The UN vs. Israel

[quote]Hawkson101 wrote:

  1. 1948
    a. Israel is granted to the Jews after agitation. Jewish militarism is unacceptable and regretful.
    b. Palestinians, and the surrounding countries fight Israelis. There is no ‘exponentially stronger force’. Israel wins bc of better coordination because of having to fight in WWII for the allies.

  2. 1967 Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon put their tanks on the border and prepare for war. War edict is issued but Israel overhears code for war and strikes first.
    War was started by the ARABS.

  3. Israel won in 48 by conventional military means. War is War and no one really wins. 60 years later, Palestinians are using terrorism to try to win it back. Terrorist organizations vow the destruction of Israel.

Israel defends itself with walls and tanks. Defend is the key word, because it has no interest in killing or attacking. Israel wants peace. Again

Israel wants peace

the arabs want destruction

Israel wants peace[/quote]

*“Israel is granted to the Jews”

Granted to the Jews by WHO exactly?

*“War edict is issued but Israel overhears code for war and strikes first.
War was started by the ARABS.”

That statement speaks for itself.

*“Israel defends itself with walls and tanks.”

And this wall is where?

Israel shocked by image of soldiers forcing Palestinian violinist to play at roadblock
Yoram Kaniuk, author of a book about a Jewish violinist forced to play for a concentration camp commander, wrote in Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper that the soldiers responsible should be put on trial “not for abusing Arabs but for disgracing the Holocaust”.

[quote]lixy wrote:
The Israeli people want peace.
Their government don’t.[/quote]

Therein lies the bigger picture. The average Israeli Jew is fixing to become fodder for the larger Zionist agenda.

Israel the third temple and the coming Jewish holocaust

Fundamentalism’s Bloody Homeland for Jews
If Jews do not return to the State of Israel, to be concentrated inside its borders, then the prophecy of a final Great Tribulation, where Jerusalem is surrounded by its enemies, cannot be fulfilled…

This is why they [Christians] support the Zionist movement. The Zionists have made the dispensationalists’ interpretation of the Great Tribulation prophecy appear tenable. Zionists have created a nation-state for Jews in Palestine…

The world’s Jews, except for a few million in the United States, are being be lured back into the prophetic trap…

What the hell are you talking about?

The palestinians DO NOT WANT PEACE

they have been offered their own country a number of times. The stipulation being ‘they can’t have control of Jerusalem’

Every time, they have said no. That is not enough. So they pull away from the table. Their demands are 1-we want jerusalem, and sometimes 2-Israel can not exist.

Israel has offered everything but their existence and Jerusalem. They have said no. The fight continues. The palestinians bomb busses while lixy claims they want peace.

If they wanted peace they would have taken the state. They are not going to get Jerusalem. They don’t want peace. They want exterminate the jews.

[quote]Hawkson101 wrote:
If they wanted peace they would have taken the state. [/quote]

Have you seen the proposition made to them by the tandem US/Israel? It’s not a state, it’s a few spots scattered around with no roads to connect them. Israel demands control of the to-be Palestinian state in every single proposal. Israel keeps control of all the water. They want to control the borders. Israel does not want the Palestinians state to devellop an army. They don’t accept the right for refugees to return to their homelands as clearly specified by the UN.

Have you seen the serious propositions approved by the international community and rejected by virtually noone else but the US and Israel?

It’s dishonest to say that Israel wants peace. Or misinformed…