The War on Drugs

It’s lucrative. The difference in sales taxes is astronomical.

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Are we referring to illegally transporting mass quantities of cigarettes over state lines for one to make an individualistic profit?

That’s… incredibly illegal

Should also be noted the model within Holland is flawed, coffeeshops receive cannabis through a “back door”… who is providing these coffeeshops with 500g + cannabis daily (they’re supposed to only have 500g weed at any given time… but sales are considerably more than that…)

It’s typically those affiliated with organised crime. Only just now is the government trialling legitimate, legally provided cannabis

Some dude growing a few plants in his house probably isn’t going to amount to producing 500g plant material on a daily basis. Furthermore the HASH, esp the import hash… how to they get this? It’s almost always smuggled into the country

Exactly. Cigarettes are legal yet there’s still a black market for them.

Once again, when has that ever stopped anybody from anything?

Risk/reward.

They’re all edible.

Once.

That’s a 50 lb. Grifola Frondosa, next to a 25 lb.'r off to the side.

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Huge black market for them here in Aus. With prices approaching 50$/pack, the rise of “chop chop” has occurred

Chop chop is black market tobacco of questionable quality. There have been numerous reports of the product being contaminated with mold, lung infections occurring directly after the inhalation of this shit… I’d argue, this black market wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t 45$ for a pack of 20 Marlboro

Go to many tobacconists, particularly in certain neighbourhoods of which i won’t make and ask for “chop chop”… sometimes they’ll have cigarettes In original packaging… sometimes they’ll just have generalised lose leaf, black market rolling tobacco

I don’t smoke tobacco, though I’ve tried it on numerous occasions because I’m an idiot.

Is that you in the pic?

Every now and then around autumn on our farm these MASSIVE mushrooms pop up, I’ve always wondered what they are. Next time they pop up I’ll send you a pic

Well… me… from doing many things. I only defy the law (occasionally) when it pertains to minor possession/use. Not large scale felonies

Tbh I even abide by speed limits to an exact constant, I feel as if it’s reckless to speed, thereby risking the lives of others on the road… not just my own

Yes. I’m old.

Entirely unfamiliar with Australian mycology though.

Yeah it’s a huge market for the cartel.

You’re not old, you look to be about 30-35… young/just heading into “middle aged” territory

Mushroom

What cartel? How exactly. Alcohol is an item legally available to the masses (affordibly within America)… why would Mexican cartels bother producing bootleg liquor

What I’m getting at is people point out illegally sold tobacco and alcohol as if organized crime would still be in the drug trade were current illicit drugs treated the same as those two. I’m not saying you, I’m saying it’s what economically inept people claim.

So you draw your line for black market at the biggest organized crime syndicates in the world, and illegal black market at the billions/hundreds of billions, narco-economy level?

You leave some pretty big crumbs to clean up.

You ever start your own operation, let me know. I can sweep floors and tidy up with the best of them.

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I’ve never done anything minus alcohol and tobacco. I have bipolar disorder and I’ve always been scared to fuck with anything really. I’m even careful of the supplements I use. Hot Rox turned me into an anxiety nightmare. Probably the Y I’m sure. Gave the bottle to a friend after I tried a few times.

We haven’t had much luck with treatment resistant depression so I’m hopeful for anything. People 30 years ago wouldn’t have dreamed of medical marijuana being used in the ways it is today. I got hopes in science! Last I knew they were looking at it in nasal form.

All I’m saying is anyone who thinks organized crime will stay in business off drugs if they’re treated like alcohol and tobacco is an economically inept tax eating clown.

Intranasal… I’ve looked at the data, im somewhat skeptical though

I find it amusing they’re marketing it to be used intranasally. I assume esketamine has a longer duration of action comparative to intranasal… regular ketamine… because ketamine when abused intranasally lasts about 45 minutes

I imagine this formulation of medication will be highly, highly prone to abuse

Who or what entity would take responsibility for the production and distribution of a known, guaranteed deadly product?

What would they have to do to the price to cover liability and still profit?

Run us through the numbers Captain Economic Sensibility.

Lay it out for us.

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Oh gee, I don’t, know perhaps the mega cap entities that already do exactly that like big pharma, tobacco, and alcohol. I’m just spitballing though. It wouldn’t be as deadly with dosage and purity known either.

Where’s the fun in that?

Last time I did heroin wasn’t because it was safe.

It’s because it was effective! (very potent, China white).

Also, we have a legislative shitstorm brewing currently in the US over liability for the Oxy debacle of the last 20 years, so how that shakes out for big pharma is yet to be determined.

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