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901

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

The only Front Squat Assistance I did was ab work as I felt the total volume from the Deadlift day was enough. I feel doing more than that was overkill.

That’s how I got my 600 Deadlift (Beltless) and 405 Front Squat (Beltless and Paused).[/quote]

Yep I remeber that from the last page conversation. Well i will certainly be running the conan for my DL day. For squat day i dunno if i can go that low of volume considering the weight i would use for front squat would be pretty small. So i might have to do some assistance for quads with it. It would be a huge drop in leg volume for me.[/quote]

Less is more, and even if you were back squatting during the deadlift time, you’re suppose to put Squat on maintenance , the way I manage the overall tonnage and volume was to go low volume and bringing up my Front Squat, killing two birds with one stone.

What’s more important, bringing your Deadlift up and bringing up both lifts up at the same time? If the latter, I wouldn’t do a Deadlift Specialization routine.[/quote]

Less more has nver worked for my mind lol. Probably one of the reasons strength has never progressed the way it should. I do too much. Cant help it. Mainly looking to bring my dead of and just looking to add some strength to my front squat. I dont back squat as it doesnt agree with meand my previous injuries and my structure. I most likely will never PL so that makes me not Front squat. My squat routine it heavy Trap bar dead, front squat, Bulgarian split squat, leg press, leg ext. THat is on Thus then SUnday Deadlift day is conventional deads, RDLs, Trap bar dead stop explosive RDLs. Leg curls. 5 work sets for all exercises except the Trap bar dead and conventional dead whihc i use a template from CT’s strength program. Thats why i was thinking the volume would not be a problem :slight_smile: Most exercises have been increasing in strength evne with all that fun i have

902

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
Lol ashy you are already fucked. Ben rice is starting usapl and is 198 competition weight.

[/quote]

I was dreading the day he would compete in 198 :frowning: At least I can set some Kansas state records . . . .

lol

903

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
Deta can you post a vid of you benching soon, including set up.

I have been switching over to flat footed benching, as is required by USAPL, however I find my arch has diminished from it, would like to see someone used to the styles set up.[/quote]

Absolutely, I’ll do a set up video tomorrow before I do my regular workout.

904

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

The only Front Squat Assistance I did was ab work as I felt the total volume from the Deadlift day was enough. I feel doing more than that was overkill.

That’s how I got my 600 Deadlift (Beltless) and 405 Front Squat (Beltless and Paused).[/quote]

Yep I remeber that from the last page conversation. Well i will certainly be running the conan for my DL day. For squat day i dunno if i can go that low of volume considering the weight i would use for front squat would be pretty small. So i might have to do some assistance for quads with it. It would be a huge drop in leg volume for me.[/quote]

Less is more, and even if you were back squatting during the deadlift time, you’re suppose to put Squat on maintenance , the way I manage the overall tonnage and volume was to go low volume and bringing up my Front Squat, killing two birds with one stone.

What’s more important, bringing your Deadlift up and bringing up both lifts up at the same time? If the latter, I wouldn’t do a Deadlift Specialization routine.[/quote]

Less more has nver worked for my mind lol. Probably one of the reasons strength has never progressed the way it should. I do too much. Cant help it. Mainly looking to bring my dead of and just looking to add some strength to my front squat. I dont back squat as it doesnt agree with meand my previous injuries and my structure. I most likely will never PL so that makes me not Front squat. My squat routine it heavy Trap bar dead, front squat, Bulgarian split squat, leg press, leg ext. THat is on Thus then SUnday Deadlift day is conventional deads, RDLs, Trap bar dead stop explosive RDLs. Leg curls. 5 work sets for all exercises except the Trap bar dead and conventional dead whihc i use a template from CT’s strength program. Thats why i was thinking the volume would not be a problem :slight_smile: Most exercises have been increasing in strength evne with all that fun i have[/quote]

lolwut, re-write that in proper grammar please, I don’t think I understand what you said too well, but

I highly doubt your body doesn’t agree with back squatting, I bet your technique just sucks.

Post a video on my log and prove me wrong :slight_smile:

Your leg day doesn’t seem to have a proper sort of periodization to it, which the Coan Bench and Deadlift routines have, so you can’t just add a periodized plan and then have a free day, it all has to fit together, otherwise the success rate will greatly diminish.

905

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
Deta can you post a vid of you benching soon, including set up.

I have been switching over to flat footed benching, as is required by USAPL, however I find my arch has diminished from it, would like to see someone used to the styles set up.[/quote]

Absolutely, I’ll do a set up video tomorrow before I do my regular workout.[/quote]
Oh man, plz post it early! I am benching tomorrow! Hahaha.

906

[quote]pbclax1 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
Deta can you post a vid of you benching soon, including set up.

I have been switching over to flat footed benching, as is required by USAPL, however I find my arch has diminished from it, would like to see someone used to the styles set up.[/quote]

Absolutely, I’ll do a set up video tomorrow before I do my regular workout.[/quote]
Oh man, plz post it early! I am benching tomorrow! Hahaha.[/quote]

Ha, I think I’ll be training around 2pm EST, so idk if that will be early enough for you lol

907

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
Deta can you post a vid of you benching soon, including set up.

I have been switching over to flat footed benching, as is required by USAPL, however I find my arch has diminished from it, would like to see someone used to the styles set up.[/quote]

Absolutely, I’ll do a set up video tomorrow before I do my regular workout.[/quote]

Danke schön!

And x33333 the earlier the better, I am doing a chest workout around 630.

908

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
Lol ashy you are already fucked. Ben rice is starting usapl and is 198 competition weight.

[/quote]

I was dreading the day he would compete in 198 :frowning: At least I can set some Kansas state records . . . .

lol[/quote]

lol you are beasting regardless ashy no worries.

909

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
Deta can you post a vid of you benching soon, including set up.

I have been switching over to flat footed benching, as is required by USAPL, however I find my arch has diminished from it, would like to see someone used to the styles set up.[/quote]

Absolutely, I’ll do a set up video tomorrow before I do my regular workout.[/quote]

Danke sch�¶n!

And x33333 the earlier the better, I am doing a chest workout around 630.[/quote]
titty workout

910

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
Lol ashy you are already fucked. Ben rice is starting usapl and is 198 competition weight.

[/quote]

I was dreading the day he would compete in 198 :frowning: At least I can set some Kansas state records . . . .

lol[/quote]

lol you are beasting regardless ashy no worries.[/quote]
applying lotion = instant gainz

911

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

The only Front Squat Assistance I did was ab work as I felt the total volume from the Deadlift day was enough. I feel doing more than that was overkill.

That’s how I got my 600 Deadlift (Beltless) and 405 Front Squat (Beltless and Paused).[/quote]

Yep I remeber that from the last page conversation. Well i will certainly be running the conan for my DL day. For squat day i dunno if i can go that low of volume considering the weight i would use for front squat would be pretty small. So i might have to do some assistance for quads with it. It would be a huge drop in leg volume for me.[/quote]

Less is more, and even if you were back squatting during the deadlift time, you’re suppose to put Squat on maintenance , the way I manage the overall tonnage and volume was to go low volume and bringing up my Front Squat, killing two birds with one stone.

What’s more important, bringing your Deadlift up and bringing up both lifts up at the same time? If the latter, I wouldn’t do a Deadlift Specialization routine.[/quote]

Less more has nver worked for my mind lol. Probably one of the reasons strength has never progressed the way it should. I do too much. Cant help it. Mainly looking to bring my dead of and just looking to add some strength to my front squat. I dont back squat as it doesnt agree with meand my previous injuries and my structure. I most likely will never PL so that makes me not Front squat. My squat routine it heavy Trap bar dead, front squat, Bulgarian split squat, leg press, leg ext. THat is on Thus then SUnday Deadlift day is conventional deads, RDLs, Trap bar dead stop explosive RDLs. Leg curls. 5 work sets for all exercises except the Trap bar dead and conventional dead whihc i use a template from CT’s strength program. Thats why i was thinking the volume would not be a problem :slight_smile: Most exercises have been increasing in strength evne with all that fun i have[/quote]

lolwut, re-write that in proper grammar please, I don’t think I understand what you said too well, but

I highly doubt your body doesn’t agree with back squatting, I bet your technique just sucks.

Post a video on my log and prove me wrong :slight_smile:

Your leg day doesn’t seem to have a proper sort of periodization to it, which the Coan Bench and Deadlift routines have, so you can’t just add a periodized plan and then have a free day, it all has to fit together, otherwise the success rate will greatly diminish.[/quote]

Lol i have all my stuff posted in my log. I am not looking to have you write me up a program or anything. Mainly just picking your brain. I am built pretty close to ashy from what i can see form his vids. Long legs/femurs relative to torso and vey long arms all things relative as well. But ashy has better mobility than I do. So does my form suck. sure does my mobility suck, sure. If i posted a vid i would prove you right but i also do know i am not built for good back squats. to get to depth requires too much forward lean for my lower back to be happy.

My leg day has no periodization in terms of PLing type stuff as of now. Its a BB type training with a strength element to kick things off.

912

Det and ashy are both beasts And so damn young. Will be fun to see if either can smash the record. Dont let anyone other than you too snag the record/

913

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Det and ashy are both beasts And so damn young. Will be fun to see if either can smash the record. Dont let anyone other than you too snag the record/[/quote]
That’s right Det. Drop done and let me have 220.

914

Im thinking about dropping to the 146 class. Just 110 lbs to go.

915

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

The only Front Squat Assistance I did was ab work as I felt the total volume from the Deadlift day was enough. I feel doing more than that was overkill.

That’s how I got my 600 Deadlift (Beltless) and 405 Front Squat (Beltless and Paused).[/quote]

Yep I remeber that from the last page conversation. Well i will certainly be running the conan for my DL day. For squat day i dunno if i can go that low of volume considering the weight i would use for front squat would be pretty small. So i might have to do some assistance for quads with it. It would be a huge drop in leg volume for me.[/quote]

Less is more, and even if you were back squatting during the deadlift time, you’re suppose to put Squat on maintenance , the way I manage the overall tonnage and volume was to go low volume and bringing up my Front Squat, killing two birds with one stone.

What’s more important, bringing your Deadlift up and bringing up both lifts up at the same time? If the latter, I wouldn’t do a Deadlift Specialization routine.[/quote]

Less more has nver worked for my mind lol. Probably one of the reasons strength has never progressed the way it should. I do too much. Cant help it. Mainly looking to bring my dead of and just looking to add some strength to my front squat. I dont back squat as it doesnt agree with meand my previous injuries and my structure. I most likely will never PL so that makes me not Front squat. My squat routine it heavy Trap bar dead, front squat, Bulgarian split squat, leg press, leg ext. THat is on Thus then SUnday Deadlift day is conventional deads, RDLs, Trap bar dead stop explosive RDLs. Leg curls. 5 work sets for all exercises except the Trap bar dead and conventional dead whihc i use a template from CT’s strength program. Thats why i was thinking the volume would not be a problem :slight_smile: Most exercises have been increasing in strength evne with all that fun i have[/quote]

lolwut, re-write that in proper grammar please, I don’t think I understand what you said too well, but

I highly doubt your body doesn’t agree with back squatting, I bet your technique just sucks.

Post a video on my log and prove me wrong :slight_smile:

Your leg day doesn’t seem to have a proper sort of periodization to it, which the Coan Bench and Deadlift routines have, so you can’t just add a periodized plan and then have a free day, it all has to fit together, otherwise the success rate will greatly diminish.[/quote]

Lol i have all my stuff posted in my log. I am not looking to have you write me up a program or anything. Mainly just picking your brain. I am built pretty close to ashy from what i can see form his vids. Long legs/femurs relative to torso and vey long arms all things relative as well. But ashy has better mobility than I do. So does my form suck. sure does my mobility suck, sure. If i posted a vid i would prove you right but i also do know i am not built for good back squats. to get to depth requires too much forward lean for my lower back to be happy.

My leg day has no periodization in terms of PLing type stuff as of now. Its a BB type training with a strength element to kick things off.[/quote]

Then disregard my advice on the Coan training, it’s apples to oranges in what your goals are.

916

Lol, I don’t cut weight so I’m going to be whatever weight class I weigh the morning of my meet(s)

917

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
Lol, I don’t cut weight so I’m going to be whatever weight class I weigh the morning of my meet(s)[/quote]

Dude, you’re so Wendler…

918

[quote]ajweins wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
Lol, I don’t cut weight so I’m going to be whatever weight class I weigh the morning of my meet(s)[/quote]

Dude, you’re so Wendler…[/quote]

LOL Dude don’t insult me like that ahaha

919

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
Deta can you post a vid of you benching soon, including set up.

I have been switching over to flat footed benching, as is required by USAPL, however I find my arch has diminished from it, would like to see someone used to the styles set up.[/quote]

Absolutely, I’ll do a set up video tomorrow before I do my regular workout.[/quote]

Danke sch�¶n!

And x33333 the earlier the better, I am doing a chest workout around 630.[/quote]

I wasn’t able to do my bench set up video because my guys were shirting up today and I didn’t want to ruin their training chemistry to do a video

Sorry :frowning:

920

Upper Workout

  1. Close Grip Incline (CGI) with fat grips - 5x10 + (5 pullups between sets)
  2. Chest Supported Rows CSR-(keep shoulder blades squeezed/lats back entire set) + DB OHP (5x10 each)
  3. Band Pushdown (20) + Face Pull (12-15) + Hammer Curls (12-15) 3x

Just getting back into the swing of things. Went for the swole today. My weight is back up to 210-212lbs. I’ll be carb cycling this training cycle. I’m looking forward to the results.