The Year of the 1000lb Raw Squat

Training Powerlifting
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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]arramzy wrote:

[quote]osu122975 wrote:

[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
How come it always comes down to this, internet judging crap ![/quote]

They’re too busy not lifting. “keyboard lifters”.

When I used to build circle track cars, at the end of a long night we’d sit around w/ a few beers and “bench race”, which means we all talked crap of “my car is faster than your car” even tho we’ve never raced.
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Oh come on guys. You got no right to tell me I’m a ‘keyboard lifter’ who doesn’t lift given that you have no idea what I have done. That really has nothing to do with the fact that the squat was OBJECTIVELY high… No matter who sees it, it is a high squat. As I said, bloody impressive, but still high… No need to do any debating; nothing to debate.[/quote]

I honestly can’t tell on any of the videos I’ve seen. Guys like that with legs that big are really hard to tell. I will say that when he dips to the lowest point it appears that his hips start to move back forward under the bar, which to me indicates the femurs went bellow parallel.[/quote]

I agree. Thin guys w/ smaller legs are easier to tell depth from the front. Good point.

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[quote]osu122975 wrote:
infinite shore - his comments are generally pretty negative and condescending. if it was just one comment i can understand, but guys like him do it quite often and it gets under my skin.

i probably shouldn’t let it bother me…but sometimes it does [/quote]

I understand. But I think he is just busting balls…but I could be wrong

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So the world record RAW Squat is 1014, and the world record RAW deadlift is a pound heavier at 1015!!! Just thought that was funny. lol
Also, he squatted 1014 in the year 2014, thats funny too…or Im just easily amused lol.

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I was there in person. I have a pretty good video from the front row and will upload it later.

I personally think the squat depth was good. RUM uses RAW UNITED judges, one of them on the side (thatr gave him a white) is an ass known for red lighting anything questionable. These refs are also old school and do not care about red lighting some one just because of how good the person is.

That being said. A black singlet, mixed with massive legs, makes it very hard to judge depth from the front, but from the video I took it looks pretty clear to me that his hip crease is under his superior aspect of the patella.

Take that with a grain of salt, but I can definitely say that out of all the performances that weekend Malanichev lived up to his hype.

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[quote]RUHLFAN wrote:
So the world record RAW Squat is 1014, and the world record RAW deadlift is a pound heavier at 1015!!! Just thought that was funny. lol
Also, he squatted 1014 in the year 2014, thats funny too…or Im just easily amused lol. [/quote]

Squat gets much more carryover from belt and wraps. Does anyone even deadlift ever with knee wraps? I’d think the drag would make it next to useless.

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[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

Take that with a grain of salt, but I can definitely say that out of all the performances that weekend Malanichev lived up to his hype.

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Because he didn’t when he got a 2425 total at 308?

Lol, I kind of get what you’re saying though. It’s about damn time he took the squat record he surely deserves away from Wilkerson.

Squats being high/okay doesn’t really matter. The judges passed it and a big part of powerlifting is judgment calls on their part. Worse squats have certainly passed, so I don’t think his depth is anything to lose sleep over.

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[quote]osu122975 wrote:
infinite shore - his comments are generally pretty negative and condescending. if it was just one comment i can understand, but guys like him do it quite often and it gets under my skin.

i probably shouldn’t let it bother me…but sometimes it does [/quote]

Haha, poor Osu. Still haven’t recovered from being called out, eh? Quite rich to call arramzy and I a keyboard warrior, given the lifting credentials.

Anyway, I find it curious that people get all pissy when somebody dares to make the observation that a squat might have been high. There is a big difference between somebody being a dick for no good reason other than to attract attention and piss people off (a “hater”) and making some reasonable, but perhaps uncomfortable, observations. I did the latter and I for one would be happy when his squat was actually according to the book.

ps: What people (typically the “high” squatters) often don’t realize is that squatting to proper depth with serious weight is normally tough to do and takes a lot of hard work and practice. It might look like a minor thing visually but for some it can make or break a squat. In other words, if it wouldn’t be a big deal, more people would hit proper depth in comps.

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I believe the issue is, while you may be right, your still not giving enough credit to the actual feat of strength

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[quote]MattyXL wrote:
I believe the issue is, while you may be right, your still not giving enough credit to the actual feat of strength[/quote]

Anyone with half a brain is impressed by what he does or better has been since he surfaced (it is not that he came out of nowhere). I understand perfectly that not hitting proper depth doesn’t make his incredible performance obsolete. My point is that I don’t feel the need to state the obvious, but rather what hasn’t been pointed out yet.

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[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
I believe the issue is, while you may be right, your still not giving enough credit to the actual feat of strength[/quote]

Anyone with half a brain is impressed by what he does or better has been since he surfaced (it is not that he came out of nowhere). I understand perfectly that not hitting proper depth doesn’t make his incredible performance obsolete. My point is that I don’t feel the need to state the obvious, but rather what hasn’t been pointed out yet.[/quote]

I certainly don’t give a shit as it seems to be your style on these boards…I guess I’m telling you what’s obvious to me that may not be obvious to you

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[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
I believe the issue is, while you may be right, your still not giving enough credit to the actual feat of strength[/quote]

Anyone with half a brain is impressed by what he does or better has been since he surfaced (it is not that he came out of nowhere). I understand perfectly that not hitting proper depth doesn’t make his incredible performance obsolete. My point is that I don’t feel the need to state the obvious, but rather what hasn’t been pointed out yet.[/quote]

I certainly don’t give a shit as it seems to be your style on these boards…I guess I’m telling you what’s obvious to me that may not be obvious to you[/quote]

And I’m very grateful for that.

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Wise ass

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Anyone know where results from rum 7 can be found, I thought it was this past weekend, but I can’t find them. Thanks

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[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]osu122975 wrote:
infinite shore - his comments are generally pretty negative and condescending. if it was just one comment i can understand, but guys like him do it quite often and it gets under my skin.

i probably shouldn’t let it bother me…but sometimes it does [/quote]

Haha, poor Osu. Still haven’t recovered from being called out, eh? Quite rich to call arramzy and I a keyboard warrior, given the lifting credentials.

Anyway, I find it curious that people get all pissy when somebody dares to make the observation that a squat might have been high. There is a big difference between somebody being a dick for no good reason other than to attract attention and piss people off (a “hater”) and making some reasonable, but perhaps uncomfortable, observations. I did the latter and I for one would be happy when his squat was actually according to the book.

ps: What people (typically the “high” squatters) often don’t realize is that squatting to proper depth with serious weight is normally tough to do and takes a lot of hard work and practice. It might look like a minor thing visually but for some it can make or break a squat. In other words, if it wouldn’t be a big deal, more people would hit proper depth in comps.[/quote]

Lifting credentials? What are you talking about? Are you referring to lifting numbers? Funny, you’ve been training 12 years and I’ve only been training 3 years. Our numbers are not that different. You have a bigger pull than me, but that’s it. If you want numbers, go look at my log over on 100% Raw’s website.

Called out how? Maybe you can explain yourself, but given being smart ass and dumb ass run hand in hand - I’m sure you’ll come up w/ something witty knowing how you typically speak of others.

I call you both keyboard lifters because neither of you would have the balls to tell any lifter to their face their squat was garbage and shouldn’t have counted. You hide behind a keyboard and say it. I don’t really have any problem w/ Arramzy, but you’re pretty much a disrespectful asshole who really ought to find a home on the internet forums somewhere else.

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I believe you can judge depth on a squat from the front if obviously high or clearly buried. This was neither. It was also in an organization that has typically enforced the traditional rules of performance (i.e., not the SPF or the highPA). Benefit of the doubt should be that the judges made the right call under those circumstances.

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The crazy thing about Malanichev is how he trains. He just trains only 4 exercises, the 3 powerlifts and weighted situps. He does nothing else apart from running, it obviously works for him.

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[quote]BIG-GEORDIE wrote:
The crazy thing about Malanichev is how he trains. He just trains only 4 exercises, the 3 powerlifts and weighted situps. He does nothing else apart from running, it obviously works for him.[/quote]

Better recovery too.

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[quote]burt128 wrote:
I believe you can judge depth on a squat from the front if obviously high or clearly buried. This was neither. It was also in an organization that has typically enforced the traditional rules of performance (i.e., not the SPF or the highPA). Benefit of the doubt should be that the judges made the right call under those circumstances.[/quote]

Agreed. Feds have a lot to do w/ it and you’re right. RUM generally makes sure everyone is legal depth. Matter of fact, they had a video out not too long ago for all the lifters competing that I saw that showed a good squat and a bad squat from the side so everyone knew how depth was gonna be judged.

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[quote]osu122975 wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]osu122975 wrote:
infinite shore - his comments are generally pretty negative and condescending. if it was just one comment i can understand, but guys like him do it quite often and it gets under my skin.

i probably shouldn’t let it bother me…but sometimes it does [/quote]

Haha, poor Osu. Still haven’t recovered from being called out, eh? Quite rich to call arramzy and I a keyboard warrior, given the lifting credentials.

Anyway, I find it curious that people get all pissy when somebody dares to make the observation that a squat might have been high. There is a big difference between somebody being a dick for no good reason other than to attract attention and piss people off (a “hater”) and making some reasonable, but perhaps uncomfortable, observations. I did the latter and I for one would be happy when his squat was actually according to the book.

ps: What people (typically the “high” squatters) often don’t realize is that squatting to proper depth with serious weight is normally tough to do and takes a lot of hard work and practice. It might look like a minor thing visually but for some it can make or break a squat. In other words, if it wouldn’t be a big deal, more people would hit proper depth in comps.[/quote]

Lifting credentials? What are you talking about? Are you referring to lifting numbers? Funny, you’ve been training 12 years and I’ve only been training 3 years. Our numbers are not that different. You have a bigger pull than me, but that’s it. If you want numbers, go look at my log over on 100% Raw’s website.

Called out how? Maybe you can explain yourself, but given being smart ass and dumb ass run hand in hand - I’m sure you’ll come up w/ something witty knowing how you typically speak of others.

I call you both keyboard lifters because neither of you would have the balls to tell any lifter to their face their squat was garbage and shouldn’t have counted. You hide behind a keyboard and say it. I don’t really have any problem w/ Arramzy, but you’re pretty much a disrespectful asshole who really ought to find a home on the internet forums somewhere else.[/quote]

You go girl. Anyway, you are boring me with your whiny small mind.

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Anybody see the video of 5 PEOPLE wrapping his knees!? Saw it while I was trolling Instagram. Its unreal.