Thib Gets Ripped

Heys CT,
I’ve got some questions about your diet.

  1. I’ve read that Poliquin states peanuts are full of phytoestrogens. What’s your take on this since you abviously are a fan of peanut butter.

  2. Why do you use Peanut butter (or any nut butter) in your shakes instead of just a plain oil from nuts. I’m just asking because the nut butters have carbs were oils don’t… thinking in terms of ketosis.

  3. I understand that you cortisol levels are at there highest in the morning and you are also at one of your most insulin sensitive states, so it makes sense that you can shock you system with the whey and it’s subsequent insulin response. But i thought the general dogma was to ingest low glycemic to stabalize the blood sugar for the day. My question is why did you choose whey for breakfast. Is this for everyone, or depends on goals, training stage,.ect.

[quote]Millerizer130 wrote:
Coach

I was looking at your newer routine posted earlier this month with the staggered ab sets. I noticed you have included the “garhammer raise” but I can not find images (google search) and I also looked on Exrx.net under the abdominal exercises.

Could you describe this movement…or perhaps post a link.

Thank you for your time[/quote]

My article ‘‘Staggered abs training’’ explains the movement.

[quote]kingarthr4 wrote:
Heys CT,
I’ve got some questions about your diet.

  1. I’ve read that Poliquin states peanuts are full of phytoestrogens. What’s your take on this since you abviously are a fan of peanut butter.
    [/quote]

I’m not a fan of anything. I find it to be filling and helpful mentally on a diet and I strongly doubt that 1-2 tbsp of all-natural peanut butter will cause any estrogen problems.

PLUS I have my own theory about phytoestrogens. I do believe that a small amount of it is actually a good thing. It is a much weaker for of estrogen in the human body. So when it locks up on the estrogen receptor it takes up the place of ‘‘real’’ estrogen, but since it has less effect than ‘‘real’’ estrogen it can actually lead to less estrogenic effects in the body.

[quote]kingarthr4 wrote:
2. Why do you use Peanut butter (or any nut butter) in your shakes instead of just a plain oil from nuts. I’m just asking because the nut butters have carbs were oils don’t… thinking in terms of ketosis.[/quote]

Taste and texture. Plus, you can have at least 50g of carbs/day and induce ketosis provided that you are active and that the carbs are not consume in large amounts at any given time, that they are of a low-glycemic type and not consumed alone.

[quote]kingarthr4 wrote:
3. I understand that you cortisol levels are at there highest in the morning and you are also at one of your most insulin sensitive states, so it makes sense that you can shock you system with the whey and it’s subsequent insulin response. But i thought the general dogma was to ingest low glycemic to stabalize the blood sugar for the day. My question is why did you choose whey for breakfast. Is this for everyone, or depends on goals, training stage,.ect. [/quote]

Do you REALLY think that you’ll have problems stabilizing blood glucose levels if you consume less than 50g of carbs per day. COMMON you are really fishing here!!!

PLUS, the priority at breakfast is to stop the fast by giving anabolic nutrients to your body ASAP.

Thib, how do you know that when you consume Flameout it wont b used as energy since your taking it in the first meal. Or as long as you eat first its ok?

[quote]crod266 wrote:
Thib, how do you know that when you consume Flameout it wont b used as energy since your taking it in the first meal. Or as long as you eat first its ok?[/quote]

I consume a total of 45g of fish oil per day and 120g of fat per day. Once ketosis is established it doesn’t really matter when I take it.

PLUS, when you wake up there is already a lot of free fatty acids in the blood stream to be used for fuel (during the night almost 100% of your energy comes from fat oxidation).

ALSO I do not train when I wake up, I normally have two meals. Since I work on my computer and plan programs in the morning, it’s not like I have a huge caloric expenditure.

FURTHERMORE fat requires some time to be absorbed, so it’s not like the Flameout will all of a sudden be soaked in for fuel as soon as you take it.

Hello Mr. Thibaudeau,

I just wanted to express my gratitude and give you a heartfelt thank you. I realize that you here those simple words - “Thanks” and “Thank you” - quite often, but I felt that not only me, but others are truly grateful. You’ve told us how to eat, how to design a program, when to train, how to grow, and how to lean out. And you do this all willingly. I find it amazing that you do this and post all of this information online to everyone for free. You, and all of the other T-Nation contributors, are a blessing. I hope that this at least puts a smile on your face, because that’s all I have to offer.

Thank you once again,
Jon aka “Trenchant”

Coach Thib,

You said about a week ago that you were changing to a heavy lifting program (which you posted) and adding about 500kcal per day.

Where did you add the 500kcal to your original diet?

[quote]Brendan Ryan wrote:
Coach Thib,

You said about a week ago that you were changing to a heavy lifting program (which you posted) and adding about 500kcal per day.

Where did you add the 500kcal to your original diet?[/quote]

15g of fish oil, 50g of BCAAs, 25g of protein (one more shake) 7-10g of extra virgin olive oil (in the shake).

BTW, a while ago I noticed that you gave away for free my ‘‘Dr.Jekyl’’ (pdf version) for free on www.intensemuscle.com. Lucky for you that you took it down; I had contacted my attorney about that.

Coach Thibaudeau,

I have a few questions specifically related to your diet, albeit not exactly your current phase, if you do not mind.

Since you already know how your body responds to different caloric and macronutrient intakes, how long is your transition phase from cutting to mass gaining? What does it look like?

Do you still attempt to decrease your bodyfat set-point, however marginally, by lengthening the transition from cutting to mass gaining, or do you feel that further decreases are not likely due to the high degree of leanness you have maintained for so long already?

As I understand it, your mass gaining phase varies by approximately 50g of carbs (post-workout meal) between training and non-training days. Would there be any advantage to slightly increasing carbs 5-10g per meal on training days and reducing carbs 5-10g per meal on off days (same weekly amount of calories and carbs with subtle daily fluctuation in favor of training days, but not cycling high and mod per se) OR any advantage to increasing carbs slightly post-workout and reducing the amount of carbs spaced through the remaining meals of day (50g carbs post-workout seems conservative, but is also very intriguing)?

How long can you now, as a result of your lower bodyfat set-point, maintain your mass gaining phase carb intake without your bodyfat increasing significantly?

Why do you now favor a mixed diet vs. carb cycling in your mass gaining phase, especially since you choose to be so lean year-round? How do you respond to one vs. the other in terms of total muscle gained and/or muscle/fat gain ratio?

Thank you for your time!

Too many questions too little time for the scope of a simple Q&A forum.

[quote]PrecisionPhysique wrote:
Coach Thibaudeau,

I have a few questions specifically related to your diet, albeit not exactly your current phase, if you do not mind.

Since you already know how your body responds to different caloric and macronutrient intakes, how long is your transition phase from cutting to mass gaining? What does it look like?

Do you still attempt to decrease your bodyfat set-point, however marginally, by lengthening the transition from cutting to mass gaining, or do you feel that further decreases are not likely due to the high degree of leanness you have maintained for so long already?

As I understand it, your mass gaining phase varies by approximately 50g of carbs (post-workout meal) between training and non-training days. Would there be any advantage to slightly increasing carbs 5-10g per meal on training days and reducing carbs 5-10g per meal on off days (same weekly amount of calories and carbs with subtle daily fluctuation in favor of training days, but not cycling high and mod per se) OR any advantage to increasing carbs slightly post-workout and reducing the amount of carbs spaced through the remaining meals of day (50g carbs post-workout seems conservative, but is also very intriguing)?

How long can you now, as a result of your lower bodyfat set-point, maintain your mass gaining phase carb intake without your bodyfat increasing significantly?

Why do you now favor a mixed diet vs. carb cycling in your mass gaining phase, especially since you choose to be so lean year-round? How do you respond to one vs. the other in terms of total muscle gained and/or muscle/fat gain ratio?

Thank you for your time!
[/quote]

Thibs,

Do you drink alcohol and do you ever drink whilst on a gettin ripped diet? Do you ever get wasted or just stick to a few beers?

[quote]scotthenry525 wrote:
Thibs,

Do you drink alcohol and do you ever drink whilst on a gettin ripped diet? Do you ever get wasted or just stick to a few beers?[/quote]

I have not had one drink of alcohol since 2001 and that was when the HS football team I coached won the provincial championships.

I might have a glass of wine on the day of my wedding on august 9th.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Too many questions too little time for the scope of a simple Q&A forum.[/quote]

I completely understand. Thank you anyway. I appreciate all of your hard work here on T-Nation. Best of luck getting ripped!

Coach I was just wondering how the hungarian oak leg blast workout was working for you?

Thib, I’m planning to start my own ketogenic diet along the lines of your plan soon. I can’t train as close to my meal as you said you do. Accordingly, I was planning to use your peri-workout supplementation outlined in your supplemenation for newbies article [for the 15+% bodyfat using whey and not Surge even though I’m a good deal leaner than that].

I’ve used this approach with BCAAs, whey, taurine, glutamine, glycine, etc…previously on low-carb diets. But I’ve never done a keto diet. Would it still be a good approach on this keto diet? I can’t imagine why not but I thought I’d run it by you and see what you thought.

[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Thib, I’m planning to start my own ketogenic diet along the lines of your plan soon. I can’t train as close to my meal as you said you do. Accordingly, I was planning to use your peri-workout supplementation outlined in your supplemenation for newbies article [for the 15+% bodyfat using whey and not Surge even though I’m a good deal leaner than that]. I’ve used this approach with BCAAs, whey, taurine, glutamine, glycine, etc…previously on low-carb diets. But I’ve never done a keto diet. Would it still be a good approach on this keto diet? I can’t imagine why not but I thought I’d run it by you and see what you thought.[/quote]

Yes, go ahead with it. But next time, post this in ‘‘The Thib Zone’’

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Thib, I’m planning to start my own ketogenic diet along the lines of your plan soon. I can’t train as close to my meal as you said you do. Accordingly, I was planning to use your peri-workout supplementation outlined in your supplemenation for newbies article [for the 15+% bodyfat using whey and not Surge even though I’m a good deal leaner than that]. I’ve used this approach with BCAAs, whey, taurine, glutamine, glycine, etc…previously on low-carb diets. But I’ve never done a keto diet. Would it still be a good approach on this keto diet? I can’t imagine why not but I thought I’d run it by you and see what you thought.

Yes, go ahead with it. But next time, post this in ‘‘The Thib Zone’’[/quote]

Ok. Thanks. Sorry about the posting placement.

Hey Thib, I hope everything is on track. I was wondering, if you got hungry would you just suck it up and wait for your next meal or would you eat some protein or something else.

[quote]daffyduck wrote:
Hey Thib, I hope everything is on track. I was wondering, if you got hungry would you just suck it up and wait for your next meal or would you eat some protein or something else.[/quote]

Currently, since I’m pleased with my level of body fat I would simply eat some protein. If I were trying to lose more fat I’d suck it up.

hey Thib I see your going on vacation, how do you personally keep your diet intact when going on vacation because I now making eggs in the morning and putting things in a blender is kinda hard in a hotel? Do you change it when you go away?