[quote]giterdone wrote:
So with also the Zercher love goin’ on here I figured I would try them.
Much respect Mr. Albino…I worked up to 295 x 2 from pins, thighs parallel and thought I was going to blow a vessel. I like 'em.[/quote]
They are something else. I think the cool thing about them is that nobody is specifically constructed to do them well - as they can be for deadlifts or squats. The zercher is right in the nasty middle of both and improves both.
[quote]DaCharmingAlbino wrote:
giterdone wrote:
So with also the Zercher love goin’ on here I figured I would try them.
Much respect Mr. Albino…I worked up to 295 x 2 from pins, thighs parallel and thought I was going to blow a vessel. I like 'em.
They are something else. I think the cool thing about them is that nobody is specifically constructed to do them well - as they can be for deadlifts or squats. The zercher is right in the nasty middle of both and improves both.[/quote]
Agreed. Also, for me I prefer them to front squats as I can move more weight (not back squat level but I should get there with some consistency) and they are still easy on the low back. No problem to do RDLs after these (315 x 6 today) which is a movement I normally would not do after heavy back squats.
I really need to work on my strength. You and a couple other dudes have been an inspiration to work on the numbers and the size will follow. I mean, if an old guy like you can do it how hard can it be…I kid. Gracias for the log.
[quote]giterdone wrote:
DaCharmingAlbino wrote:
giterdone wrote:
So with also the Zercher love goin’ on here I figured I would try them.
Much respect Mr. Albino…I worked up to 295 x 2 from pins, thighs parallel and thought I was going to blow a vessel. I like 'em.
They are something else. I think the cool thing about them is that nobody is specifically constructed to do them well - as they can be for deadlifts or squats. The zercher is right in the nasty middle of both and improves both.
Agreed. Also, for me I prefer them to front squats as I can move more weight (not back squat level but I should get there with some consistency) and they are still easy on the low back. No problem to do RDLs after these (315 x 6 today) which is a movement I normally would not do after heavy back squats.
I really need to work on my strength. You and a couple other dudes have been an inspiration to work on the numbers and the size will follow. I mean, if an old guy like you can do it how hard can it be…I kid. Gracias for the log.[/quote]
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
here’s a little trick that i used to use on things like squats when the weight freaked me out a bit- right before a big squat attempt i would load the bar up with an extra 90 to 180lbs. then i would unrack it and walk it out. i would then stand there for a moment to really feel the weight. then i would walk it back to the hooks. i would rest just enough to get the weight back to my full ROM attempt. it ALWAYS felt much lighter and my confidence was high.
just give it a try…[/quote]
Ooo. I really like this idea. I’m going to try it Friday.
2009-8-10
Overhead Pin PRess (Pin 15 - top of forehead)
barx15
135x5
160x3
180x3
200x2
220x1,1,1 (PR +5 lbs)
200x5 (PR + 5 Lbs)
Deadlift
w/u SLDL 135x8, 225x5
DL
315x3
405x3
455x1
515x1
Wide stance GM to parallel
260 5x2sets (PR +5 lbs)
CLean Grip Low pulls
315 3x3 sets
Hang Snatches
135 4x2 sets
Ab wheel
Knees 15x2 sets
Standing 8x1 set
Face pulls
55x20
Done. DL was good and I came out of it healthier than in the past. Back’s a little sore and I can’t keep an arch when the weight gets heavier, but I got it done. I think some narrow stance GM’s will help but I might have to drop weight.
[quote]LittleStrick wrote:
jjackkrash wrote:
Great pull. Looks like you and LS are at DEFCON 1 on the deadlift armsrace.
If that is the case, I am getting my ass handed to me…lol.
Sweet deadlift DCA! And there was more in the tank! I knew the whole “make ME do 500” talk was just an excuse :)[/quote]
Well that’s the weird thing - it looked kinda fast on the vid, but felt really slow and it feels like my lower back is going to tear off my hips as the bar moves from midshin to just above my knees. That interval feels like forever. That was the best it’s felt in a while doing a heavy conventional DL though.
Just watched it again. I see where you’re talking about but it still looked really strong. There seemed to be no doubt in your mind that you were going to pull it. I wish I could approach maxes like that. They always intimidate me. Fear of failure me thinks.
This time I watched it with the volume on. Thanks for the guttural sounds. Makes me feel better about myself…
very strong pull and press there Pale One. it’s amazing how much faster a lift is in real life. I always feel so damn slow and then i watch the vid and it always moves much faster than i think.
you definitely left some in the tank on both of those.
also… in the overhead press vid, i detected some facial scruff going on. a thick goatee adds AT LEAST 10% to any lift.
as for that transition on the deadlift, pulling against minibands are the shit for that. very easy to set up and the bands are, like, $12 at elitefts.com
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
very strong pull and press there Pale One. it’s amazing how much faster a lift is in real life. I always feel so damn slow and then i watch the vid and it always moves much faster than i think.
you definitely left some in the tank on both of those.
also… in the overhead press vid, i detected some facial scruff going on. a thick goatee adds AT LEAST 10% to any lift.
as for that transition on the deadlift, pulling against minibands are the shit for that. very easy to set up and the bands are, like, $12 at elitefts.com[/quote]
If a goatee adds at least 10%, does a full beard add more or less? Might be time to modify the face fur!?
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
very strong pull and press there Pale One. it’s amazing how much faster a lift is in real life. I always feel so damn slow and then i watch the vid and it always moves much faster than i think.
you definitely left some in the tank on both of those.
also… in the overhead press vid, i detected some facial scruff going on. a thick goatee adds AT LEAST 10% to any lift.
as for that transition on the deadlift, pulling against minibands are the shit for that. very easy to set up and the bands are, like, $12 at elitefts.com[/quote]
Thanks Meat. I’m purposely going submaximal, between 90-95%. I knew I could do more on both lifts, but I want clean and crisp reps as much as possible and not to tear myself up while stimulating recruitment and growth. Seems to be working as I’m consistently PR’ing each training session and my body doesn’t hurt. I get a little achey, but nothing like before. I’m sure that will end at some point as workload exceeds recovery (read: food intake) at which point I’ll have to train myself to eat more.
I do have a nice moustache going, which I may allow to work itself down to my chin at some point. Well - I think it’s nice. The bag-girl at the grocery store thinks its nice (I know she wants me). Some people I live with don’t think it’s nice.
I have a whole set of bands which I don’t use much. I haven’t done pulls against bands in about a year I think. Last time I did it was hilarious. I was pulling 295 with quadded minis, struggling a bit with it because that was 200 lbs of extra tension at the top. This teenager comes over and asks - well, orders - me to let him do a pull. He was obviously going to show this weak old man how it was done, because 295 is just baby weight you old fuck and I’m a real man.
So he sets up and sure enough that weight rockets right off the floor…
…to the dizzying height of 4 inches. To his credit he cranked on it for a while to get it to go higher, but he just didn’t have it. I’m afraid I laughed very hard at him. He didn’t ask to work in on anything I did after that. I should go back to that gym and see if I can suck anyone else in like that.
[quote]LittleStrick wrote:
Just watched it again. I see where you’re talking about but it still looked really strong. There seemed to be no doubt in your mind that you were going to pull it. I wish I could approach maxes like that. They always intimidate me. Fear of failure me thinks.
This time I watched it with the volume on. Thanks for the guttural sounds. Makes me feel better about myself… [/quote]
I like to yell. I’m getting more into these days. It makes me feel stronger. MY pre lift concentration and visualization is getting better. My missed lift percentage is way down.
It was a submax. I knew that since I could pull 505 for sumo (however badly) from a sticking point I should be able to match my old PR. I think I could have pulled 535 without too much more trouble but I don’t want to pay the price of going too high with deads.
[quote]LittleStrick wrote:
Just watched it again. I see where you’re talking about but it still looked really strong. There seemed to be no doubt in your mind that you were going to pull it. I wish I could approach maxes like that. They always intimidate me. Fear of failure me thinks.
This time I watched it with the volume on. Thanks for the guttural sounds. Makes me feel better about myself… [/quote]
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
very strong pull and press there Pale One. it’s amazing how much faster a lift is in real life. I always feel so damn slow and then i watch the vid and it always moves much faster than i think.
you definitely left some in the tank on both of those.
also… in the overhead press vid, i detected some facial scruff going on. a thick goatee adds AT LEAST 10% to any lift.
as for that transition on the deadlift, pulling against minibands are the shit for that. very easy to set up and the bands are, like, $12 at elitefts.com[/quote]
Hey meat -
Is there some online resource somewhere that shows how to set up bands for things like that? I’m considering picking some up, but I’m trying to figure out where to hook them on the equipment in my gym. Most of it is a closed loop – nothing sticking out that would allow me to put a band around it safely.
You can loop them through the center holes of weight plates or around dumbbells and then up to the bar. Just make sure they’re heavy enough and in the case of dumbbells chock them so they can’t roll.
[quote]DaCharmingAlbino wrote:
You can loop them through the center holes of weight plates or around dumbbells and then up to the bar. Just make sure they’re heavy enough and in the case of dumbbells chock them so they can’t roll.[/quote]
Hm. I’ll give that a shot. Though at this point I’m already using all but four of the 45-lb plates in my gym with my DL working weight. My gym has the decency to have a power rack, etc., but they really cut it close with the number of plates available. If I didn’t work out when it was empty or nearly so, I’d have to wait for plates (or use 25s; we have very few 35s for some reason). But above 400 lbs, 25s become problematic because I’m facing running out of bar. I may soon have to face the fact that I’m going to be lifting more weight than my gym can accomodate. (thankfully, that won’t be until I’m staring 550 or so in the face)
[quote]mcl wrote:
DaCharmingAlbino wrote:
You can loop them through the center holes of weight plates or around dumbbells and then up to the bar. Just make sure they’re heavy enough and in the case of dumbbells chock them so they can’t roll.
Hm. I’ll give that a shot. Though at this point I’m already using all but four of the 45-lb plates in my gym with my DL working weight. My gym has the decency to have a power rack, etc., but they really cut it close with the number of plates available. If I didn’t work out when it was empty or nearly so, I’d have to wait for plates (or use 25s; we have very few 35s for some reason). But above 400 lbs, 25s become problematic because I’m facing running out of bar. I may soon have to face the fact that I’m going to be lifting more weight than my gym can accomodate. (thankfully, that won’t be until I’m staring 550 or so in the face)[/quote]