[quote]clinton131 wrote:
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Yeah, when he first said something about the 5 fragments I thought he had already looked in there, only to find out a few mins later he just began digging in there.[/quote]
I guess it is possible that the bullet fragmented as it passed through the deer and then created five separate entrance wounds on the kid. This could explain how the vet determined there were five fragments. [/quote]
That’s what I assumed as well.
[quote]clinton131 wrote:
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Yeah, when he first said something about the 5 fragments I thought he had already looked in there, only to find out a few mins later he just began digging in there.[/quote]
I guess it is possible that the bullet fragmented as it passed through the deer and then created five separate entrance wounds on the kid. This could explain how the vet determined there were five fragments. [/quote]
Agreed BUT it clearly showed he had one entrance wound.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]clinton131 wrote:
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Yeah, when he first said something about the 5 fragments I thought he had already looked in there, only to find out a few mins later he just began digging in there.[/quote]
I guess it is possible that the bullet fragmented as it passed through the deer and then created five separate entrance wounds on the kid. This could explain how the vet determined there were five fragments. [/quote]
Agreed BUT it clearly showed he had one entrance wound. [/quote]
LOL, not just that.
Let me know how that stands up in court if you try to explain you told a patient you got out all bullet fragments with no x-ray.
Only someone who had never done that before would say what that actor said the way he said it.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
^ it makes since. We are not talking war we are talking Family disaster world wide. The special forces are home protecting there families or killing them after they turned. And I must disagree but only slightly. Peole that are thrown into Stress have more than just the two Leaders and followers.
You are looking at this with what I call “Cop” eyes (does not mean you are a cop just that you are around trained people who thru the natural weeding out process- training, military training, advanced schooling split into the two groups.)
The 3rd group are the “Obsticles” the group that are lost, have no idea how to follow or the wisdom to know who they should follow. The argue, disrupt the other 2 groups and become a issue that must be delt with. Not a problem if it’s war kill the fucker and move on bit if it’s one of your own family or one of your followers family you have problems.
Like the mistake people make when they say there is 2 reactions to an attack Fight or Flight. There is a 3rd to that also its Freeze.[/quote]
Who are you asking about in regards to “Cop” eyes?
Well in a zombie situation 460 the people who freeze die or become zombie’s themselves. Reason why there are so many zombie’s in “theory”, that would leave people with great survival skills but then in the left overs you got two types of people leaders and followers.
@ Steel I was not referring to the fact of the child being shot, really you interpret that out of what I typed?
Why would that go with that story line period? Was it in the comics if so fine my bad. But why even shot the kid period and spend 30 minutes building up a totally not realistic medical situation?
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Sorry, I was going to quote your post. but I’m thumb typing on a Iphone and sometimes the whole thing comes out in the middle of a post.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]clinton131 wrote:
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Yeah, when he first said something about the 5 fragments I thought he had already looked in there, only to find out a few mins later he just began digging in there.[/quote]
I guess it is possible that the bullet fragmented as it passed through the deer and then created five separate entrance wounds on the kid. This could explain how the vet determined there were five fragments. [/quote]
Agreed BUT it clearly showed he had one entrance wound. [/quote]
LOL, not just that.
Let me know how that stands up in court if you try to explain you told a patient you got out all bullet fragments with no x-ray.
Only someone who had never done that before would say what that actor said the way he said it.
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Constant irritation of mine is when movies and TV shows do not get medical advise for screen writers. I mean shit give me $100 and I would help them avoid stupid shit like this.
Vet “He has one entrance wound but due to going through a deer could be fragmented, I need to open him up to see what we have”
Dont get me started on “Nick a vessel bullshit”
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
^ it makes since. We are not talking war we are talking Family disaster world wide. The special forces are home protecting there families or killing them after they turned. And I must disagree but only slightly. Peole that are thrown into Stress have more than just the two Leaders and followers.
You are looking at this with what I call “Cop” eyes (does not mean you are a cop just that you are around trained people who thru the natural weeding out process- training, military training, advanced schooling split into the two groups.)
The 3rd group are the “Obsticles” the group that are lost, have no idea how to follow or the wisdom to know who they should follow. The argue, disrupt the other 2 groups and become a issue that must be delt with. Not a problem if it’s war kill the fucker and move on bit if it’s one of your own family or one of your followers family you have problems.
Like the mistake people make when they say there is 2 reactions to an attack Fight or Flight. There is a 3rd to that also its Freeze.[/quote]
Who are you asking about in regards to “Cop” eyes?
Well in a zombie situation 460 the people who freeze die or become zombie’s themselves. Reason why there are so many zombie’s in “theory”, that would leave people with great survival skills but then in the left overs you got two types of people leaders and followers.
@ Steel I was not referring to the fact of the child being shot, really you interpret that out of what I typed?
Why would that go with that story line period? Was it in the comics if so fine my bad. But why even shot the kid period and spend 30 minutes building up a totally not realistic medical situation?
[/quote]
Oh and don’t get me wrong I left the story line and was just going with the theory of leaders and followers. But to answer the above. Yes that comes at the end the 2 groups like the same way you get the top of the class and the rest. It ends up being the leaders and followers but this is not about the absolute end its about the journey that leads to the end.
It will take a while for you to lose that 3rd group because its hard to let family go. And if youa are the leader you run the risk a revolt if you start asking your followers to kill the winny kids and the stubburn elderly in the groups who are family members I assume the jackasses will be easy kills though.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
^ it makes since. We are not talking war we are talking Family disaster world wide. The special forces are home protecting there families or killing them after they turned. And I must disagree but only slightly. Peole that are thrown into Stress have more than just the two Leaders and followers.
You are looking at this with what I call “Cop” eyes (does not mean you are a cop just that you are around trained people who thru the natural weeding out process- training, military training, advanced schooling split into the two groups.)
The 3rd group are the “Obsticles” the group that are lost, have no idea how to follow or the wisdom to know who they should follow. The argue, disrupt the other 2 groups and become a issue that must be delt with. Not a problem if it’s war kill the fucker and move on bit if it’s one of your own family or one of your followers family you have problems.
Like the mistake people make when they say there is 2 reactions to an attack Fight or Flight. There is a 3rd to that also its Freeze.[/quote]
Who are you asking about in regards to “Cop” eyes?
Well in a zombie situation 460 the people who freeze die or become zombie’s themselves. Reason why there are so many zombie’s in “theory”, that would leave people with great survival skills but then in the left overs you got two types of people leaders and followers.
@ Steel I was not referring to the fact of the child being shot, really you interpret that out of what I typed?
Why would that go with that story line period? Was it in the comics if so fine my bad. But why even shot the kid period and spend 30 minutes building up a totally not realistic medical situation?
[/quote]
Sorry, I was going to quote your post. but I’m thumb typing on a Iphone and sometimes the whole thing comes out in the middle of a post.[/quote]
No worries 460, by reference to military was not really in regards to this show.
I was meaning in the zombie drama in general besides the crazies which I thought was awesome. 28 days later touched on this at the end of course which I think was realistic.
“SPOILER”
Its not about the kid
Its about that farm.
But that last episode was a damn filler there is no way around that.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
^ it makes since. We are not talking war we are talking Family disaster world wide. The special forces are home protecting there families or killing them after they turned. And I must disagree but only slightly. Peole that are thrown into Stress have more than just the two Leaders and followers.
You are looking at this with what I call “Cop” eyes (does not mean you are a cop just that you are around trained people who thru the natural weeding out process- training, military training, advanced schooling split into the two groups.)
The 3rd group are the “Obsticles” the group that are lost, have no idea how to follow or the wisdom to know who they should follow. The argue, disrupt the other 2 groups and become a issue that must be delt with. Not a problem if it’s war kill the fucker and move on bit if it’s one of your own family or one of your followers family you have problems.
Like the mistake people make when they say there is 2 reactions to an attack Fight or Flight. There is a 3rd to that also its Freeze.[/quote]
Who are you asking about in regards to “Cop” eyes?
Well in a zombie situation 460 the people who freeze die or become zombie’s themselves. Reason why there are so many zombie’s in “theory”, that would leave people with great survival skills but then in the left overs you got two types of people leaders and followers.
@ Steel I was not referring to the fact of the child being shot, really you interpret that out of what I typed?
Why would that go with that story line period? Was it in the comics if so fine my bad. But why even shot the kid period and spend 30 minutes building up a totally not realistic medical situation?
[/quote]
Oh and don’t get me wrong I left the story line and was just going with the theory of leaders and followers. But to answer the above. Yes that comes at the end the 2 groups like the same way you get the top of the class and the rest. It ends up being the leaders and followers but this is not about the absolute end its about the journey that leads to the end.
It will take a while for you to lose that 3rd group because its hard to let family go. And if youa are the leader you run the risk a revolt if you start asking your followers to kill the winny kids and the stubburn elderly in the groups who are family members I assume the jackasses will be easy kills though.[/quote]
Kids are the hang up, like the dumbass 13 year old girl. “stay here till I get back” he is gone 2 minutes and the dumbass climbs out and runs away.
I think we have instinctual focus that would kick in during this time, nomadic tribal tendencies from when we first started on the earth.
Women would protect the young, men would lead the way. Sorry not being a sexist but there was a reason this was the structure during tribal times.
[quote]four60 wrote:
“SPOILER”
Its not about the kid
Its about that farm.
But that last episode was a damn filler there is no way around that.[/quote]
See man that is my point WHY the filler, why the kid shot, crying, tug at heart string bullshit?
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]clinton131 wrote:
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Yeah, when he first said something about the 5 fragments I thought he had already looked in there, only to find out a few mins later he just began digging in there.[/quote]
I guess it is possible that the bullet fragmented as it passed through the deer and then created five separate entrance wounds on the kid. This could explain how the vet determined there were five fragments. [/quote]
Agreed BUT it clearly showed he had one entrance wound. [/quote]
Yea, that’s a problem then. I could not remember if they showed that or not. Just remember the vet digging around in the one wound.
There have been a few situations in this series that have made me shake my head and say “No Way”. First one I saw was in the first episode when they laid the spike strips out for that car. Cars do not launch into the air and then barrel roll down the roadway immediately after running over spike strips. Pure Hollywood glamour for affect.
Still love the show.
[quote]clinton131 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]clinton131 wrote:
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Yeah, when he first said something about the 5 fragments I thought he had already looked in there, only to find out a few mins later he just began digging in there.[/quote]
I guess it is possible that the bullet fragmented as it passed through the deer and then created five separate entrance wounds on the kid. This could explain how the vet determined there were five fragments. [/quote]
Agreed BUT it clearly showed he had one entrance wound. [/quote]
Yea, that’s a problem then. I could not remember if they showed that or not. Just remember the vet digging around in the one wound.
There have been a few situations in this series that have made me shake my head and say “No Way”. First one I saw was in the first episode when they laid the spike strips out for that car. Cars do not launch into the air and then barrel roll down the roadway immediately after running over spike strips. Pure Hollywood glamour for affect.
Still love the show. [/quote]
Lol yea I love the show and will continue to watch it, now want to read the comics.
I try to ignore the medical mistakes for the most part, but sometimes its a big face palm.
Anybody know if they have taken the comics and basically put it in book form? I have a nook and would love to just down load it.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
^ it makes since. We are not talking war we are talking Family disaster world wide. The special forces are home protecting there families or killing them after they turned. And I must disagree but only slightly. Peole that are thrown into Stress have more than just the two Leaders and followers.
You are looking at this with what I call “Cop” eyes (does not mean you are a cop just that you are around trained people who thru the natural weeding out process- training, military training, advanced schooling split into the two groups.)
The 3rd group are the “Obsticles” the group that are lost, have no idea how to follow or the wisdom to know who they should follow. The argue, disrupt the other 2 groups and become a issue that must be delt with. Not a problem if it’s war kill the fucker and move on bit if it’s one of your own family or one of your followers family you have problems.
Like the mistake people make when they say there is 2 reactions to an attack Fight or Flight. There is a 3rd to that also its Freeze.[/quote]
Who are you asking about in regards to “Cop” eyes?
Well in a zombie situation 460 the people who freeze die or become zombie’s themselves. Reason why there are so many zombie’s in “theory”, that would leave people with great survival skills but then in the left overs you got two types of people leaders and followers.
@ Steel I was not referring to the fact of the child being shot, really you interpret that out of what I typed?
Why would that go with that story line period? Was it in the comics if so fine my bad. But why even shot the kid period and spend 30 minutes building up a totally not realistic medical situation?
[/quote]
Oh and don’t get me wrong I left the story line and was just going with the theory of leaders and followers. But to answer the above. Yes that comes at the end the 2 groups like the same way you get the top of the class and the rest. It ends up being the leaders and followers but this is not about the absolute end its about the journey that leads to the end.
It will take a while for you to lose that 3rd group because its hard to let family go. And if youa are the leader you run the risk a revolt if you start asking your followers to kill the winny kids and the stubburn elderly in the groups who are family members I assume the jackasses will be easy kills though.[/quote]
Kids are the hang up, like the dumbass 13 year old girl. “stay here till I get back” he is gone 2 minutes and the dumbass climbs out and runs away.
I think we have instinctual focus that would kick in during this time, nomadic tribal tendencies from when we first started on the earth.
Women would protect the young, men would lead the way. Sorry not being a sexist but there was a reason this was the structure during tribal times.
[/quote]
I agree 100% but think of how many of that 3rd group we would really have to vote off island earth before we get to the leaders and followers. And in that 3rd group you have every wanna be smart guy thinking he has a better way that may get many killed. So them fuckers will have to die, now you have to deal with his family and friends. Sad but then they may have to go.
Then if you decide you want to go it with just your family you have to deal with the idea of running into the crazy NWO groups. But in the end it will come down to those that are smart enough to follow the right group and those that are smart and wise enough to lead.
To bad the writers have not had the mustard to put that on screen yet.
^ yes sir there would be a transition period for sure, Darwin at his finest.
Honestly you have TWO problems in real life.
Zombies and “Bad People”
My question is for the comics does the plague die out?
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ yes sir there would be a transition period for sure, Darwin at his finest.
Honestly you have TWO problems in real life.
Zombies and “Bad People”
My question is for the comics does the plague die out? [/quote]
Not YET. But the “BAD PEOPLE” turn out to be the real problem. The Zombies are just the trigger.
Yeah after a while in the books its not about the zombies at the all, the only time they are still threatenning is in a heard of 200-500 all grouped up.
People are evil though especially the Governor
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ yes sir there would be a transition period for sure, Darwin at his finest.
Honestly you have TWO problems in real life.
Zombies and “Bad People”
My question is for the comics does the plague die out? [/quote]
Not YET. But the “BAD PEOPLE” turn out to be the real problem. The Zombies are just the trigger.[/quote]
See that is what always interests me in end of the world genre, not so much the impact or immediate transition but the rest of the settling out period. The Stand is probably one of my all time favorite books that I have read about 6-8 times.
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
Yeah after a while in the books its not about the zombies at the all, the only time they are still threatenning is in a heard of 200-500 all grouped up.
People are evil though especially the Governor[/quote]
shhhhhhhh
Not yet but help is on the way…
^ 460 did you see my question about book form?
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ yes sir there would be a transition period for sure, Darwin at his finest.
Honestly you have TWO problems in real life.
Zombies and “Bad People”
My question is for the comics does the plague die out? [/quote]
Not YET. But the “BAD PEOPLE” turn out to be the real problem. The Zombies are just the trigger.[/quote]
See that is what always interests me in end of the world genre, not so much the impact or immediate transition but the rest of the settling out period. The Stand is probably one of my all time favorite books that I have read about 6-8 times.
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Like the start or how I envision the Matrix would be. The STAND. The evil would not be a demon but how our fear would move us. I never read the book but seen the TV version ahhahahahahaha.
We are just not ready to fight a war with a bad guy we can’t see. Hell the longest war we ever had is the war on terror a faceless bad guy around every corner. Now imagine a virus hiding in every person you meet. We would sink into that world of the stand faster than you could imagine.