Thank you!
Scott
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I echo all these sentiments. My big learning on this front was that everything works, but not everything works for me. There’s a million ways to lift weights and make progress, but I don’t have the mindset to make all of them work for me and my goals.
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Scott, what machines do u currently have
2 pullovers , plate loader and super, BNTA, plate loading bi -tri, lateral machine, stand alone alone behind neck . Rowing torso, seated row , ab clam, double chest, lower back, multi bicep, exercise bikes, erg, pull-up dip stand , Pully pulldown , leg extension, leg curl.
Scott
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You have basically a full gym! Very impressive! It’s got to be easy to stay motivated with all that great equipment at home.
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I love how positive you are mate. Hope you stick around.
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Thank you so much! I sure plan to! I love the energy of this place and it sure keeps me motivated to train!
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So I’ve been slowing down after 3 months on 30 10 30 so I decided to take a break from it and try my version of X Force. I loaded around 40 % more on my lateral , double chest press , tricep ext and pushdown machines and had my son help me up with the concentric just a little and I slowly let it down on the eccentric . Tomorrow we’ll see if I’m sore at all?
Scott
I never have a problem being motivated to workout .
Scott
I’m very interested in hearing what you think of this and how your muscles and recovery feel tomorrow!
Can’t wait to hear of your results
Hello Scott, how long have you been training with HIT principles ?
So far I don’t feel any different than after my usual 30 10 30 ? I guess that’s a good statement for 30 10 30 because doing my home version of X Force really felt heavy and exhausting. Maybe it takes two days to feel it?
Scott
I’ve been training for some 50 years off and on and Until recently I’ve trained to failure doing roughly 2 sets of roughly 6 or 7 exercises roughly twice a week . In that time I’ve experimented with many different routines but I found I liked two sets of exercises to failure the best. I made my best gains doing 3 sets to failure doing 30 15 6 reps with a slight cheat but I found that was hard on the joints.
That’s a lot of experience !
With all your knowledge, don’t you think that, at your age, it can be benificial for you to train not to failure using 2 to 4 sets and using double progression ?
I would wager that 30-10-30 may be a more efficient way to the same kind of stimulus. Less help involved from others and lighter loads. Here’s something Darden has in the new book and that’s cycling between 30-10-30 and 10-30(just removing the first 30 second negative and increasing resistance by 5%) every other session. You train 4 days a week, so that would give you 2 sessions of each. Slightly different stimulus and one that may be more conducive to recovery. I’m interested in how that may suit you!
Just wondering what your actual training week looks like. Do you have a general outline on how you train, how many days, what you’re doing on each, etc.? Or do you just play it by ear every time you workout?
What’d you do in your most recent workout?
You were talking about trying a bunch of daily pull-ups for a bit but they were affecting your recovery for the main workouts. How many good reps of pull-ups can you actually do right now?
As I slowed down making progress on my 30 10 30 I took two days off . Then I tried doing random chins efforts and negative chins spaced through out the day for two days which amounted to about 15 efforts spaced through out the day . The 3rd day I felt exhausted so I did nothing . Then I had to work a lot in the yard the next day so I was doubly exhausted. As a break from 30 10 30 I decided to try some new stuff. Next I tried my version of XForce by adding 40% weight and my son helping me with the concentric part and me lowering it. That wasn’t any harder than 30 10 30 but a pain to do. Then I decided to try something different like stage reps for a workout which I’d never tried before. I wasn’t thrilled with how they felt. Yesterday I did my old 30 10 30 push routine just to see where I stood at this point and I was just about where I left off. My next workout I may just try 8-15 reps to failure which I haven’t tried in months. Right now I’m feeling kind of lost and not sure what to do next?
Keep in mind I don’t ever do dead lifts, bench or overhead press or squats. I’m pretty much stuck on using my machines good or bad.
Pullover
Lateral machine
Seated row
Torso row
Bi tri compound
BNTA
Tri extension
Tri Push down
Leg extension
Free squats
Exercise bike
I wrote this all up on another thread but I do push -pull with a day off between each.
How many pull-ups can I do now! Very funny! Not a one! I read how that punisher guy says he can do 50 chins ( interspersed through out the day) on his off day and they are easy ! When I see that I just want to throw in the towel ! For more inspiration type in www . Pathetic, ha ha!
Scott
He’s been working towards this for 20 years, man. Even if you’ve been lifting for longer, if you haven’t made this specific movement a priority, then it goes to show that you wouldn’t be as good at it. It’s only “easy” because of everything he has done and currently does.
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Sounds like a good time to experiment to me.
I’m sure someone somewhere thinks this about all of us dude, don’t be discouraged. Compare yourself to the whole population, not just the ones on this site.
I remember the transition from all machine based training to “free weights” for myself, and it was pretty eye opening. They are quite different skills, due to the stabilisation, coordination etc. etc. These are things that can be picked up pretty quickly (compared to actual strength), if that’s the direction you felt you wanted to go.
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