[quote]Game Time wrote:
Trying to defend it as not being “gay” when pictures like this exist![/quote]
All those pics are classic! I dont care, all those guys were and still are fucking awesome.
if you’re big enough to compete as a bodybuilder, you’re a fucking bodybuilder.
if you BUILD your BODY youre a BODY-BUILDER
like X said, if you’ve spent 5-10 years and haven’t BUILT anything you’re not a bodybuilder.
if you have BUILT muscle you are.
i don’t care if some guy who doesn’t even bodybuild agrees with it or not.
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
There are plenty of people who wouldn’t know what someone who works out looks like if they were hit over the head with it. On this very site (and this is going back 2-3 years or more now) there was a thread where pictures of some pretty big friggin guys were posted and teh general consensus was “lulz what fatasses.” Now granted, they were all (i think) powerlifters and strongmen, not bodybuilders, but still, these were guys who had worked very hard for a very long time, and yet there were plenty of people who apparently couldnt tell. These people were not exactly the cognoscenti of the lifting world, but they were not far off from the average guy on the street either.[/quote]
What does any of that have to do with what was stated? Who cares that people who aren’t serious about lifting can’t tell who is built and who isn’t? Since when do we judge ourselves by the standards of people who are one step removed from being completely sedentary? Most of the people you just described will be looking exactly the same 5 years from now as they do now or worse.
Most people who lift regularly can tell the difference between someone who is out of shape and someone who has built a shit load of muscle. This has nothing to do with what old grandmothers think about muscles.
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So what about Marc Bartley. He trained for his show in august of 08 for almost a year. was he not a bodybuilder until mid-may 08? what was he before then? what changed between the beginning of may and memorial day other than a handful of lbs of fat, (if that much)? What about Dave Tate? Hasnt done a bodybuilding show for probably almost 20 years, but for half the year he gets into teh single digit bodyfat and half the year he’s not. So he’s a bodybuilder Jan-July but not Aug-dec? what is he from aug-dec? [EDIT to add:] and when you write “ready to compete in 3 short months” … compete at what level? good enough not to get laughed off the stage? or to take top 3? does it matter how deep the field is? are we talking local level or qualifier?[/EDIT][/quote]
What the hell are you talking about? You don’t think Dave Tate qualified as a bodybuilder? He competed in powerlifting but CLEARLY worked on building a shit load of muscle and all of his training wasn’t ONLY for powerlifting. His approach wasn’t much different than mine as far as bulking up yet you think he would run screaming if someone called him a bodybuilder? You don’t think he is one simply because he is also a powerlifter? How does that make sense to you?
You are making this complicated for no reason. Are you saying you can’t tell who has built a shit load of muscle and who hasn’t by looking at them? This is that hard for you?
What does what you are writing have to do with what was written previously?
If you have been lifting for several years and no one can even tell, you are NOT a bodybuilder. You are just some guy who wasted years in the gym who should find a new hobby. You don’t get extra credit just for TRYING.
What grey areas? You are either muscular or you aren’t. You have either made progress or you haven’t. This is subjective so trying to come up with some perfect description that fits all people makes no sense in the first place. You know it when you see it and no one gives a shit about the opinion of people who don’t even lift seriously. Most of them can’t even tell you the names of the muscles they are looking at.
Anyone who has been serious about this for years can tell whether someone has built enough mass to be impressive even if they aren’t HUGE yet.
Please post pictures of people who are in such a “grey area” that no one can tell whether they have muscle or not yet they are still built.
[quote]Game Time wrote:
And this…[/quote]
This just makes me wish I had some good training partners. From what I hear, donkey calf raises are the bees knees.
[quote]Stuntman Mike wrote:
It’s this splitting pubes that everyone is so concerned about. Lift a lot, eat a lot (just not like Artem). How hard is it, really?[/quote]
Totally agree.
And he wasnt kidding earlier guys, Stuntman’s hands are pretty rough.
My biggest hate is being only 165lb at 5’11".
Fucking. Pathetic.
I woke up today and I was too big.
Worst thing about it is the mental obsession. I don’t even what it was like before I thought about training all day, everyday.
The pain of having people telling you ‘you’re overly built’, ‘you eat too much’, ‘you’re hurting yourself with all this protein’ and that kind of shit.
[quote]Bicep_craze wrote:
The pain of having people telling you ‘you’re overly built’, ‘you eat too much’, ‘you’re hurting yourself with all this protein’ and that kind of shit.[/quote]
Haha funny that some guy in a casino actually said “you’ll get protein poisoning”.
[quote]Curran wrote:
Worst thing about it is the mental obsession. I don’t even what it was like before I thought about training all day, everyday.[/quote]
I’ve thought about this. You ever look back on your skinny (or fat) pre-training pictures? You ever think about the mentality you had in those days? I know every wrinkle, every pinch of fat, and every muscular shape on my body.
Back then? I KNOW I didn’t, but I still can’t remember what that felt like. It’s as if I’ve only been living in the past 3 years of my life (since complete devotion took over)
I can agree with almost everything here.
I do want to point out that my discipline was unparalleled when I began, and slowly over time, I saw such minimal gains that I realized what I was doing wasn’t about discipline.
Since then, I’ve been trying to scale back more and more until I can find the ‘balance’ as I call it. The balance is putting forth maximal effort when you’re in the gym in an intelligent way (not doing things for the sake of doing them), and putting out the MINIMAL effort required to yield the biggest gains outside the gym.
A life of bodybuilding cannot possibly be fulfilling if it’s 100% of your life, and you’re not in the IFBB. The reason is just that it takes too long. You have to find the balance which allows you to live the life you wish to live in addition to catering to perpetual growth so that in 20 years, you have made yourself a success in life and have built the body you envisioned all those years ago.
Professor X, I don’t know much about you, but I wish I could talk to you about ‘how it was’ when you first started and what your life is like now outside of bodybuilding. You have paid your dues and from what I can see, have found your personal balance. Just be sure to use your success to help others and not belittle them, we have enough of the latter in the world already. Good job on your accomplishment(s).
Dealing with the ignorance of the general public.
I really do get annoyed at this:
- “so do you work out?”
- “yep”
- “oh what exercises do you do?”
- “…”
sigh
I also hate it when someone sees you drinking a protein shake, shakes their head, and says some shit like, “dude… dont you rather want to be natural? that shit makes your dick shrink!”
^ this idiot exists…
I hate that when I should be studying I am too busy thinking about my next workout!
[quote]nz6stringaxe wrote:
Curran wrote:
Worst thing about it is the mental obsession. I don’t even what it was like before I thought about training all day, everyday.
I’ve thought about this. You ever look back on your skinny (or fat) pre-training pictures? You ever think about the mentality you had in those days? I know every wrinkle, every pinch of fat, and every muscular shape on my body.
Back then? I KNOW I didn’t, but I still can’t remember what that felt like. It’s as if I’ve only been living in the past 3 years of my life (since complete devotion took over)
I can agree with almost everything here.
I do want to point out that my discipline was unparalleled when I began, and slowly over time, I saw such minimal gains that I realized what I was doing wasn’t about discipline.
Since then, I’ve been trying to scale back more and more until I can find the ‘balance’ as I call it. The balance is putting forth maximal effort when you’re in the gym in an intelligent way (not doing things for the sake of doing them), and putting out the MINIMAL effort required to yield the biggest gains outside the gym.
A life of bodybuilding cannot possibly be fulfilling if it’s 100% of your life, and you’re not in the IFBB. The reason is just that it takes too long. You have to find the balance which allows you to live the life you wish to live in addition to catering to perpetual growth so that in 20 years, you have made yourself a success in life and have built the body you envisioned all those years ago.
Professor X, I don’t know much about you, but I wish I could talk to you about ‘how it was’ when you first started and what your life is like now outside of bodybuilding. You have paid your dues and from what I can see, have found your personal balance. Just be sure to use your success to help others and not belittle them, we have enough of the latter in the world already. Good job on your accomplishment(s).[/quote]
I agree. the only thing I am thinking about most of the time is my next workout. When you are not training, what do you think about? Do you really enjoy your life?
THIS is the most annoying thing about bodybuiding. I started saving money for a huge travel when I was 15, now I have 10K, preparing to leave to next summer ( I’ll have about 15K).I am gonna travel for about 2years probably. I know I will revert back to benching 135 and deadlifting 275, It is really annoying. I am torn between BB and my dream. It is screwing everything.
When I’m not training, I am thinking about bodybuilding. It’s always on my mind. I have dreams about it at night, and for me, that’s when you know it’s taken some serious real estate in your brain. I do also think about music a lot, though. It’s music, bodybuilding, and just thinking about the world around me. Bodybuilding is normally first, though.
Last night i struggled to sleep because i remembered in the middle of the night i had forgotten to drink my casein shake. I tried to dismiss it, but i had done a really intense workout earlier in the day and my OCD had me tossing and turning until at 4am i ended up caving in and going downstairs to make one. I appreciate the effect would have been minimal at best but i still couldn’t sleep until i had drunk one.
Completely ridiculous.
I don’t think it’s an issue of having to skip meals or social outings. If you are doing this, than your friends must eat at some REALLY shitty places. I haven’t had to skip out on any social outings that I chose to partake in with relation to food because stuff gets PLANNED (which is a big thing for me, since I work six days a week) so I can adjust my meals accordingly.
Also, if your pals are going to a really shitty restaurant that doesn’t have ANYTHING to support your diet, then you need to talk to them about how serious you are with bodybuilding and work something out. I’m a big fan of places like Rib Crib, El Chico, Panera Bread, or hell, even McDonalds, because there is ALWAYS meals down there that one would consider a bodybuilder meal. Why do people think that because we are at a social outing, we have to kill ourselves eating? It seems to go back to that “rewarding yourself” mentality. I understand the point of cheat meals to curb your appetite and keep you in line, but I like what the guy said eariler about the slippery slope. It really does get pretty angled after awhile.
But all things considered I can still see how things work out. If you’re at a friends house, sometimes they just don’t have any good food. When I ran into that situation I just suck it up and get some water. I have a sports bag that I carry in my car with “back-up food” just in case of those situations. Or if I just feel like munching.
ANYWAY, I would have to say the worst thing for me is people asking me how to target their abs when I say that I am working out in the morning, and they are serious.
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
THIS is the most annoying thing about bodybuiding. I started saving money for a huge travel when I was 15, now I have 10K, preparing to leave to next summer ( I’ll have about 15K).I am gonna travel for about 2years probably. I know I will revert back to benching 135 and deadlifting 275, It is really annoying. I am torn between BB and my dream. It is screwing everything.[/quote]
Why do you have to make a choice? Why can’t you travel AND continue training? It would be cool to seek out gyms abroad. It would be a great way to get acquainted with the physical culture of every place you visit. Make THAT your focus when you travel. Keep a daily journal. When you finally settle down in 2 years, you’ll have gained quite a bit of perspective, maturity, and hopefully some new muscle.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
THIS is the most annoying thing about bodybuiding. I started saving money for a huge travel when I was 15, now I have 10K, preparing to leave to next summer ( I’ll have about 15K).I am gonna travel for about 2years probably. I know I will revert back to benching 135 and deadlifting 275, It is really annoying. I am torn between BB and my dream. It is screwing everything.
Why do you have to make a choice? Why can’t you travel AND continue training? It would be cool to seek out gyms abroad. It would be a great way to get acquainted with the physical culture of every place you visit. Make THAT your focus when you travel. Keep a daily journal. When you finally settle down in 2 years, you’ll have gained quite a bit of perspective, maturity, and hopefully some new muscle.
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That would make a pretty awesome book…like Bridges of Madison County, only less gay and with an even smaller target demographic.
Here’s a good one: about a month ago I got into an argument with this lady I work with. She’s 50 and is as round as she is tall. She eats like shit, doesn’t work out, but doesn’t complain about it…mostly. Her and I get along, she’s generally really fun to work with.
Anyways, I’m talking about Health Insurance premiums and she overhears the tail end of the conversation and doesn’t agree with what I’m saying. She says, “…and I don’t think the stuff you take is healthy…do you think you’re premiums should be higher?” I had been talking about how people with unhealthy lifestyles (ie smoke and drink excessively have higher premiums).
So I say, “So, in your expert opinion, protein shakes aren’t healthy? Fish oil capsules aren’t healthy? Glad you’re here, because, according to science, I have a healthy diet comprised of vegetables, fruits, grains, nuts, and lean protein sources. I’m glad you pointed out the error of my ways. Do you have any extra whoopie pies or did you eat your stash already? Maybe after that I can bum a cigarette out of one of the three packs you have in your purse because this whole lifting weights and keeping in good cardiovascular shape is detrimental to my health.”
So, yea, I hate misinformed people who read US weekly for their exercise tips.