[quote]crod266 wrote:
hey thib I see your going on vacation, how do you personally keep your diet intact when going on vacation because I now making eggs in the morning and putting things in a blender is kinda hard in a hotel? Do you change it when you go away?[/quote]
The resort I’m going to is a 5 star hotel with a small equipped kitchen in every room, and everything is included (meals). They have a wide variety of food, all that I need really. I am also bringing a tub of Low-Carb Metabolic Drive and Flameout so it will be easy to stick to my diet.
BTW, it’s a VACATION … while I’m not one to cheat, if I eat a piece of steak instead of 6 eggs it will do.
In other words, I’ll stick to a high protein, moderate fat, low carb diet. But if I overshoot or undershoot my calories by 300 I wont kill myself.
[quote]crod266 wrote:
hmm makes sense, its a good thing its a hotel like that because I know that if its a hotel like holiday inn its a bit harder[/quote]
Not really. I would just bring my own blender and Foreman grill.
Do you stay away from things like cinnamon, splenda, and gum to make sure you stay in ketosis?
Edit: Also, I’m considering dropping my vegetables because I eat alot of broccoli,cauliflower and green beans. I’d like to drop them back so I can get to under 30g of carbs and thus achieve ketosis. However, I can’t afford Superfood at the moment? I don’t imagine a few weeks like this will hurt my health long term…but is there anything to be concerned about assuming my plumbing is fine?
[quote]GetSwole wrote:
Do you stay away from things like cinnamon, splenda, and gum to make sure you stay in ketosis?
Edit: Also, I’m considering dropping my vegetables because I eat alot of broccoli,cauliflower and green beans. I’d like to drop them back so I can get to under 30g of carbs and thus achieve ketosis. However, I can’t afford Superfood at the moment? I don’t imagine a few weeks like this will hurt my health long term…but is there anything to be concerned about assuming my plumbing is fine?[/quote]
You MUST stay away from those things if you’re seriously doing a ketogenic diet. I’m sure Thib will tell that when he gets back. Well, not cinnamon. But ‘sugarless’ gum has 2 grams of carbs. Splenda is 4 calories a packet, mostly from dextrose and maltodextrin. The calories from the sucrolose really ARE negligible. But Splenda does have trace amounts of those sugars. You don’t have to completely cut vegetables on this diet.
I’ve started it, basically doing Thib’s template with great results so far. I’m eating SMALL amounts of spinach or lettuce or artichoke. 25 calories of artichoke is 4 grams of carb, all fiber. I’ve made some minor modifications to allow for these bits of fiber and greens. Instead of consuming any peanut better [which has more carbs] I get all my monounsaturated fat from olive, macadamia, and avocado oil. And a bit of avocadoes [which also has some carb but less than peanut butter].
Also, instead of using low-carb Metabolic Drive, which I usually use, I’m using my own custom-made protein powder. Doesn’t taste quite as good, but it has 1g of carbs instead of Metabolic Drive’s 4. You do have to watch. There are hidden carbs everywhere. Even a jumbo egg has .6 carbs. But I haven’t really found it too difficult to stay under 30g even eating SMALL bits of greens and fibrous veggies.
Sorry Thib, for posting all this. Just wanted to give him a heads up on the carbs in gum and splenda and things of that nature before you got back.
[quote]GetSwole wrote:
Do you stay away from things like cinnamon, splenda, and gum to make sure you stay in ketosis?
Edit: Also, I’m considering dropping my vegetables because I eat alot of broccoli,cauliflower and green beans. I’d like to drop them back so I can get to under 30g of carbs and thus achieve ketosis. However, I can’t afford Superfood at the moment? I don’t imagine a few weeks like this will hurt my health long term…but is there anything to be concerned about assuming my plumbing is fine? [/quote]
To be honest there will not be a significant difference between 30-50g of carbs and less than 30g of carbs when talking about establishing ketosis, especially if the added 20g come from fibrous green veggies.
I do not use splenda (don’t really like the taste) and might have up to 3-5 pieces of sugar free gum per day, but only when ketosis is established.
Cinnamon might actually help somewhat by increasing insulin sensitivity. But I wouldn’t use large amounts of it.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
GetSwole wrote:
Do you stay away from things like cinnamon, splenda, and gum to make sure you stay in ketosis?
Edit: Also, I’m considering dropping my vegetables because I eat alot of broccoli,cauliflower and green beans. I’d like to drop them back so I can get to under 30g of carbs and thus achieve ketosis. However, I can’t afford Superfood at the moment? I don’t imagine a few weeks like this will hurt my health long term…but is there anything to be concerned about assuming my plumbing is fine?
To be honest there will not be a significant difference between 30-50g of carbs and less than 30g of carbs when talking about establishing ketosis, especially if the added 20g come from fibrous green veggies.
I do not use splenda (don’t really like the taste) and might have up to 3-5 pieces of sugar free gum per day, but only when ketosis is established.
Cinnamon might actually help somewhat by increasing insulin sensitivity. But I wouldn’t use large amounts of it.[/quote]
Hmm…interesting. Do you find there’s a lot of individual variety? I ate about 50 g of carbs on the Get Shredded diet. But I don’t think I entered ketosis. Results were great, but I felt like ass and the carb cravings were fierce. Since I’ve been doing a plan based on the model you posted in this thread and restricting carbs to less than 30g I feel much better while dieting.
Me too, I really don’t think I enter ketosis when I’m between 40-60g even with 20+ being vegetables.
And do you count your fiber for carbs on a keto diet?
Because I’ve used fiber choice tabs in the past that are 4gcarbs total, 4g fiber per serving and if I added those would be it be necessary to add them to my totals?
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Hmm…interesting. Do you find there’s a lot of individual variety? I ate about 50 g of carbs on the Get Shredded diet. But I don’t think I entered ketosis. Results were great, but I felt like ass and the carb cravings were fierce. Since I’ve been doing a plan based on the model you posted in this thread and restricting carbs to less than 30g I feel much better while dieting.[/quote]
Yes, there is a LOT of differences. The main one being insulin sensitivity. I find that the more insulin sensitive you are, the more carbs you can eat and still stay in ketosis. Since insulin resistance is highly correlated with fatness we could thus say that leaner individuals can eat more carbs and stay/get in ketosis.
Activity levels also count for something. For example, if somebody performs two strength sessions per day, 6 days a week (not necessarily something that I would recommend) he can get away with more carbs since he’ll burn more too.
[quote]GetSwole wrote:
Me too, I really don’t think I enter ketosis when I’m between 40-60g even with 20+ being vegetables.
And do you count your fiber for carbs on a keto diet?
Because I’ve used fiber choice tabs in the past that are 4gcarbs total, 4g fiber per serving and if I added those would be it be necessary to add them to my totals?[/quote]
Honestly, I wouldn’t… or more precisely I would include them in a subcategory just so that you know that they are there. And when you analyze your weekly progress, you can assess whether they are having an impact or not.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Hmm…interesting. Do you find there’s a lot of individual variety? I ate about 50 g of carbs on the Get Shredded diet. But I don’t think I entered ketosis. Results were great, but I felt like ass and the carb cravings were fierce. Since I’ve been doing a plan based on the model you posted in this thread and restricting carbs to less than 30g I feel much better while dieting.
Yes, there is a LOT of differences. The main one being insulin sensitivity. I find that the more insulin sensitive you are, the more carbs you can eat and still stay in ketosis. Since insulin resistance is highly correlated with fatness we could thus say that leaner individuals can eat more carbs and stay/get in ketosis.
Activity levels also count for something. For example, if somebody performs two strength sessions per day, 6 days a week (not necessarily something that I would recommend) he can get away with more carbs since he’ll burn more too.
I hit the gym for the first time since I got back from Cuba (I arrived tuesday night). While there I was able to maintain a decent diet, mainly because I was able to bring a tub of LOW CARBS Metabolic Drive and Metabolic Drive BARS.
I was also able to do ‘some’ training. They had a gym, but let’s just say that it required some imagination to get a decent workout in.
Not to mention that I had to walk around 2-3 miles a day just to get around (pretty big resort). I actually lost fat during the trip as I was much leaner by day 6 than I was at day 1.
I left for Cuba at 221 so I expected to be around 215 when I got back. Turns out that I was 224 yesterday. Probably due to finally being able to relax.
I left for Cuba at 221 so I expected to be around 215 when I got back. Turns out that I was 224 yesterday. Probably due to finally being able to relax.
Anyway, I’m pretty happy about that.[/quote]
That’s a pleasant surprise. What’s the heaviest you’re willing to get? (staying lean of course)
I left for Cuba at 221 so I expected to be around 215 when I got back. Turns out that I was 224 yesterday. Probably due to finally being able to relax.
Anyway, I’m pretty happy about that.
That’s a pleasant surprise. What’s the heaviest you’re willing to get? (staying lean of course)
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I don’t care… weight is just a number. Right now I want to stay at 8% body fat or lower since I still plan on competing in 14 weeks. This is probably the heaviest I’ve been at this degree of leanness (I’m 5’8’'). I once went up to 253 but was 14-15% body fat and felt really bad. If I can reach that same 250 at 8% (which will not happen, but I’m talking hypothetically) I wouldn’t mind.
But my guess is that I might reach 228 since I have to start the contest prep in 2-4 weeks.
I see that you are 5’8". I also am of the short end of the spectrum at 5’7" and was wondering what problems have you faced while being short? Is there a certain body part or parts that you have to bring up and develope more in order to stay proportionate?
I always assumed you just built as much muscle as humanly possible, but I now know that you must remain pleasing to the eyes of judges, so I was just wondering if you had any specific needs you attend to on your own body and preperation?
I cannot tell by your pictures, but do you have wide clavicals? Most of the other short bodybuilders I have seen seem to have wider clavicals (perhaps just accented because of their height). If you do, how do you recommend dealing with them in terms of trap developement (a big problem for me) and back thickness?
Hey CT I was just curious as to why your current diet seems to be higher in protein compared what the traditional keto diet is. I may be wrong but the usual is around 60% fat 35% protein and 5% carbs right. I like your approach better becuase it is hard to consume that much fat from healthy soources, but easier to get more protein. If there is any difference in the 2 styles what is it. Thanks.
[quote]matt_t2004 wrote:
Hey CT I was just curious as to why your current diet seems to be higher in protein compared what the traditional keto diet is. I may be wrong but the usual is around 60% fat 35% protein and 5% carbs right. I like your approach better becuase it is hard to consume that much fat from healthy soources, but easier to get more protein. If there is any difference in the 2 styles what is it. Thanks.[/quote]
Right now my diet has changed somewhat according to a new system I designed. I will eventually write an article, or maybe even a book on it in the future. But I have to accumulate more practical evidence/experience with the system first. So far I have a lot of scientific data validating the system and the results appear to be amazing so far, but I must gain more experience with it first.