I understand people want more zombies, but they can’t constantly fight zombies. They’ll run out of ammo and die.
I don’t want MORE zombies. I want some real life assholes who just want to be dicks when the world comes to an end. Make it more real.
What is this???
[quote]four60 wrote:
I don’t want MORE zombies. I want some real life assholes who just want to be dicks when the world comes to an end. Make it more real. [/quote]
Yes, but keep in mind that in addition to unlimited ammo, in this world the dead walk and bangers decided that tending to old folks is how they will spend their time. So, maybe it’s the Salvation Army that is raping and pillaging?
I thought the fact that all the living are not suddenly on the same side was one of the central themes in the comics. It does not appear to be as important to the writers of the show.
Regards
Robert A
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
I don’t want MORE zombies. I want some real life assholes who just want to be dicks when the world comes to an end. Make it more real. [/quote]
Yes, but keep in mind that in addition to unlimited ammo, in this world the dead walk and bangers decided that tending to old folks is how they will spend their time. So, maybe it’s the Salvation Army that is raping and pillaging?
I thought the fact that all the living are not suddenly on the same side was one of the central themes in the comics. It does not appear to be as important to the writers of the show.
Regards
Robert A[/quote]
I think it is keeping in line with the books. I almost get the feeling like they are trying to make you feel one way or the other about these characters so when The shit hits the fan you feel something good or bad but you feel.
[quote]Christine wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ Sounds like they are at least listening to feedback.[/quote]
I wouldn’t be surprised if they hired people to lurk internet forums.
If so…
Please, more Shane![/quote]
I don’t think they should kill off Shane (yet), but a splinter group with him as leader would be be good. They need more recruits for that though.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Christine wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ Sounds like they are at least listening to feedback.[/quote]
I wouldn’t be surprised if they hired people to lurk internet forums.
If so…
Please, more Shane![/quote]
I don’t think they should kill off Shane (yet), but a splinter group with him as leader would be be good. They need more recruits for that though.[/quote]
I enjoy watching his madness…but that fucker needs to die.
In order for the story and the WD world to grow they need to move on and pass this group.
[quote]Robert A wrote:
Yes, but keep in mind that in addition to unlimited ammo, in this world the dead walk and bangers decided that tending to old folks is how they will spend their time. So, maybe it’s the Salvation Army that is raping and pillaging? [/quote]
Dude, you really didn’t get the point of that ep. The remaining Vatos stayed because they were relatives of the elderly. A lot of them left to save their own skins.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
I don’t want MORE zombies. I want some real life assholes who just want to be dicks when the world comes to an end. Make it more real. [/quote]
Yes, but keep in mind that in addition to unlimited ammo, in this world the dead walk and bangers decided that tending to old folks is how they will spend their time. So, maybe it’s the Salvation Army that is raping and pillaging?
I thought the fact that all the living are not suddenly on the same side was one of the central themes in the comics. It does not appear to be as important to the writers of the show.
Regards
Robert A[/quote]
I think it is keeping in line with the books. I almost get the feeling like they are trying to make you feel one way or the other about these characters so when The shit hits the fan you feel something good or bad but you feel.[/quote]
Well, it is sort of working. They could go for a bit more character development, and that doesn’t have to mean back story. The “only black man in Atlanta” can be the first one they step it up with. It feels to me that his character is being kept around as either a place holder or as an easy casualty.
Regards,
Robert A
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Christine wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ Sounds like they are at least listening to feedback.[/quote]
I wouldn’t be surprised if they hired people to lurk internet forums.
If so…
Please, more Shane![/quote]
I don’t think they should kill off Shane (yet), but a splinter group with him as leader would be be good. They need more recruits for that though.[/quote]
I enjoy watching his madness…but that fucker needs to die.
In order for the story and the WD world to grow they need to move on and pass this group.
[/quote]
I agree with that. I just want Shane to have full leadership of a group to see how long they’ll last. Not very.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Christine wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ Sounds like they are at least listening to feedback.[/quote]
I wouldn’t be surprised if they hired people to lurk internet forums.
If so…
Please, more Shane![/quote]
I don’t think they should kill off Shane (yet), but a splinter group with him as leader would be be good. They need more recruits for that though.[/quote]
I enjoy watching his madness…but that fucker needs to die.
In order for the story and the WD world to grow they need to move on and pass this group.
[/quote]
I agree with that. I just want Shane to have full leadership of a group to see how long they’ll last. Not very.[/quote]
Sounds like the story of Spartacus. hahahaha.
I will say I want to see shane’s character taken to its limit. He deserves to not just be left on the side of the highway to walk the earth alone. His story needs a ending.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Christine wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ Sounds like they are at least listening to feedback.[/quote]
I wouldn’t be surprised if they hired people to lurk internet forums.
If so…
Please, more Shane![/quote]
I don’t think they should kill off Shane (yet), but a splinter group with him as leader would be be good. They need more recruits for that though.[/quote]
I enjoy watching his madness…but that fucker needs to die.
In order for the story and the WD world to grow they need to move on and pass this group.
[/quote]
I agree with that. I just want Shane to have full leadership of a group to see how long they’ll last. Not very.[/quote]
Sounds like the story of Spartacus. hahahaha.
I will say I want to see shane’s character taken to its limit. He deserves to not just be left on the side of the highway to walk the earth alone. His story needs a ending.[/quote]
Preferably a painful one.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Robert A wrote:
Yes, but keep in mind that in addition to unlimited ammo, in this world the dead walk and bangers decided that tending to old folks is how they will spend their time. So, maybe it’s the Salvation Army that is raping and pillaging? [/quote]
Dude, you really didn’t get the point of that ep. The remaining Vatos stayed because they were relatives of the elderly. A lot of them left to save their own skins.
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Maybe I didn’t. Just thought the episode was weak for a bunch of reasons.
From memory:
1.) The Bag of Guns-this is fucking weak at best. In Georgia a bag full of shotguns and a few deer rifles is unlikely to be the huge commodity. Ammo maybe, but a few 870’s, not so much. I get why the “group” would have wanted them, but the city should be fairly full of weapons.
2.) The hospital/retirement home-The “vatos” should either have been over-run, or would have been in a more secure compound. The whole “city is a death trap” thing makes this less than likely. Food, water, and medical supplies would also be a huge issue unless the hospital/home was “purged” of the majority of its residents. Most of these places keep less than a week of food, or meds, and rely on laundry services. They are not going to be all that self sufficient without serious restocking and up armoring.
3.) The lets have everyone sitting around a fire with no guards, and make a ton of noise thing was really bad. If they would have staged it better if wouldn’t have rubbed me the wrong way. The lack of perimeter at the camp seemed out of character even for a group of random people this deep into the zombie take over.
4.)SPOILER-Maybe?- The biggest thing that troubled me had to do with why the dead rise. Having read some of the comics this may be something that I was clinging to 4 episodes in and wouldn’t hit me now. Did you read the comics/do you know what I am alluding to? There is a very, very good reason why hospitals/old age homes/anywhere sickly people are would not be a good place to station out of. It is also a reason why anyone who was around these places would know much more about what is going on.
Having said all that I liked how Rick used his brain to prevent a blood bath. It showed a degree of leadership that really has not developed as fast as I thought it would.
Regards,
Robert A
[quote] Robert A wrote:
Maybe I didn’t. Just thought the episode was weak for a bunch of reasons.
From memory:
1.) The Bag of Guns-this is fucking weak at best. In Georgia a bag full of shotguns and a few deer rifles is unlikely to be the huge commodity. Ammo maybe, but a few 870’s, not so much. I get why the “group” would have wanted them, but the city should be fairly full of weapons.
2.) The hospital/retirement home-The “vatos” should either have been over-run, or would have been in a more secure compound. The whole “city is a death trap” thing makes this less than likely. Food, water, and medical supplies would also be a huge issue unless the hospital/home was “purged” of the majority of its residents. Most of these places keep less than a week of food, or meds, and rely on laundry services. They are not going to be all that self sufficient without serious restocking and up armoring.
3.) The lets have everyone sitting around a fire with no guards, and make a ton of noise thing was really bad. If they would have staged it better if wouldn’t have rubbed me the wrong way. The lack of perimeter at the camp seemed out of character even for a group of random people this deep into the zombie take over.
[/quote] I always assumed that the care home wasn’t in the city and they sent out scouting/ raiding/ scavenging parties to obtain the most accessible supplies - hence the run-in with Rick and Co.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote] Robert A wrote:
Maybe I didn’t. Just thought the episode was weak for a bunch of reasons.
From memory:
1.) The Bag of Guns-this is fucking weak at best. In Georgia a bag full of shotguns and a few deer rifles is unlikely to be the huge commodity. Ammo maybe, but a few 870’s, not so much. I get why the “group” would have wanted them, but the city should be fairly full of weapons.
2.) The hospital/retirement home-The “vatos” should either have been over-run, or would have been in a more secure compound. The whole “city is a death trap” thing makes this less than likely. Food, water, and medical supplies would also be a huge issue unless the hospital/home was “purged” of the majority of its residents. Most of these places keep less than a week of food, or meds, and rely on laundry services. They are not going to be all that self sufficient without serious restocking and up armoring.
3.) The lets have everyone sitting around a fire with no guards, and make a ton of noise thing was really bad. If they would have staged it better if wouldn’t have rubbed me the wrong way. The lack of perimeter at the camp seemed out of character even for a group of random people this deep into the zombie take over.
[/quote] I always assumed that the care home wasn’t in the city and they sent out scouting/ raiding/ scavenging parties to obtain the most accessible supplies - hence the run-in with Rick and Co.[/quote]
Well, I will go with that from now on. Makes me move towards liking the episode more. Still, number 4 is the biggie for me.
SPOILER at link
Regards,
Robert A
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote] Robert A wrote:
Maybe I didn’t. Just thought the episode was weak for a bunch of reasons.
From memory:
1.) The Bag of Guns-this is fucking weak at best. In Georgia a bag full of shotguns and a few deer rifles is unlikely to be the huge commodity. Ammo maybe, but a few 870’s, not so much. I get why the “group” would have wanted them, but the city should be fairly full of weapons.
2.) The hospital/retirement home-The “vatos” should either have been over-run, or would have been in a more secure compound. The whole “city is a death trap” thing makes this less than likely. Food, water, and medical supplies would also be a huge issue unless the hospital/home was “purged” of the majority of its residents. Most of these places keep less than a week of food, or meds, and rely on laundry services. They are not going to be all that self sufficient without serious restocking and up armoring.
3.) The lets have everyone sitting around a fire with no guards, and make a ton of noise thing was really bad. If they would have staged it better if wouldn’t have rubbed me the wrong way. The lack of perimeter at the camp seemed out of character even for a group of random people this deep into the zombie take over.
[/quote] I always assumed that the care home wasn’t in the city and they sent out scouting/ raiding/ scavenging parties to obtain the most accessible supplies - hence the run-in with Rick and Co.[/quote]
Well, I will go with that from now on. Makes me move towards liking the episode more. Still, number 4 is the biggie for me.
SPOILER at link
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
I can’t comment on # 4 as I’ve never read the com-books. I’ve done enough reading around to know that there is a gradual shift in morality (which is why I mentioned both Shane’s and Rick’s change into civilian clothes as a move towards that- especially Rick).
I don’t know how the comic explains re-animation, but the explanation given by Jenner at the CDC /bunker seemed to be comprehensive enough to support the deliberate branching off from the comics. Maybe Jenner whispered to Rick that his little demo was a sham, more likely he saw Shane and Lori having a moment and told Rick what he saw. Yep.
I just read a casting note that Rutina Wesley (Tara from True Blood) has been cast as Michonne. If that shit is true, I am done with TWD. She is high up on the list of people that make me want to break my television.
[quote]borrek wrote:
I just read a casting note that Rutina Wesley (Tara from True Blood) has been cast as Michonne. If that shit is true, I am done with TWD. She is high up on the list of people that make me want to break my television.[/quote]
Never watched True Blood.
Why do you not like her?
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote] Robert A wrote:
Maybe I didn’t. Just thought the episode was weak for a bunch of reasons.
From memory:
1.) The Bag of Guns-this is fucking weak at best. In Georgia a bag full of shotguns and a few deer rifles is unlikely to be the huge commodity. Ammo maybe, but a few 870’s, not so much. I get why the “group” would have wanted them, but the city should be fairly full of weapons.
2.) The hospital/retirement home-The “vatos” should either have been over-run, or would have been in a more secure compound. The whole “city is a death trap” thing makes this less than likely. Food, water, and medical supplies would also be a huge issue unless the hospital/home was “purged” of the majority of its residents. Most of these places keep less than a week of food, or meds, and rely on laundry services. They are not going to be all that self sufficient without serious restocking and up armoring.
3.) The lets have everyone sitting around a fire with no guards, and make a ton of noise thing was really bad. If they would have staged it better if wouldn’t have rubbed me the wrong way. The lack of perimeter at the camp seemed out of character even for a group of random people this deep into the zombie take over.
[/quote] I always assumed that the care home wasn’t in the city and they sent out scouting/ raiding/ scavenging parties to obtain the most accessible supplies - hence the run-in with Rick and Co.[/quote]
Well, I will go with that from now on. Makes me move towards liking the episode more. Still, number 4 is the biggie for me.
SPOILER at link
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
I can’t comment on # 4 as I’ve never read the com-books. I’ve done enough reading around to know that there is a gradual shift in morality (which is why I mentioned both Shane’s and Rick’s change into civilian clothes as a move towards that- especially Rick).
I don’t know how the comic explains re-animation, but the explanation given by Jenner at the CDC /bunker seemed to be comprehensive enough to support the deliberate branching off from the comics. Maybe Jenner whispered to Rick that his little demo was a sham, more likely he saw Shane and Lori having a moment and told Rick what he saw. Yep.[/quote]
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Shane is killed off very early on in the book and Rick actually goes back to where they buried to kill him because he Shane comes back as a zombie.