the un fucking believable!!!

Ahh Invaders,
Once again you’ve come up short trying to be Mr. Tough Guy. My whole post and your ONLY response is “I have no respect for people who use steroids”. Well my friend, I don’t really care who you have respect for. I didn’t ask you to respect anyone steroids or not. What I said was that you cannot get that big from steroids alone. You seem to have skipped right over that point huh? Hard to argue that point maybe?
No one here cares whether or not you respect them. No one here cares if you respect steroids. We’re simply stating that Coleman and other athletes that choose to use still have to train hard. Feel free to post until your blue in the face about being anti-steroid. It matters not. The intelligent users on this site know you can’t take away the dedication and work it takes to be a great and instead just shove a needle in your ass.
Until next time, enjoy reading the site and feeling that your one of the “T-Men”. Enjoy responding to any and all posts as long as they’re not training related. I’m sure months from now we’ll be checking your post history to see more posts on President Bush, hockey, Cell Phone Cheating, and oh look here, the “Alpha Male” label. I’m sure you wouldn’t take that supplement would you? Cause one day the gov’t might just make that illegal like dem steeroits.

Invaders and everyone else who thinks drugs are everything to a bodybuilder, you are full of shit! Probably never done a cycle in your life. I’ve taken heavy quantites of steroids and I haven’t even been able to reach 200 fuckin’ lbs! I guess genetics and all OTHER VARIABLES are just as important or even more! PPPlease!!! C’mon stop with this non sense. It’s almost like saying that Barry Bonds wouldn’t hit as many home runs without juice.

Peace.
k.

From Ronniecoleman.com

Nutrition
Over the years I have received numerous questions about how to add mass to one’s frame. To put on mass can be a painstaking task for some. I have found that the following things can help a great deal with adding mass to the frame.

Eat, eat and eat some more
To add strength and mass, try to consume four to six meals a day. Choose from a variety of food groups at mealtime. Try to include lots of potatoes, rice, pasta, fruits and vegetables.
Make sure you are eating enough. A low fat diet and avoiding refined foods are good, but it won’t help you build mass. On the same note you don’t want to eat a high fat diet all the time. Fat provides additional calories, the fat-souluble vitamins A, D, E and K and raw materials for important hormones that stimulate muscle growth.
Monitor the amount of mass you are gaining. Measure your body parts and weigh every week to see if you are going in the right direction.
Lastly, continue to train hard. And remember gaining mass won’t happen overnight

Some real good advice there from Ronnie!

Ok haktONE then answer me this if Ronnie Coleman didn’t take steroids and STILL busted his ass training,would he be as big as he is? Don’t think so! Oh and btw you are jusst so informative on your posts there Tough Guy!

hackONE,
How could you possibly impregnate your wife over there in Cherry Hill when your “willy” is so shriveled up? OOps she forgot to tell you that’s my kid.

And again you skip the important points if favor of a personal attack that sounds like an 8 year old. Drop the insults bud, you don’t know me, never have, so the effort to insult me, my wife, or my daughter just ain’t gonna happen, I left 6th grade a long time ago.
To answer your first post, I’ve already agreed with you that if Coleman didn’t do 'roids he wouldn’t be as big as he is. There’s no question of that. Once again I’ll state for you the point many of us here are making. Although he wouldn’t be as big if he didn’t take 'roids, that doesn’t take away from the fact that he STILL has to bust his ass to look the way he does.
To answer your second post, your reading comprehension needs help. I’m not sure where you read that I’ve used steroids but I haven’t. I’ve still managed to bust my ass to a 6’6 315lbs physique. And yes I’ve posted a pic on the site before. (Funny I haven’t seen yours) Have I thought about using? Absolutely. But what’s hysterical is that by using now, after I built to the level that I’m at, you see me and blame it on the drugs. You’d have no idea that I trained for 15 years to get to the point where even putting 1/4 inch on my arms or chest was hard. I’ve hit my potential as far as natural goes. If I decide to use it’ll be my own personal choice and I won’t feel I’ve cheated. If that loses me the respect of people I don’t know, who cares?

i’m interested in this claim of 800 lb deadlifts for 8-10 reps…thats unbelievable, and by unbelievable i mean not believable.

invaders, this topic has been covered so many times before you’re going to have a real hard time finding support for your argument. not a flame, just move on and stop digging yourself deeper into your hole

i have one very simple question. why the fuck do the people that are opposed to anabolics and very uninformed on the topic come to TESTOSTERONE mag?

seriously, if you havent noticed t-mag has a steroid forum. that would lead most to believe that some people here just might be using. why would you come to a site that has steroid articles and information and spew uninformed thoughts from your mouth?

im sure the boys over on richardsimmons.com would be happy to have you criticize bodybuilders with them.

lumberjak: I read it at flexonline.com that this year he deadlifted 800 for 8 to 10 reps… GH anyone? I think he must have a very good doctor working with him… He deadlifted 800 for 2 reps ripped to the bone 5 weeks out from the olympia, so 800 for 8 reps isn’t that unbelievable when he’s “offseason” and 310-320 pounds…
But yeah, I’d pay to see that too…

lumburjak
yeah but it’s really fun fucking with the steeroid assholes and seeing how their panties get all in a bunch when you criticize there beloved juice! Yeah we’re soooooooooo big and strong an stuff doin’ r gh an roid’s!!!

1st if you never took shit then shut the hell up!

I’d say drugs do make a huge difference.
However if I’m on and your on there is no difference except for training, diet, dedication…and all that other stuff.

Someone mentioned that Ronnie would be 220 and deadlift 400 if he was drug free. Well I don’t think that’s too far from the truth I’m sure he would be stronger but 220-230 sounds about right.
Even that is a lot. I don’t know one person that carries 200+ pounds of muscle drug free. The most lean mass I ever had was around was 198lbs I was 215 and about 8%…That by the way lasted about one week.

Drugs make a difference for sure but you still have to work VERY VERY hard to reach Ronnies level.
JA

Invader

I hope you never used Effidrine.
Now that stuff is illegal so I don’t respect anyone who has ever taken it because there gains or fatloss are not natural.

If steroids were legal would you use them?

Do you like pro sports and respect pro athletes?

Have you ever used Pro hormones?

What about BCAA’s?

Or creatine?

Where do we draw the line?

If the answer is yes to either of those questions then FUCKOFF!

The fact is steroids are not all that harmful. They are actually much more helpful then hurtful.

I have no respect for people that drink protein shakes…Without that they would be nothing.

JA

Good post P-Dog.

lol wow, this forum went to how is the video, to what role steroids play lol honestly, this is no offense to any anti-steroid guys, but whats the deal? someone takes steroids, big deal. i could understand if u dont want to use them urself, as i plan to stay natural my whole life, (im only 16 by the way) but i absolutely lovethe bigass freaky physiques of today, such as ronnie, gunter, markus ruhl, kevin levrone, etc…, thats what the people want, and thats what they shall get. i cant wait to see ronnie at the next olympia, he was what? 287 at the recent one? just imagine when he comes in at like 320, rock solid, veins around his fucking asshole hes so ripped! that will be great. (not his asshole, just seeing him that huge)

p.s. i was going to download the video on kazaa, but that is alot of fucking space, and id rather watch it on my tv.

rock solid, veins around his fucking asshole hes so ripped! that will be great.

Hahahahaha! OMG, I almost spit food all over my screen! LOL

Invaders, if you haven’t taken juice it’s your own decision. For those of us who choose to use it is also our business. Please do us all a favor and take P-Dog’s advice, make educated comments on the topic. If you’ve never done and don’t have real life experience, then get your ass to the articles here at T-Mag and do some reading. Educate your ignorant ass!

k.

I was about to post something similiar to what JackAss said, but he summed it all up perfectly. You can’t call a drug “bad” just because it’s “illegal.”

That’s ignorant.

has neone ever seen dorian yates:blood and guts?

shit, i forgot to add either of Lee Priest’s vids, the blonde myth and another blonde myth.