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[quote]PureNsanity wrote:
In my opinion a successful diet is one who can adhere to any diet for any length of time. The reality is the majority of the public cannot adhere to the diets they need to be on. […]

I can adhere to any diet, any length of time…[/quote]

My question then is why haven’t you adhered to the diet you need to be on to achieve your strength/physique goals.

You’ve clearly demonstrated consistency and discipline (or stubbornness, depending on how you want to look at it), no question about that.

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[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

No. Two reasons: 1) I had just come off a very nutrient rich, variety filled diet and nutrients last for months in the body; 2) All my other single food source experiments had similar lack of variety. [/quote]

Dietary protein lasts for months in the body? I think some of your assumptions are very flawed.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:
In my opinion a successful diet is one who can adhere to any diet for any length of time. The reality is the majority of the public cannot adhere to the diets they need to be on. […]

I can adhere to any diet, any length of time…[/quote]

My question then is why haven’t you adhered to the diet you need to be on to achieve your strength/physique goals.

You’ve clearly demonstrated consistency and discipline (or stubbornness, depending on how you want to look at it), no question about that.[/quote]

Perhaps I have done everything I can with diet and it’s just the exercise methodology/progression that I’m lacking in?

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[quote]TrevorLPT wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

No. Two reasons: 1) I had just come off a very nutrient rich, variety filled diet and nutrients last for months in the body; 2) All my other single food source experiments had similar lack of variety.

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Dietary protein lasts for months in the body? I think some of your assumptions are very flawed. [/quote]

Potatoes still have protein although I was only getting about 55g a day. Are you suggesting that I had severe diarrhea and gastrointestinal distress from a lack of protein for 28 days?

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[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:
In my opinion a successful diet is one who can adhere to any diet for any length of time. The reality is the majority of the public cannot adhere to the diets they need to be on. […]

I can adhere to any diet, any length of time…[/quote]

My question then is why haven’t you adhered to the diet you need to be on to achieve your strength/physique goals.

You’ve clearly demonstrated consistency and discipline (or stubbornness, depending on how you want to look at it), no question about that.[/quote]

Perhaps I have done everything I can with diet and it’s just the exercise methodology/progression that I’m lacking in?
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What do you see as a proper diet, for you, in this case?

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[quote]PureNsanity wrote:
I can adhere to any diet, any length of time… I can eat foods I find bland or disgusting just because I believe it’s better. One small example but I drink unflavored BCAA’s and L-Glutamine because I don’t want the dyes and sugars and it tastes like chewing an aspirin. I eat with purpose not for taste and I happy doing it. That’s why I consider myself an expert dieter.
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Srs? So because you can eat anything for any amount of time even if it tastes gross or has no taste at all you’re now an “expert dieter”?? There’s no way your serious.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:
In my opinion a successful diet is one who can adhere to any diet for any length of time. The reality is the majority of the public cannot adhere to the diets they need to be on. […]

I can adhere to any diet, any length of time…[/quote]

My question then is why haven’t you adhered to the diet you need to be on to achieve your strength/physique goals.

You’ve clearly demonstrated consistency and discipline (or stubbornness, depending on how you want to look at it), no question about that.[/quote]

Perhaps I have done everything I can with diet and it’s just the exercise methodology/progression that I’m lacking in?
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What do you see as a proper diet, for you, in this case?[/quote]

My usual weight gaining diet was around 1g - 2g of protein per pound of body weight, at least .4g of fat per pound of body weight, 10 - 15 servings of fruits and veggies in the day, and fill the rest with carbohydrates for around a 250 - 500 calorie surplus in the day. Make sure to get proper pre, peri-, and post-workout nutrition. BCAA and creatine supplementation at least. Adjust caloric intake and protein supplementation based on weight gain and recovery.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:
I can adhere to any diet, any length of time… I can eat foods I find bland or disgusting just because I believe it’s better. One small example but I drink unflavored BCAA’s and L-Glutamine because I don’t want the dyes and sugars and it tastes like chewing an aspirin. I eat with purpose not for taste and I happy doing it. That’s why I consider myself an expert dieter.
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Srs? So because you can eat anything for any amount of time even if it tastes gross or has no taste at all you’re now an “expert dieter”?? There’s no way your serious.[/quote]

Super cereal. I challenge you to see how long you can eat without sugar, salt, or seasonings of any kind. Decide not to do it fine, but don’t use a cop out excuse if you can’t/won’t try it.

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[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:
I can adhere to any diet, any length of time… I can eat foods I find bland or disgusting just because I believe it’s better. One small example but I drink unflavored BCAA’s and L-Glutamine because I don’t want the dyes and sugars and it tastes like chewing an aspirin. I eat with purpose not for taste and I happy doing it. That’s why I consider myself an expert dieter.
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Srs? So because you can eat anything for any amount of time even if it tastes gross or has no taste at all you’re now an “expert dieter”?? There’s no way your serious.[/quote]

Super cereal. I challenge you to see how long you can eat without sugar, salt, or seasonings of any kind. Decide not to do it fine, but don’t use a cop out excuse if you can’t/won’t try it.
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but what would be the point of doing so, other than to say you’ve done it?

What good does any of this actually do anyone?

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[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]TrevorLPT wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

No. Two reasons: 1) I had just come off a very nutrient rich, variety filled diet and nutrients last for months in the body; 2) All my other single food source experiments had similar lack of variety.

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Dietary protein lasts for months in the body? I think some of your assumptions are very flawed. [/quote]

Potatoes still have protein although I was only getting about 55g a day. Are you suggesting that I had severe diarrhea and gastrointestinal distress from a lack of protein for 28 days?
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No, that was just an easy example of where your claim that “nutrients last for months in the body” is untrue. Some do, some don’t. Theres a reason that actual experts don’t advocate eating a salad once every few months to make sure you’re getting your nutrients in.

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Have you ever done a comprehensive hormone panel?

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[quote]TrevorLPT wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]TrevorLPT wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

No. Two reasons: 1) I had just come off a very nutrient rich, variety filled diet and nutrients last for months in the body; 2) All my other single food source experiments had similar lack of variety.

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Dietary protein lasts for months in the body? I think some of your assumptions are very flawed. [/quote]

Potatoes still have protein although I was only getting about 55g a day. Are you suggesting that I had severe diarrhea and gastrointestinal distress from a lack of protein for 28 days?
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No, that was just an easy example of where your claim that “nutrients last for months in the body” is untrue. Some do, some don’t. Theres a reason that actual experts don’t advocate eating a salad once every few months to make sure you’re getting your nutrients in. [/quote]

Some people would argue that muscle tissue is a form of protein storage. I don’t know of any single nutrient in the body that you can’t go 3 months without. If you can provide a source with one I’ll stand corrected.

There’s a big difference between healthy and optimal. For example, about 1/3rd of the Irish population literally lived off the potato from the 1590’s to the 1900’s. While this wasn’t an optimal diet, it did provide all the nutrition they needed to survive.

Our mainstream views of what’s healthy are often distorted by untested theory. For example, the whole eat the rainbow concept has never been scientifically established. We just know that vegetation with different colors has different phytochemicals with positive health benefits, but there’s no single study that tests this thoroughly. Sure we compare a variety diet against junk food diets, but nothing like someone who eats 5 bananas versus a person who eats a banana, pear, apple, blueberries, and kiwi.

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[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:
I can adhere to any diet, any length of time… I can eat foods I find bland or disgusting just because I believe it’s better. One small example but I drink unflavored BCAA’s and L-Glutamine because I don’t want the dyes and sugars and it tastes like chewing an aspirin. I eat with purpose not for taste and I happy doing it. That’s why I consider myself an expert dieter.
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Srs? So because you can eat anything for any amount of time even if it tastes gross or has no taste at all you’re now an “expert dieter”?? There’s no way your serious.[/quote]

Super cereal. I challenge you to see how long you can eat without sugar, salt, or seasonings of any kind. Decide not to do it fine, but don’t use a cop out excuse if you can’t/won’t try it.
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but what would be the point of doing so, other than to say you’ve done it?

What good does any of this actually do anyone?[/quote]

If you want to measure capability to adhere to diets how do you do it? You have to come up with a common test just about everyone can do. People eat a whole bunch of different foods and amounts, but you can always eat whatever your diet (i.e. vegan, omnivore, gluten-free, low-carb, etc) without refined sugar, salt, or seasonings. Plus I personally think it’s good to take a break from it all every once in a while. It helps restore your palate and makes natural foods taste even better.

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[quote]dt79 wrote:
Have you ever done a comprehensive hormone panel? [/quote]

No.

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what part of Oklahoma are you in?

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Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should do it. Your “diets” are a prime example.

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[quote]PureNsanity wrote:
In my opinion a successful diet is one who can adhere to any diet for any length of time. [/quote]

Quite possibly one of the silliest things I’ve read on these forums. So anyone who lives on nothing but burgers and Doritos for an extended period, is a “successful?” I think most people would agree that a diet usually has an end goal, whether it’s short term, or long term sustainable.

Seriously? Unless you’re the .00001% genetic anomaly that internet experts always cite to dispute available scientific data, I really doubt you can build an elite physique without intelligent and consistent focus on diet.
Also, following a ridiculous diet without deviation will certainly not lead to a good physique. There are too many other variables.

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I can adhere to any diet, any length of time… I can eat foods I find bland or disgusting just because I believe it’s better. One small example but I drink unflavored BCAA’s and L-Glutamine because I don’t want the dyes and sugars and it tastes like chewing an aspirin. I eat with purpose not for taste and I happy doing it. That’s why I consider myself an expert dieter.[/quote]

It just means that you either have decent will power, are reasonably intelligent to understand that long term goals mean short term sacrifice, or perhaps you just don’t have especially gourmet taste buds.

Whichever the actual reason, I don’t really see it as a laudable talent.

S

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[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]TrevorLPT wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]TrevorLPT wrote:

[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

No. Two reasons: 1) I had just come off a very nutrient rich, variety filled diet and nutrients last for months in the body; 2) All my other single food source experiments had similar lack of variety.

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Dietary protein lasts for months in the body? I think some of your assumptions are very flawed. [/quote]

Potatoes still have protein although I was only getting about 55g a day. Are you suggesting that I had severe diarrhea and gastrointestinal distress from a lack of protein for 28 days?
[/quote]

No, that was just an easy example of where your claim that “nutrients last for months in the body” is untrue. Some do, some don’t. Theres a reason that actual experts don’t advocate eating a salad once every few months to make sure you’re getting your nutrients in. [/quote]

Some people would argue that muscle tissue is a form of protein storage. I don’t know of any single nutrient in the body that you can’t go 3 months without. If you can provide a source with one I’ll stand corrected.

There’s a big difference between healthy and optimal. For example, about 1/3rd of the Irish population literally lived off the potato from the 1590’s to the 1900’s. While this wasn’t an optimal diet, it did provide all the nutrition they needed to survive.

Our mainstream views of what’s healthy are often distorted by untested theory. For example, the whole eat the rainbow concept has never been scientifically established. We just know that vegetation with different colors has different phytochemicals with positive health benefits, but there’s no single study that tests this thoroughly. Sure we compare a variety diet against junk food diets, but nothing like someone who eats 5 bananas versus a person who eats a banana, pear, apple, blueberries, and kiwi.
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You hit the nail on the head when you said theres a difference between “healthy” and optimal. Billions of people are able to survive for their entire lives on poverty diets that are 90% simple starches without any obvious diseases resulting from their diets. Hell, I spent 6 months in Nepal eating white rice and lentils pretty much every day, with occasional sweets and cup of sugary, milky tea. Could I have eaten like that for the rest of my natural life? Sure. Tons of people do. But I definitely felt like shit, lost about 30 lbs of muscle mass, and was pitifully weak by the end of it. Why you’d intentionally subject yourself to that sort of restriction when there are obviously better alternatives all around you I’m not really sure. Why not just go for optimal, or as close to that as you can get?

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[quote]PureNsanity wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:
Have you ever done a comprehensive hormone panel? [/quote]

No.
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I suggest you do it.

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[quote]flipcollar wrote:
what part of Oklahoma are you in?[/quote]

Oklahoma City, but noticing you’re in TX I’m also in Addison about once a week.