The Scott Report

It’s 45 (50 total) done over the course of the day. That particular day, I ended up doing a set of 20, then 5, then 10, then 5 and 5 again, with some supersets with dips as I cleaned up the garage and got it set up for the next days workout.

I used a variety of grips, since I have a multigrip set up.

I read “The New HIT”. Got it from a bargain basement sale at a Borders, back when that was a thing. Also familiar with Darden and Jones from the works of Paul Kelso and Pavel Tsastouline.

So are we talking dead hang to face near the bar chins?
Scott

When I was trying to do just one chin a few months ago I was working around the house and I’d go to the chin bar and try a chin or do a negative chin or a jump up assisted chin through out the day maybe 10 times. After a few days of that and no other workout I actually did a chin, in fact that day I did about 5 chins with a half hour or more between tries. When I went back to my usual 3 days a week regular workout it was no time before I couldn’t do a chin again.
Scott

Typically chin to bar, if not chin over bar. No dead hang, as those are stupid. I maintain tension in the lats and go to full ROM without using momentum.

Quite amazing!
Scott

I appreciate that. I’ll actually regularly manage 100+ in a dedicated workout, and have a training block coming up where that will be a requirement (5/3/1 Building the Monolith).

Lots of chins have always been great for building a solid back.

Hi, Scott. Welcome. I was pretty big into AJ, Dr. Darden and HIT back in the mid 00’s. I have the New HIT and had the Modern Bodybuilding (can’t find it now), plus read And God Laughs. I haven’t done HIT workouts in years, though.

I very distantly knew of Darden through my older cousins back when I was just a little squirt. Back when Arnold, Lou Ferrigno, and Franco Columbu were on Johnny Carson. I’ve also used a bunch of the nautilus equipment but never knew it’s origin story.

I didn’t know much of anything about who or what or where anything came from because I was on wrestling teams and coached from early on, and there was really only one person (well, coach & assistant coach) telling you what to do. And if you knew what’s good for you, you do exactly what you were told to do immediately and without question.

I did tell the coach from a school I transferred to why his system sucked and why we as a team were losing so many matches, but that resulted in an actual ass kicking, hours of drills and eventually being kicked off the team.

I’ve never really been into Hit, but can appreciate this lineages contribution to manipulating time under tension, and seeing the what’s and how’s of its application.

I like theories and all that, but I’ve always gravitated towards application.

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Darden is actually what brought me to this forum. I’m a big fan of the writings of he, Arthur Jones, and Mike Mentzer. I enjoy learning about other people’s training even if I have no interest in training in the same style as they do. It’s been cool learning about Jim Windler’s 5/3/1 and Christian Thibaudeau! I actually bought Thib’s Best Workout Plan for Natural Lifters ebook and will probably try it out and log it this summer after 30-10-30. I’m definitely a HIT guy, but learning about the experiences and training styles of other lifters has been very cool for me.

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Hey Pwinisher , I’ve been trying to find where we left off when we were fussing for days mow but I can’t find didly squat on here . Can we start over and can you try and explain how I would start off training everyday if I suddenly decided to give it a try? By the way I think I’m a Neuro type 3 ? Maybe that’s bad news for training everyday ?
Thanks
Scott

“It all started when I was born…”

Not to speak for him, but I think it takes years of physical and psychological conditioning to reach that state.

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I honestly don’t recall us fussing, but in any capacity, I can’t advise how YOU would start off training, as I’m not a coach and have had no hands on experience with you, so offering such perspective would be wholly irresponsible and operating well outside my grasp. However, when I start daily training, I stick with bodyweight movements and avoid external loads (outside of using VERY light bands) and stay away from failure. I’m a fan of dips, chins, ab wheel, glute ham raises and bodyweight reverse hyper extensions. Band pull aparts are big as well: I think everyone should do those. They’re awesome for the shoulders.

I’d pick a rep goal for the day and see how I respond to hitting that daily. If it doesn’t impact my main training and recovery, I’ll slightly push the rep total up until I start seeing impacts, at which point I’ll scale back a few reps and call it good. Once that happens, I just make it my goal to hit that total daily somehow. Over the course of weeks, months and years, those reps all add up, especially on top of my non-daily training.

I have no knowledge about Neuro Types. I’m a Scorpio myself.

Since I was a caesarean, I like to claim I was never born, haha.

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== Scott==
I’m not sure what you mean by impacting your main training? Are you adding the everyday stuff to a separate routine like a three times a week routine?

Given your training methods, I wonder if the doctors administered the c section or you just juggernauted your way out of there…

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I’ve told you I’m doing that several times :slight_smile: Not only did I do that, but @jshaving explained that all to you here

In my training, I have a deadlift day, a press day, a squat day and a bench day. On those days, those lifts are the focus, along with the assistance work that supports those lifts. On top of that main work, I have daily training I do.

I also have conditioning focused training days. One is based around the front squat, and is done immediately after the squat focused day. Others can be running based, prowler based, boxing based, etc.

I couldn’t find this part. So what you are saying is I could possibly continue some form of what I’m doing now with the addition of some extra exercises everyday and depending on if those extra exercises cause a problem or not I could continue them and very slowly increase them or cut back on them? Please bare with me , I’m slow on the uptake of this.
Scott

Once again, no, I am NOT saying that YOU can possibly do this. I do not have the ability to say what you can or cannot do. All I can say is what has worked for me.

For me, during periods of weight gain, I add in daily training to maximize the impact of my nutrition. When I drop calories, the daily training is one of the first things to go.

So where did you learn how to do what you do ? Is there a trainer or group or web page that you follow where you learned how to do this ?
Thanks
Scott

I’ve been training for 21 years. The longest break I’ve ever taken from training was 6 days: I had ruptured my ACL, tore my meniscus and fractured my patella in a strongman competition, and needed to let all the blood flood out of my knee so I could bend it enough to do some box squats. I’ve had a LOT of opportunities to learn from experience and find out what works for me.

I’ve read from a lot of authors and tried out a lot of methods too. I’d say Jon Andersen’s Deep Water method is the most aligned with how I do things, and I really appreciated his work, but Jim Wendler has also been a stellar influence in programming. I’m a fan of Jamie Lewis and Steve Pulcinella as well, and I think all lifters, no matter what their goals are, owe it to themselves to read “Powerlifting Basics Texas Style” by Paul Kelso (I know @dagill2 and @kdjohn would echo that sentiment). Dan John is another fantastic contributor to the Iron Game, and is actually someone that would vouch VERY much for daily training (check out his “Easy Strength” article here

Dan, in turn, got some influence from Pavel Tsastouline regarding easy strength, who was also the author of “Power to the People” that was ALSO a daily approach to training that many found success with.

I’ve stolen from Dave Tate on a few things, who basically can make Louie Simmons digestable. I remain a big fan of Kroczaleski as well, although, in truth, Kroc’s specific approach to programming never gelled with me.

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