Do tell. I wanted to see it.
It: Chapter Two
Scarier than the first one by quite a bit. The ending was kinda silly, but in fairness to the movie, the ending of the book was kinda dumb too.
I’m glad there were a lot of flashbacks, because they really left a lot out of the first movie. Must have shot it all back then too because that kid from Stranger Things still looks the same age.
Jessica Chastain is incredibly gorgeous; distractingly so, at times.
Pennywise is brutal. And creepy as fuck. Better (because he’s worse) than the first one.
Overall, I liked it quite a bit, despite the stupid ending.
8/10
Watched the new Dark Crystal series on Netflix not bad…
They tried to do the same thing as the first movie with each character getting into individual situations that build up to a big JUMP SCARE! although nothing they’re seeing is real, but the overarching storyline for this part isn’t strong enough to warrant these. This movie should have had 1hr cut from it’s running time. Everything just becomes tedious and exhausting after the first half hour. The ending is… just nonsense lol. I don’t know how to describe it.
Naked Killer (HK 1992)
Naked Killer is a post modernist portrayal of the feminist archetype; an over-the-top indictment of toxic masculinity, emasculation of the male figure and a fascinating display of how many ways you can deal severe injures to the male appendage. It’s also one of my favorite Hong Kong exploitation movies. 9/10
If interested but unwilling to buy the DVD, you can watch it here but it’s most likely heavily censored:
Did you find the theater packed or distracted by others?
My main complaint watching the first in theaters, even after seeing it 3 times in theaters over a period of 2 months, was that the audience, regardless of how packed the theater was, were always laughing and not even during the ‘comedic’ scenes. I don’t know if it was a defense mechanism but after each time pennywise came out and scared the audience, they burst out with laughter. Seriously pissed me off.
I have high expectations with chapter 2, despite what the reviews have already said. I’d rather watch the movie alone when it comes out on Blu-ray but don’t know if my patience will allow me to wait that long.
I’m not expecting a masterpiece by any means, I just don’t want to hear fat cows all around me chuckling the entire movie and ruining all scenes meant to be terrifying even if they fail to meet my own expectations.
Grandpa out.
Theater was empty. I went to a 10:30 matinee though.
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Just went to a theater with only 3 couples in it including me and my wife.
No laughing or other distractions. After reading the nit picky reviews and having lower expectations I’m happy to say I loved it. There was no over-the-top Richie moments like all the wanna-be movie-critic reviewers harped about. The movie had heart, the cgi wasn’t awful and left extremely happy with how Muschietti concluded the movie. 8/10.
Btw, did I miss the whole ‘mike Hanlon is a drug addict in the sequel’ that everyone, including the director himself alluded to in this movie? Not once did I hear any mention of drugs with the exception of the ritual, where it’s obviously implied but doesn’t go anywhere near ‘drug-addict’ territory. Many scenes in the trailer not shown in movie as well, did not like that either.
I know this is 8 months old but I’m just slowly going through this thread.
Watched a couple trailers, read a few reviews…for some reason I’m intrigued. You really don’t recommend it?
Very nihilistic film in tone, it isn’t a bad as some of lucifer valentines earlier work… if you can call it work (never seen a film of his aside from this one… not into people vomiting on each other)
If you watch the uncut (or even cut, but mostly uncut) version of the film, there are sequences where the documentary style film-making weaves between real and make believe. When Raven (one of the main females in the film, who seems somewhat too intelligent to be leading the life of which she add), overdoses on heroin. The preparation, use of heroin in the aforementioned scene is real, from what I recall (watched this film a while ago so bear with me), she nods off and passes out.
What comes next either equates to a film that should be taken off the market OR a director trying to splice in some fucked up fetish porn within his documentary while claiming it’s real… One of the girls friends and her boyfriend (who is South African and somehow SO oblivious and naive with regard to what’s going on UP until this point) pick her up, take her to her room and… strip her naked and proceed to beat then VIOLENTLY rape her whilst she’s unconscious/dead/overdosed. Later on in the film it’s mentioned the character is dead, furthermore another character legitimately dies within the film (not shown, just put in subtitles “X was shot numerous times in a drug deal gone wrong”)… Well and another one supposedly (fatal overdose, shown on screen)
The characters (aside from the main girl who ends up dead, Raven) are all obnoxious, white supramacists… then again it is black metal. All characters are shown HEAVILY entrenched in drug addiction, to the point where morality and self dignity becomes non-existent. That’s the point of the film, and the depictions of heroin use and the heavy deterioration of the characters (primarily physical characteristics, however the deterioration occurs so fast… over a period of six months if I recall, despite the fact the characters have been supposedly avid heroin, crack, cocaine, meth etc users for many years prior, leading me to think much of the deterioration was make-up)
The pessimistic tone and jarring depictions of drug abuse did amuse me, however the unwarranted rape scene, the numerous on-screen overdoses (shown entirely), from drug preparation to shot to overdose to aftermath) seemed exploitative and unnessecary. If classified the film would EASILY be RC (here in Aus), NC-17 in the US, banned in UK etc, the depictions of violent sexual content and drug use (primarily uncensored version with regard to sexual content and merely the drug use and themes with regards to cut version) are extremely high in impact and for the vast majority of the populace, this film will leave them with a very nasty aftertaste.
The film intrigued me due to the black metal aspect, I was like “black metal, gotta see this”, however there’s very little in the way of black metal present in the film, aside from the very beginning (intro) and a few snippets of the (shitty) band playing (not good black metal), the rest of the film is characters talking about their childhood, characters shooting up and people talking how they came to be the way they are.
I’ve seen many extreme films
- a serbian film
- Cannibal holocaust (uncut)
- Salo
- Human centipede (1&2, second version uncut)
- frontiers
- martyrs
- 15 minutes of August Undergrounds Mordum… shut it off
The only films that have ever left a bad taste in my mouth and/or disturbed me deeply are
- Salo (both the book and the film, disturbed me at age 16 due to graphic, sadistic depictions of forced sexual interactions, fetish play involving minors). The characters are forced to eat shit in numerous scenes, these are some of the milder scenes in the film… This film was released in 1976, overall has a very grimy tone
- August Undergrounds Mordum (extremely graphic, sadistic violence and torture, both sexual and homicidal in nature)… the film serves no purpose (in the 10-15 mins I saw) besides exploitation, the tone of the film legitimately feels like two deranged psychosexual serial killers got together and decided to make a snuff film.
- Black metal veins (rape, on-screen deaths, highly impactful depictions of suffering and addiction)…
- The poughkeepskie tapes (saw this when I was 13 or so, not particularly graphic, the atmosphere of the film got to me)
On another note, saw IT chapter 2 today… what a LET down.
Lacks the original charm or vibe of the Ch1 remake. Somehow the level of on-screen graphic violence manages to be even less than that of the first, feels FAR tamer than the book. Character development compared to CH1 was nil, The ending feels severely anti-climactic.
Scares were non-existent. Similarly to Freddy Kreuger. From what I recall (been a while) but IT manifests for each individual as said peoples worst fears. In which case much of the scares shown in the films (both) are very similar for all characters.
Within the book, Beverly’s main fear compromised of blood due to her fears of becoming a woman (that or it represents her father), could’nt quite figure that out, as her father was abusive (both physically and sexually) and beat her throughout numerous parts in the book. However I’d assume it’s more the first example. However within the films, Beverly sees numerous creatures, the blood comes into play within one slot of duration for both films, and due to the inclusion of many other fear tactics and the lack of involvement of her father (even in the first film, the abuse is alluded to and implied “will you always be daddy’s little girl etc” and the way he looks at/touches her and her uncomfortable reactions blablabla, however the trauma stemming from said abuse and how it shapes her 27 years later isn’t particularly delved into, and thus the blood seems out of place and/or intentional, they don’t delve into exactly why said fear is so significant, the same can be said for all characters within “the losers club”… They could’ve done a better job, however the first film was solid, second was ehhhhh.
I actually prefer the 1990s made for TV film, whilst further toned down, it has more appeal to me. The use of the 80s as time period for the first film seemed like a cheap cash grab within relation to stranger things, they should’ve started in the 50’s, ended in the 80s. In the late 2010’s, if I saw something supernatural occurring (which I’m sure supposedly many individuals of Derry would), I’d fucking film it…
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Pennywise should have started tweeting. That would have scared the living shit out of all of them.
I tried, but it’s a bit weird for me.
I really enjoyed “The Spy” on Netflix. It’s the true story of an Israeli spy who worked his way up to the Syrian Deputy Ministry of Defense. Most of it is true to the real life story.
Stars Sacha Cohen of all people. He’s going to win an Emmy for it. Absolutely brilliant.
Some it it was filmed around my house. I was alarmed when “Syrian” trucks drove down the middle of the local market on the way to the set, and was rather happy to learn there was a movie being filmed.
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Watched Chappelle’s Sticks and Stones special. It was good, not great. Watch Bill Burr’s Paper Tiger special. I snarfed my drink once and was howling with laughter twice.
Also re-watched Young Sherlock Holmes. Still solid for a mid-80s flick. Written by Chris Columbus, directed by Barry Levinson, produced by Steven Spielberg, with special effects from what would end up becoming Pixar.
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I’ll probably be watching Bill Burr this weekend - Bill Burr’s sense of humor “speaks” to me and is very much inline with mine. When I get a bit wound up, I start sounding like Bill Burr I’ve been told
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A Moment of Romance (HK 1990)
A Moment of Romance tells us 3 very accurate things about real Chinese MEN:
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Real MEN only embrace women when things are exploding in the background.
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Love stories normally end with people getting stabbed in the face and disemboweled in slow motion beautifully choreographed by the great Tony Ching Siu Tong.
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The all-male HK band Beyond was awesome.
9.5/10
Yeah, I don’t need to/want to see that. I think I could handle an overdosing (not that it’d be good for me to see) but I just plain don’t want to see something like that, real or fake.
And I googled a couple of those movies to read the plots…Jesus I feel messed up just from reading 2 of those things. I don’t think I can physically make myself watch something like that, man. It wouldn’t be good for me.
But haha yeah I’d thought about checking out the new IT. That kind of movie just seems stupid. Like not actually scary, just dumb.
In my younger years me and my friends would continually attempt to “one up” one another with regard to who could view the most vile, disturbing horror films possible… Probably got a little bit out of hand now that I think of it.
The new IT (CH2) was no good, check out the first one (CH1), I liked it (although the 80s setting wasn’t warranted, seemed like a crash crab due to the success of stranger things)
@dt79 The girl trying to side saddle the bike and the guy making her straddle it was a nice touch. The tragic ending was predictable. Why do the Chinese love that aspect of it so much?
I remember watching Curse of the Golden Flower because Gong Li and Chow Yun Fat were in it, and a friend recommended it. Made me call up my “friend” and give him the whatthefuck? Turns out he hadn’t even watched it himself, the bastard.
If you haven’t watched the movie, then you didn’t see the chick left alone on an empty highway in her wedding gown still running around before the screen goes black. That was the unpredictable part lol. It was also the most memorable because no one expected an ending like that in a commercial movie about action and romance at that time.
Because they know making housewives and schoolgirls cry brings in the big bucks. The Japanese and Koreans do the same shit.
I also think it’s because of Chinese Opera. Most of them start off as love stories and end in tragedies.
^This was written and performed before Romeo and Juliet.
^This was about a weak woman who made a King lose his kingdom because she had a hissy fit every time he had to do important shit like boiling someone in oil.
I normally tell people to steer clear of Zhang Yimou’s big budget movies. They are CRAP. But nooo… they’re packaged and marketed internationally as deep, symbolic “art films” with pretty cinematography so the artsy fartsy crowd thinks they’re watching something great and the shit that makes no fucking sense is due to a difference in culture. All he does is rip off later stage Kurosawa’s film style with none of the substance. The whole story was rubbish. Only Chow Yun Fat was acting his ass off. And Chow Yun Fat was my ONLY hero when I was growing up because of John Woo’s The Killer so this movie was one of the biggest disappointments for me. At least before he got cast in Dragonball Z. The Chinese crowd was laughing non-stop at the depressed guy’s overacting. Jay Chou(the guy from the Green Hornet) isn’t a fucking actor. He’s a very good singer and composer but he sucked so bad in this movie. What was with the fucking ninjas? The part where the young chick, whose name was literally a fucking play on the word “tragic”, ran off after learning that she was fucking her brother or something and got stabbed almost gave me an asthma attack from laughing too hard.
Have you watched Hero starring Jet Li? That one made me legitimately angry.
I did, in the theatre when it came out. And I liked it LOL. (should that admission be in the “flame free” thread???..)
If I was the Jet Li character, I would’ve totally offed that dude though. The reason to kill him was concrete, and present. His argument to be spared was abstract, and in the future. Bird in hand, all the way.
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