[quote]gregron wrote:
This pic from your profile that says “day 40 of the challenge”?[/quote]
And today is day 40 of the experiment. I’m doing this for 90 days. Did you read the opening page explaining the experiment?
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I think he’s asking if this is the pic you took today, as in the one you said you’re guessing you are about 10% BF.
I think the issue is you’re probably above 15% BF. The Picture in my avi is 12% or higher, and I think I’m much leaner in that pic than you are in the one you just posted.
This isn’t a big deal, most people think they are leaner then they are. I mean unless you just carry your fat very uniquely and like your legs are lower back are lean as hell, you have more fat to lose than you think.
On top of that, why focus on that particular number? Why a specific BF percent? It doesn’t say much about a person. You can look great or look like shit at the same BF. There is no contest for strictly ‘lowest BF’, and getting that low doesn’t aid in performance at all.
[quote]dt79 wrote:
I’m beginning to admire your efforts as well. But based on your current pic i respectfully urge you to consider putting the brakes on this. [/quote]
At least I haven’t been currently referred to as a holocaust survivor. So what I’m hearing is progress. Heh…
[quote]dt79 wrote:
I’m beginning to admire your efforts as well. But based on your current pic i respectfully urge you to consider putting the brakes on this. [/quote]
At least I haven’t been currently referred to as a holocaust survivor. So what I’m hearing is progress. Heh…[/quote]
[quote]gregron wrote:
This pic from your profile that says “day 40 of the challenge”?[/quote]
And today is day 40 of the experiment. I’m doing this for 90 days. Did you read the opening page explaining the experiment?
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I skimmed it. Personally, I think this experiment is a bad idea but it’s pretty obvious that you’re going to do what you’re going to do.
FTR, that photo is no where near 10% bodyfat. More like 15-18%
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I’ve had over a dozen DXA scans from 145 lbs to 187 lbs in the last two years during my experiments, I’m pretty familiar with how my physique pairs up to my body composition. The latest DXA scan I had in October I was at 19.5% at 175 lbs. Seeing how I’m 16 lbs less and have several DXAs around this body weight I can pretty safely say I’m well under 15% body fat.
Are you trying to suggest my photos I have with corresponding DXA scans are less relative than your pictures of different people with different physiques?
[quote]gregron wrote:
Not sure if srs or elaborate trolling…[/quote]
I’m 100% completely serious. Do a search for “The Health Satori Project” on Amazon and you’ll find my ebook about my initial experiments from 03/01/2012 to around 12/01/2013 where all those DXA scans came from.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
those photos just make it even harder to understand.
By the looks of it, you’ll need to get down to 120lbs and -5% body fat just to see a 6 pack!
How can you look identical 12lbs heavier and 7% body fat higher (comparing your 163lbs to 175lbs)?
This is all very strange.[/quote]
I agree. At the very beginning of this thread when everyone was asking me why I don’t just stick to traditional methods it’s because of stuff like this. I can’t explain how my body jumps around in weight (both lean and fat mass) and why my physique doesn’t match up with others with relative strength and body fat percentages. I’m not knocking traditional methods and know that I can be more successful on them with more effort, and more time but it’s coerced me to experiment.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
The experiment was an interesting idea, but I think you should write it off as a loss. It’s clearly not doing anything for you.[/quote]
The body works in cycles much larger than months and it’s only been 40 days so I have to give it more time. I honestly feel a difference and think I will see notable changes if I keep this up. It’s an experiment after all…
[quote]PureNsanity wrote:
Comparison photo. All body fat estimates measured via DXA.
CORRECTION: Top left picture is 11.3%[/quote]
Maybe it’s the angles and/or lighting, but you look way softer at your current state than you did at 175. Everyone’s telling you to stop this trainwreck and try one of the 100’s (if not thousands) of proven programs and dietary approaches to attain your goals. Maybe you shold start listening.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
It just seems like a waste of time.
Does it work? Yes. Is it optimal? Definitely not. What more could you possibly learn?[/quote]
We can’t assume how effective it’s going to be before the end of the study, but there are numerous things to learn about this experiment that are not goal oriented. For example, I want to see how my body’s BMR reacts over this three day period at the end - see how well it adapted. I also want to do Vitamin profiles to see how everything is consuming the beef and organ meat particularly Vitamin C and E. I am particularly interested to see the lean mass retention from this method.
In terms of if this is optimal I think that depends on your view point. This is the most successful weight loss I’ve personally experienced while working out less than 3 hours a week. If it does retain lean mass well it would lead me to want to experiment more with this pattern. Not necessarily raw meats or the same fasting protocol but a cycle with similarities.
When experimenting you want to initially use extremes. Trying to differentiate results between two variables that are close makes determining significant effects very hard if at all possible. For instance, if you are trying to see if cutting more calories causes more weight loss you don’t compare 200 calorie deficit to 300. The 100 calorie difference isn’t enough to surpass margin of error. Go from one end of the spectrum to the other and it will be a lot more clear like going from 200 calories to 1000 calories.
[quote]PureNsanity wrote:
Comparison photo. All body fat estimates measured via DXA.
CORRECTION: Top left picture is 11.3%[/quote]
Maybe it’s the angles and/or lighting, but you look way softer at your current state than you did at 175. Everyone’s telling you to stop this trainwreck and try one of the 100’s (if not thousands) of proven programs and dietary approaches to attain your goals. Maybe you shold start listening.[/quote]
I didn’t shave my chest this time which definitely is going to add to a softened look. I’ll have to redo the picture with a shaved chest and properly lighting, but I actually feel I’ve previously had the softer look.
Again though this is an experiment not the means to an end.
