Thib Gets Ripped

[quote]undeadlift wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Gymjunkie wrote:
Update of your current stats? Strength levels? Energy levels?

GJ

Everything is A+

Setting any new 1RMs lately?[/quote]

Why all these questions? I’m not training for a powerlifting contest… I’m training to get down to 3-4% body fat. While I do continue to include heavy lifting in my routine, it would be incredibly idiotic to shoot for 1RMs in a depleted and extra lean shape. The risk for injury would be too great.

Since you’ve been doing this-active lifestyle-for so long now do you find it difficult to maintain a high level of enthusiasm for your training or do you view it as something that’s merely perfunctory that you just get in and get done with no real emotion behind it?

[quote]kelleyb wrote:
Since you’ve been doing this-active lifestyle-for so long now do you find it difficult to maintain a high level of enthusiasm for your training or do you view it as something that’s merely perfunctory that you just get in and get done with no real emotion behind it? [/quote]

No. It’s my passion. Heck, sometimes I have to force myself not to go training. If I listened to myself I’d train 2-3 times a day, everyday.

Firstly I’d like to personally thank you for your generosity in sharing so much world class knowledge. It blows me away how much free education you and the other authors provide on this site.

Anyway enough of the niceties. I am interested to know how you periodise your training. Do you macrocycle out your year in advance? or is your schedule to unpredictable? How long are your training phases and why?

Ok i have read every single post in this thread from

“too much protein will kill you”
to
“do you season your turkey”

so ima try make this somewhat interesting :slight_smile:

If i didnt miss anything could i modify your diet for MASS GAIN
but adding 25-30g of carbs per meal (50g post-workout) as you suggested.

This is your WHOLE meal program i hope if i didnt miss anything:

MEAL 1
3 whole omega 3 eggs,
1 scoop Grow! whey,
4 Flameout caps
WORKOUT:
Consume 10g of BCAA pre-workout
10-20g during workout and Vit C (Er 1000mg tablet or what ?)

MEAL 2 (post-workout)
2 scoops whey isolate,
10 caps Biotest BCAA’s
20g glutamine
10-20g glycine
10g creatine

MEAL 3
200g turkey,
1 tablespoon fish oil

MEAL 4
2 scoops Low-Carb Metabolic Drive,
1 tablespoon natural peanut butter

MEAL 5
200g turkey,
1 tablespoon macademia nut oil

MEAL 6 (before bed)
3 whole omega 3 eggs*
1 scoop Low-Carb Metabolic Drive
1 tablespoon all natural peanut butter

  • The eggs are mixed raw in the shake

My supplements (besides those included in the post-workout meal) will be:

  • 3000mg of evening primrose oil (Any place for this maybe morning ?

  • BETA-7 - 3 caps taken 3 times per day

  • Primal greens by Poliquin, once serving per day - Any particular place or just when you fell like dumping em down :slight_smile:

  • Ultra HCL 3.0 by Poliquin with every solid protein meals

  • BEFORE BED: ZMA 1 serving, GABA 5g, Glycine 10g, 5-HTP 200mg, inositol 500mg, vitamin B3 15mg

To add carbs im adding complex i presume to all except the post workout one …

Best of luck with:

A)Marriage and the task of getting Married
B)Running 10-12 Physique Clinics
C)Running your own Place
D)Answering silly questions
E)The Big ass maoris :confused:
F) Your contest
and last but not least being happy !

Cheers man.

Just read thru this entire thread, thanks for all the details (except the underwear part, that I didn’t need to know).
Seriously though, tons of great info.
How high is the snow piled on your front lawn?
db

[quote]dianab wrote:
Just read thru this entire thread, thanks for all the details (except the underwear part, that I didn’t need to know).
Seriously though, tons of great info.
How high is the snow piled on your front lawn?
db[/quote]

Early this week we actually had problems getting out as the snow pilled up in front of the door blocked it.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Gymjunkie wrote:
Update of your current stats? Strength levels? Energy levels?

GJ

Everything is A+

Setting any new 1RMs lately?

Why all these questions? I’m not training for a powerlifting contest… I’m training to get down to 3-4% body fat. While I do continue to include heavy lifting in my routine, it would be incredibly idiotic to shoot for 1RMs in a depleted and extra lean shape. The risk for injury would be too great.[/quote]

Sorry, just curious. After all, you did mention your A+ strength and energy levels. Maybe I should’ve said PRs instead of 1RMs.

[quote]undeadlift wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Gymjunkie wrote:
Update of your current stats? Strength levels? Energy levels?

GJ

Everything is A+

Setting any new 1RMs lately?

Why all these questions? I’m not training for a powerlifting contest… I’m training to get down to 3-4% body fat. While I do continue to include heavy lifting in my routine, it would be incredibly idiotic to shoot for 1RMs in a depleted and extra lean shape. The risk for injury would be too great.

Sorry, just curious. After all, you did mention your A+ strength and energy levels. Maybe I should’ve said PRs instead of 1RMs.[/quote]

I would have given you the exact same answer. Strength is a secondary (if not a tertiary) concern for me right now. I still go as heavy as I can for the number of reps that I’m shooting for and if my strength goes up, great, but what’s important is how I look and how I feel.

Plus, I don’t understand why you guys are so eager to know how much I lift. I mean, I can understand why you’d want to know my diet and training program, since these have info that you can use. But the weights I use are personal and will be of zero use to you unless you have something of a man crush or feel the need to compare yourself to me.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

Plus, I don’t understand why you guys are so eager to know how much I lift. I mean, I can understand why you’d want to know my diet and training program, since these have info that you can use. But the weights I use are personal and will be of zero use to you unless you have something of a man crush or feel the need to compare yourself to me.[/quote]

Coach,
You are a role model. People want to get to where you are. A lot of what you(any person) are about in the gym is strength related. So naturally there is going to be some curiosity as to how much you personally lift. Another goal for them to reach for. Just my opinion.

Thib, are there any recovery meathods that you practice on a daily schedule?

[quote]crod266 wrote:
thib, are there any recovery meathods that you practice on a daily schedule?[/quote]

On a daily basis? No. The body adapts to everything, so using recovery methods every day will lead to a drastic reduction in their efficacy.

I wrote an article called ‘‘7 ways to increase recovery’’ or something like that. Do a search for it.

o yea i remember that article, i read it ages ago. Thanks

I was wondering why it is better to be in ketosis for fat loss. Is it that you use more fat for energy or is it that it is more muscle sparing while dieting. Also what materials helped shape your opinion on ketogenic dieting. I am wanting to learn more about it, and was just wondering what you would recommend? Thanks for the great forum.

[quote]matt_t2004 wrote:
I was wondering why it is better to be in ketosis for fat loss. Is it that you use more fat for energy or is it that it is more muscle sparing while dieting. Also what materials helped shape your opinion on ketogenic dieting. I am wanting to learn more about it, and was just wondering what you would recommend? Thanks for the great forum.[/quote]

You absolutely do not need to be in ketosis to burn a lot of fat. Any low-carbs diet will accomplish that.

The main difference is that once ketosis is established the diet is much easier to follow physiologically because the body, especially the brain, has less carbs cravings and less energetic up-and-downs.

Understand that the brain can only use ketones or glucose/carbs for fuel.

On a low-carbs diet where ketosis is not established there will be moments where the brain will lack glucose. When this happens it will try to fabricate new glucose (neoglucogenesis) via the breakdown of amino acids or by emptying the few glycogen stores you have left.

When this happens you will:

  1. Run low on energy
  2. Suffer from ‘‘brain fog’’, have a hard time focusing
  3. You’ll be irritable and basically feel like shit
  4. You will crave carbs like crazy… the cravings are about as bad as a former smoker who has a nicotine craving.

When you are in a state of ketosis the brain has plenty of fuel to work with (ketones) so the above situation is much less likely to occur.

Now, some peoples WILL get carbs cravings even when in ketosis, but most of the time these cravings are psychological and not physiological.

Coach Thibaudeau -

I’ve got a question about an upcoming competition (hopefully isn’t too idiotic).

I’m currently 5 weeks out from my first ever show. I am as lean as I have ever been but I am nervous that I am not where I need to be. I had my body comp done yesterday and was pretty disappointed with my results. I know that I need to be more concerned with my “look” than the numbers from the calipers or the scale. However, I feel like my skin is still really, for lack of a better term, “thick.” When I pinch the skin on my upper abs, there isn’t any fat, but it still has some girth to it.

Obviously you wouldn’t be able to tell anything without viewing pictures, but my question to you is. Do you do any water depletion further out from your show (i.e. - 5 weeks like I am now)?

I am just curious to see if this will help out with my appearance right now and then in effect help me more on stage?

What do you think?

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
matt_t2004 wrote:
I was wondering why it is better to be in ketosis for fat loss. Is it that you use more fat for energy or is it that it is more muscle sparing while dieting. Also what materials helped shape your opinion on ketogenic dieting. I am wanting to learn more about it, and was just wondering what you would recommend? Thanks for the great forum.

You absolutely do not need to be in ketosis to burn a lot of fat. Any low-carbs diet will accomplish that.

The main difference is that once ketosis is established the diet is much easier to follow physiologically because the body, especially the brain, has less carbs cravings and less energetic up-and-downs.

Understand that the brain can only use ketones or glucose/carbs for fuel.

On a low-carbs diet where ketosis is not established there will be moments where the brain will lack glucose. When this happens it will try to fabricate new glucose (neoglucogenesis) via the breakdown of amino acids or by emptying the few glycogen stores you have left.

When this happens you will:

  1. Run low on energy
  2. Suffer from ‘‘brain fog’’, have a hard time focusing
  3. You’ll be irritable and basically feel like shit
  4. You will crave carbs like crazy… the cravings are about as bad as a former smoker who has a nicotine craving.

When you are in a state of ketosis the brain has plenty of fuel to work with (ketones) so the above situation is much less likely to occur.

Now, some peoples WILL get carbs cravings even when in ketosis, but most of the time these cravings are psychological and not physiological.[/quote]

Gotcha. That clears up things a whole lot. Thanks

I’ll tell you this… most people who think that they are ‘‘retaining water’’ are really ‘‘retaining fat’’.

If you feel a thickness to your skin, it is most likely adipose tissue as water will not ‘‘stick’’ to the skin.

NOW it IS possible that you simply have the illusion of being fat because your muscles are depleted of glycogen (are you on a low-carbs diet?). When that happens the muscle doesn’t push as hard against the skin and you will look less defined and feel smooth to the touch.

But you are right, without seeing you in person there is no way for me to tell. Your best bet is to find an experienced competitor in your area and ask him to assess you.

[quote]wildcatstrength wrote:
Coach Thibaudeau -

I’ve got a question about an upcoming competition (hopefully isn’t too idiotic).

I’m currently 5 weeks out from my first ever show. I am as lean as I have ever been but I am nervous that I am not where I need to be. I had my body comp done yesterday and was pretty disappointed with my results. I know that I need to be more concerned with my “look” than the numbers from the calipers or the scale. However, I feel like my skin is still really, for lack of a better term, “thick.” When I pinch the skin on my upper abs, there isn’t any fat, but it still has some girth to it.

Obviously you wouldn’t be able to tell anything without viewing pictures, but my question to you is. Do you do any water depletion further out from your show (i.e. - 5 weeks like I am now)?

I am just curious to see if this will help out with my appearance right now and then in effect help me more on stage?

What do you think?[/quote]

Hi CT,

Good luck with everything this year. You mentioned earlier you were taking 3000mg of Evening Primrose Oil, how much GLA do you recommend per day? (to compare different % EPO)

Coach

I was looking at your newer routine posted earlier this month with the staggered ab sets. I noticed you have included the “garhammer raise” but I can not find images (google search) and I also looked on Exrx.net under the abdominal exercises.

Could you describe this movement…or perhaps post a link.

Thank you for your time