? Zraw isn’t the average person on here claiming they compete.
Also, all of the guys I know who pull the most ass…DON’T EVEN WORKOUT REGULARLY.[/quote]
Stronghold, c’mon, man. That’s weak and you know it. I don’t mean to swing too much from PX’s bag, but I agree that dudes I’ve known who got/get laid the most didn’t(don’t) even lift, or didn’t(don’t) seriously lift.
Zraw – dude, you are sexy, no doubt, brother-- I don’t mean to discredit anything you’ve done which is incredible. So, kudos.
n=many – Discussions with females who think competition lean BB’ers are disgusting.
Think about it-- even with dudes, there are boob men, fat ass men, leg men. Dudes with abs are physically attractive to women who like abs, and that’s really all you can say about it.
Me? I love redheads personally. Married a french-canadian descent brunette.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
It’s a dumb conversation. Not all women like the same thing and most of the guys I have ever known who were true “players” didn’t even lift.
Women go for “talk” and “image” more than muscles. if they didn’t, we wouldn’t have so many ugly kids walking around.[/quote]
No one has ever said anything contrary to this.
What is being stated is “WITH ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL” would most women prefer a very muscular and lean man or a very muscular and chubby man?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
It’s a dumb conversation. Not all women like the same thing and most of the guys I have ever known who were true “players” didn’t even lift.
Women go for “talk” and “image” more than muscles. if they didn’t, we wouldn’t have so many ugly kids walking around.[/quote]
No one has ever said anything contrary to this.
What is being stated is “WITH ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL” would most women prefer a very muscular and lean man or a very muscular and chubby man?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
It’s a dumb conversation. Not all women like the same thing and most of the guys I have ever known who were true “players” didn’t even lift.
Women go for “talk” and “image” more than muscles. if they didn’t, we wouldn’t have so many ugly kids walking around.[/quote]
No one has ever said anything contrary to this.
What is being stated is “WITH ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL” would most women prefer a very muscular and lean man or a very muscular and chubby man?[/quote]
Some women like guys with pot bellies. You didn’t know this?
Some like guys with muscle and a little more fat. I very rarely see a woman who demands most of the guys she sleeps with be “NEAR CONTEST SHAPE” since most don’t even know what that is.
The average woman would HATE the amount of time someone like that would have to spend in the gym more than anything.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
It’s a dumb conversation. Not all women like the same thing and most of the guys I have ever known who were true “players” didn’t even lift.
Women go for “talk” and “image” more than muscles. if they didn’t, we wouldn’t have so many ugly kids walking around.[/quote]
No one has ever said anything contrary to this.
What is being stated is “WITH ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL” would most women prefer a very muscular and lean man or a very muscular and chubby man?[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
It’s a dumb conversation. Not all women like the same thing and most of the guys I have ever known who were true “players” didn’t even lift.
Women go for “talk” and “image” more than muscles. if they didn’t, we wouldn’t have so many ugly kids walking around.[/quote]
No one has ever said anything contrary to this.
What is being stated is “WITH ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL” would most women prefer a very muscular and lean man or a very muscular and chubby man?[/quote]
Here’s another perspective.
“Who carez wut bitchez thinkz?”
Now, I’m just quoting that, I don’t know who ever would have said such a thing.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
It’s a dumb conversation. Not all women like the same thing and most of the guys I have ever known who were true “players” didn’t even lift.
Women go for “talk” and “image” more than muscles. if they didn’t, we wouldn’t have so many ugly kids walking around.[/quote]
No one has ever said anything contrary to this.
What is being stated is “WITH ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL” would most women prefer a very muscular and lean man or a very muscular and chubby man?[/quote]
Here’s another perspective.
“Who carez wut bitchez thinkz?”
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Virtually everyone in the world. (Perhaps not some gay men)
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Some women like guys with pot bellies. You didn’t know this?
Some like guys with muscle and a little more fat. I very rarely see a woman who demands most of the guys she sleeps with be “NEAR CONTEST SHAPE” since most don’t even know what that is.
The average woman would HATE the amount of time someone like that would have to spend in the gym more than anything.
[/quote]
Show me a woman who prefers a man with a “pot belly” over the same exact man without one and I will show you a liar.
I don’t know 1 or 2. It’s totally made up and hypothetical, right? In your mind, obviously it’s abs. In mine, maybe not.
My wife said something out of the blue the other day about my physique. I’m not an ab model. She likes her men beefy-- I don’t mean obese, I mean big and strong looking.
I showed here som pics on here of various folks and while I won’t name names, she laughed at some of the avatars and posted pics of people who have competed saying “THAT’S ‘big’ and ‘muscular’? They just look like their skinny” (to be fair, I clarified that by ‘skinny’ she meant ‘lean’ – yes, she meant lean, but not ‘big and muscular’)
Of course, that’s my n=1 personal anecdote, so I’m not claiming that she speaks for all women or anyone but herself. Plus I got laid last night.[/quote]
natty, in competition, pics? I don’t know many women that like in competition physiques. There is certainly a middle ground i think. Off season guys normally look pretty good.
My wife certainly likes me better where I am now.
The only skinny comments I get are in reference to my former size. New people I meet think I’m pretty big.
I had a guy in the office ask what hobbies I had the other day. I responded, “I like to train a lot”. He’s response was “No shit” in a sarcastic tone.
I do look a lot smaller if I wear old baggy “clown” pants. But, in my new pants my wife gets mad at all the women checking me out nowadays.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Some women like guys with pot bellies. You didn’t know this?
Some like guys with muscle and a little more fat. I very rarely see a woman who demands most of the guys she sleeps with be “NEAR CONTEST SHAPE” since most don’t even know what that is.
The average woman would HATE the amount of time someone like that would have to spend in the gym more than anything.
[/quote]
Show me a woman who prefers a man with a “pot belly” over the same exact man without one and I will show you a liar.[/quote]
? Some women hate the idea of a man who is in better shape than them.
Women don’t think like you. They are looking for someone who fulfills fantasies and makes them feel comfortable and safe. That is what they base that decision on.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
They are looking for someone who fulfills fantasies and makes them feel comfortable and safe. That is what they base that decision on.[/quote]
I completely agree and have never said anything contrary to this.
But to say that women would prefer someone who does all this things to have a “pot belly” over the same person who does all those things but doesn’t have a pot belly is laughable IMO.
I AM NOT talking about contest lean bodybuilder or anything like that. Just pot belly vs no lot belly.
But to say that women would prefer someone who does all this things to have a “pot belly” over the same person who does all those things but doesn’t have a pot belly is laughable IMO.
.[/quote]
It isn’t laughable at all. The pot bellied guy may make them feel ok for their “late night ice cream fetish” or whatever other deep motives they have.
You sound young. Women are way more cerebral than men so even sitting here claiming we all know what they want physically is what is laughable.
But to say that women would prefer someone who does all this things to have a “pot belly” over the same person who does all those things but doesn’t have a pot belly is laughable IMO.
.[/quote]
It isn’t laughable at all. The pot bellied guy may make them feel ok for their “late night ice cream fetish” or whatever other deep motives they have.
You sound young. Women are way more cerebral than men so even sitting here claiming we all know what they want physically is what is laughable.[/quote]
The same guy could make her feel ok for their “late night ice cream fetish” without having a pot belly.
You are skirting around the real issue while doing what you always do. I am not going to get into this further with you.
Maybe women where you live actually do prefer their man to have a pot belly but I doubt that is really the case.
The same guy could make her feel ok for their “late night ice cream fetish” without having a pot belly.
You are skirting around the real issue while doing what you always do. I am not going to get into this further with you.
Maybe women where you live actually do prefer their man to have a pot belly but I doubt that is really the case.
Agree to disagree.[/quote]
?? Most women are NOT dating or fucking really built guys…so obviously, most women are not even looking for that because of how rare it is to see someone huge with a six pack as well outside of a football player or maybe a boxer or bouncer.
That means lifting just for what women want would mean most of us would be done within 1 year of training.
I think your perspective of women is way off. Yes, there are women who would go for the pot bellied guy simply because they assume he won’t judge them. I am also not talking about some HUGE obese fucker but someone who has the basic shape they desire but maybe a little extra pudge in the midsection. I already know some of you will relate this to some doofus with a 50" waist or bigger.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Some women like guys with pot bellies. You didn’t know this?
Some like guys with muscle and a little more fat. I very rarely see a woman who demands most of the guys she sleeps with be “NEAR CONTEST SHAPE” since most don’t even know what that is.
The average woman would HATE the amount of time someone like that would have to spend in the gym more than anything.
[/quote]
Show me a woman who prefers a man with a “pot belly” over the same exact man without one and I will show you a liar.[/quote]