The Predator Program

[quote]ActivitiesGuy wrote:
One other thing I thought about pointing out earlier:

You’ve mentioned undertaking these types of “experiments” because you found that “traditional” methods were not giving you the results that you wanted.

After watching your videos, many posters have chimed in to comment with tips on form. We’re not just talking minor tweaks, either, but some pretty major/glaring flaws in your squat and deadlift form. To your credit, you have taken this advice, but it still must be noted just how much of a rank beginner you look like when performing the core lifts. I’m not talking about the weight, either; I’m strictly commenting on the form. You look like someone that, prior to beginning this program, had never performed a proper squat or deadlift.

Taking that into consideration, I suspect that your bemoaned lack of progress with “traditional” methods had far more to do with your poor application of those traditional methods than a problem with the methods themselves.[/quote]

This is about the only relevant thing in this very long thread now.

OP started this because the methods that work for most everyone else didn’t work for him.

It turns out that he doesn’t even know how to squat or deadlift properly, two of the basic key lifts for anyone who wants to get stronger and bigger

This calls into question his very claim that the regular methods don’t work for him, simply because we don’t know how much effort he put into the regular methods and whether he actually did those regular methods in a proper manner.

“Slim down”??

Bud, if that’s you in your avi, and you lose any more weight, we’ll be able to see your organs.

[quote]TrevorLPT wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Do you still not see what what we are saying? Why you? [/quote]

Your argument is centered around ad hominem and argument by authority. I want the material judged not myself. The question should be why your book? And quite frankly it’s not that you care to find out the reasons. There won’t be any answer I can provide that’s good enough.

What would be a good enough answer that you would change your mind about me as an author?
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I can’t answer for anyone else, but I know personally I’d only trust someone who could show that their methods have produced good results for themselves and/ or for others. The more “far out” their recommendations, the more impressive the results would need to be for me to take them seriously.

Also, I think a lot of people are going to have a hard time accepting advice about diet, training, or anything related to physical fitness from someone who calls themselves an expert but who weighs 150 lbs and has lifts at your level. ESPECIALLY if they themselves admit that they’ve made little to no progress in the years that it’s taken for them to accumulate their “expertise.”

Maybe if 6 months ago you weighed 80 lbs and were so weak that you couldn’t walk on your own people would be interested in hearing how you’ve made the progress that you have. Unfortunately that doesn’t seem to be the case. [/quote]

With 66% of the population being overweight and obese, 30% who are dieting at all times, the 500,000+ people dying of CVD every year, 8% who are diabetic, 35% who are insulin resistant, and numerous other health conditions most people are just trying to get to my level. I’m healthy, happy, got a ton of energy, and regardless of me being only 158 lbs right now I’m fit.

For the last 2.5 years I’ve been doing experiments on health. I haven’t been trying to work on my 1RMs or physique. My knowledge base is in health concerns like cholesterol and insulin resistance. In that regard I’ve been able to drop my cholesterol by 204 mg/dL in 23 days, and my fasting glucose by 20 mg/dL in 28 days. At my heaviest I was 205 lbs so I have experience losing weight too (coincidentally that’s when I had my PRs too).

I can tell you that studies artificially raising HDL haven’t shown any benefit to reducing incidence of CVD.

I can explain the results from the IOM study on sodium and why the 2,300mg CDC recommendation for sodium limit is bunk.

Etc.

[quote]ActivitiesGuy wrote:
One other thing I thought about pointing out earlier:

You’ve mentioned undertaking these types of “experiments” because you found that “traditional” methods were not giving you the results that you wanted.

After watching your videos, many posters have chimed in to comment with tips on form. We’re not just talking minor tweaks, either, but some pretty major/glaring flaws in your squat and deadlift form. To your credit, you have taken this advice, but it still must be noted just how much of a rank beginner you look like when performing the core lifts. I’m not talking about the weight, either; I’m strictly commenting on the form. You look like someone that, prior to beginning this program, had never performed a proper squat or deadlift.

Taking that into consideration, I suspect that your bemoaned lack of progress with “traditional” methods had far more to do with your poor application of those traditional methods than a problem with the methods themselves.[/quote]

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:
What would be a good enough answer that you would change your mind about me as an author?
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You successfully applying your methods to x # of trainees. That would help to establish legitimacy to your methods.

At a minimum you yourself should be successful using your own methods. [/quote]

I have helped several hypoglycemics with this advice before though, just no study that was conducted…
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So now you claim you have practiced medicine? Was this online or in person? Was it in the state of Oklahoma? [/quote]

Lol, helping several hypoglycemics with none of the accountability of the whole being a licensed health care provider thing. What exactly happens if these people, you know, go into a coma and die due to your scientifically backed advice?

[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
There’s fallacy in this as well. Your approach you’ve outlined can help prevent hypoglycemia. Treating hypoglycemia does not involve vegetables and fat/protein. Someone exhibiting hypoglycemic symptoms, or with actual low readings is not treated with a green pepper and sausage. Stop trying to kill people. Now you’re just being reckless.
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From http://www.logan.edu/mm/files/LRC/Senior-Research/2003-Dec-34.pdf

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
There’s fallacy in this as well. Your approach you’ve outlined can help prevent hypoglycemia. Treating hypoglycemia does not involve vegetables and fat/protein. Someone exhibiting hypoglycemic symptoms, or with actual low readings is not treated with a green pepper and sausage. Stop trying to kill people. Now you’re just being reckless.
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From http://www.logan.edu/mm/files/LRC/Senior-Research/2003-Dec-34.pdf

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What is that someones dissertation?

[quote]ActivitiesGuy wrote:
Taking that into consideration, I suspect that your bemoaned lack of progress with “traditional” methods had far more to do with your poor application of those traditional methods than a problem with the methods themselves.[/quote]

Quite possibly.

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
There’s fallacy in this as well. Your approach you’ve outlined can help prevent hypoglycemia. Treating hypoglycemia does not involve vegetables and fat/protein. Someone exhibiting hypoglycemic symptoms, or with actual low readings is not treated with a green pepper and sausage. Stop trying to kill people. Now you’re just being reckless.
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From http://www.logan.edu/mm/files/LRC/Senior-Research/2003-Dec-34.pdf

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Yes dude… Controlled… Not TREATED. VERY DIFFERENT in this particular context.

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
There’s fallacy in this as well. Your approach you’ve outlined can help prevent hypoglycemia. Treating hypoglycemia does not involve vegetables and fat/protein. Someone exhibiting hypoglycemic symptoms, or with actual low readings is not treated with a green pepper and sausage. Stop trying to kill people. Now you’re just being reckless.
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From http://www.logan.edu/mm/files/LRC/Senior-Research/2003-Dec-34.pdf

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You don’t just get to read up on how to treat things and apply it to whoever you want. That’s a felony, bud.


Source American Diabetes Association.

http://www.diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/treatment-and-care/blood-glucose-control/hypoglycemia-low-blood.html

You are confusing two things in your very basic example which is further adding weight to the critique people have made of you.

Cliff notes of this thread (correct me if I am wrong):

-OP ran his own program dubbed the predator program.

-Unclear if it worked or not?

-Clear his bench, squat and bench suck still?

-Everyone asking for validity for basis of his program

-Good video games discussed

[quote]pennstate29 wrote:
Cliff notes of this thread (correct me if I am wrong):

-OP ran his own program dubbed the predator program.

-Unclear if it worked or not?

-Clear his bench, squat and bench suck still?

-Everyone asking for validity for basis of his program

-Good video games discussed

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You missed the part where OP has been diagnosing and treating patients.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
There’s fallacy in this as well. Your approach you’ve outlined can help prevent hypoglycemia. Treating hypoglycemia does not involve vegetables and fat/protein. Someone exhibiting hypoglycemic symptoms, or with actual low readings is not treated with a green pepper and sausage. Stop trying to kill people. Now you’re just being reckless.
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From http://www.logan.edu/mm/files/LRC/Senior-Research/2003-Dec-34.pdf

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What is that someones dissertation?[/quote]

Possibly. There aren’t a lot of studies on hypoglycemia, but it’s someone who’s got more credentials than me (a.k.a. just saying I’m not pulling this out of my ass). Low-carb diets are overall pretty well time tested for stabilizing blood sugar levels. It’s not a topic that’s very controversial. Except in that doctor’s mind who thought Gatorade and Snickers was the trick to curing it…

[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
Source American Diabetes Association.

http://www.diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/treatment-and-care/blood-glucose-control/hypoglycemia-low-blood.html

You are confusing two things in your very basic example which is further adding weight to the critique people have made of you.[/quote]

You do understand that my paper refers to non-diabetic hypoglycemia not diabetic hypoglycemia right? These are two very different things…

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
There’s fallacy in this as well. Your approach you’ve outlined can help prevent hypoglycemia. Treating hypoglycemia does not involve vegetables and fat/protein. Someone exhibiting hypoglycemic symptoms, or with actual low readings is not treated with a green pepper and sausage. Stop trying to kill people. Now you’re just being reckless.
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From http://www.logan.edu/mm/files/LRC/Senior-Research/2003-Dec-34.pdf

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What is that someones dissertation?[/quote]

[quote]CroatianRage wrote:

[quote]pennstate29 wrote:
Cliff notes of this thread (correct me if I am wrong):

-OP ran his own program dubbed the predator program.

-Unclear if it worked or not?

-Clear his bench, squat and bench suck still?

-Everyone asking for validity for basis of his program

-Good video games discussed

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You missed the part where OP has been diagnosing and treating patients.[/quote]

I suppose I did.

OP do you have patients you treat?

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
There’s fallacy in this as well. Your approach you’ve outlined can help prevent hypoglycemia. Treating hypoglycemia does not involve vegetables and fat/protein. Someone exhibiting hypoglycemic symptoms, or with actual low readings is not treated with a green pepper and sausage. Stop trying to kill people. Now you’re just being reckless.
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From http://www.logan.edu/mm/files/LRC/Senior-Research/2003-Dec-34.pdf

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What is that someones dissertation?[/quote]

Possibly. There aren’t a lot of studies on hypoglycemia, but it’s someone who’s got more credentials than me (a.k.a. just saying I’m not pulling this out of my ass). Low-carb diets are overall pretty well time tested for stabilizing blood sugar levels. It’s not a topic that’s very controversial. Except in that doctor’s mind who thought Gatorade and Snickers was the trick to curing it…
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How did you determine this was a reputable source?


Oh my God - just stop! It doesn’t fucking matter - you treat hypoglycemia the same FUCKING WAY!

[quote]CroatianRage wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
There’s fallacy in this as well. Your approach you’ve outlined can help prevent hypoglycemia. Treating hypoglycemia does not involve vegetables and fat/protein. Someone exhibiting hypoglycemic symptoms, or with actual low readings is not treated with a green pepper and sausage. Stop trying to kill people. Now you’re just being reckless.
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From http://www.logan.edu/mm/files/LRC/Senior-Research/2003-Dec-34.pdf

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You don’t just get to read up on how to treat things and apply it to whoever you want. That’s a felony, bud.
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Saying something is a cure is a crime. Giving medical advice pretending to be a doctor is a crime. Giving advice on how to treat obesity, insulin resistance, diabetes, high cholesterol, etc. is not. Some states want to approach this but it’s not a crime as long as you’re not claiming you have credentials you don’t.