and light weight - high rep work good for hypertrophy as long as the load is lifted with explosiveness!
I think it credits Dante Trudel’s doggcrapp training if you explode the weight everytime with the rest pause technique and brisk rest between sets.

I love the “Nervous system is the boss” theory! However I’ve read somewhere through my research that after some time off, the strength lost was from the nervous activation which is no more at the top.

So here comes my questions:

  1. If it’s true, after how much time off does it occur?
  2. When we had some time off and lost strength, when returning to training is it possible to maximize hypertrophy while using the perfect rep? Because the stimulus isn’t as violent and as it was when the strength was at its max.

I don’t know if my questions are very clear, otherwise I’ll ask you in French, which is my first language.

Thanks in advance.

Stan.

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CT

I am thinking about starting a 3 way split over 4 days like below on rotation.

Monday: Chest Shoulder and Tris
Tuesday; Back, traps and bis
Wednesday; Off
Thursday;Legs
Friday: Chest, Shoulders and Tris

My question is what would my volume be if I followed this type of split. If people follow an upper lower split they are usually told to split the weekly total in half. So if you did 12 weekly sets per body part, you would cut back to 6 sets.

Would I do the same for this type of rotation as they are getting a bit longer than the upper lower set up? Do you recommend this type of split?

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Sorry if you’ve answered this a few times (searched the forums and nothing came up), but can an 18 year old take Alpha Male and Rez-V? I want to try these out, but want to make sure they are safe for someone my age. I’d rather keep my current test levels than potentially compromise them in the future by using these supplements. Thanks

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CT,

I plan on starting a carb cycling program and was wondering what your thoughts were on the following article you wrote:

The Carb Cycling Codex

Obviously you agree with what was said, but this was written six years ago. Do you still believe that following this program would be efficient, or should specific tweaks be made now that time has passed and you may have additional knowledge?

Thanks.

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Any suggestion on what a weekly schedule / split would look like, if built around “The Power Look” program? I have tried the workout a few times and love it, but find that I have a hard time fitting in both deadlifts and squats in, as my lower back is usually blasted after doing all the high pulls and cleans.

I like to squat and deadlift on seperate days, but don’t know that I can do that while also performing the exercises outline in The Power Look.

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CT, Love your programs and insight on training. In a world where I am the only one of my peers who lifts regularly, this site and what you (and the others) definitely keeps me motivated.

With that said, I have been following HPMass, on 4th week now, however I am thinking i may be doing the eccentric lifts incorrectly. In the article it says to perform eccentric-less training for legs after both upper and lower press days. What confuses me is that I also read about you discussing eccentric-less training for the chest. Which i did not see in the videos.

Currently I am doing;

Lower Press moves followed by-- squat down pulls(sled), pull thru (sled), push (sled), and frankenstein walk (sled)

Upper Press moves followed by – SAME AS ABOVE -

NC Workouts followed by lat/bis and then - rear delt sled, sled rows, sled curls

Am I doing this correct or should I be performing alternative eccentric-less work on upper days? I have gone over all of the articles numerous times and learn something new every day i swear! I just can’t seem to find an answer to this…

Thanks a lot and keep up the good work!