The Portal of Det Azathoth

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]BlueLineCretin wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]BlueLineCretin wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]BlueLineCretin wrote:
hahahahahahahahaha, oh man, this is good[/quote]

Which part?[/quote]

well, you handled that a little differently than i had anticipated. I’m sure you’ve posted your logs from IM, but i think it would behoove some people to actually read them.[/quote]

I’m still lost

Do you mean the poster saying how bad an idea doing MS plans are? Or substituting the main lifts? Or weight cuts?[/quote]

Sorry buddy, i was referring to the poster questioning your MS plans. Having read your other logs and seeing the amount of time you put into planning your routines, it just struck me as funny.[/quote]

It’s quite alright, I thought I missed the joke or something for a second.

Yeah, I think it’s funny that someone would be worried if I burnt out or can’t handle a training plan. I understand how hard it’s going to be, I mean I have the total tonnage and volume charts right in front of me, the MS plans are going to suck, the first one especially.

However… this is why I said I’m running the table and putting everything into this plan because I feel my time for Powerlifting Greatness starts this year for me. I’ve learned enough under my Coaches about Periodization and I know how to manipulate the variables well enough to cater to my individuality.

I appreciate the concern, but think of this as a testament to my will, not only will I be fine during my next prep, but I’ll thrive under the system.[/quote]

Hey I didn’t say it couldn’t work, but most people wouldn’t find it the most productive use of time. I have ran CMS 1 twice now and know it is certainly not impossible by any stretch of the words… Again though, let me say again that there is no such thing as a “CMS 1 template”… These programs you find online are just examples of a program that a lifter of a certain class be following. Now your total must be CMS or MS I guess (too lazy to check). So that being said, a program along these lines would be a great idea. Doing a ‘prep’ type cycle for 15 weeks could work, but I was just saying to be cautious. More is definitely not neccesarily more.

For interest sake you might like to know this… The current russian team actually follows this as their pattern (for the M sq/bp and W first DL) with some variation of course:

80% 5-7x3
80% +5-10kg 5-7x2
80% +5-10kg 5-7x3
80% 5-7x3
80% +10-15kg 5-7x2
80% +10-15kg 5-7x3

etc etc…

Anyways, just think it’s good to take the time to second and third and fourth guess your plans to make sure you are making them for the right reasons. I am by no means Mike Tuscherer but I have a CMS total with under 2 years of training so I feel that I have been efficient and smart about my training. I will continue to follow the log because you clearly take your training seriously and do some great lifting. Again, not tryign to an ass or anything but just wanted to make sure you thought your plans through.

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Just stopping by to show support. Not really a PL’er or anything, but you seem to be both very strong, and very intelligent. I feel like as someone a lot less experienced, I’ll probably learn a lot just creeping in you log every so often. Keep it up, man.[/quote]

Thanks man, I appreciate the support.

[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Carlos, I want to hear all about your weight cutting fails. What’s your problem dood?[/quote]

I’ve done 20lb weight cuts, and not cut fast enough for a 24 hour weigh in

[quote]BlueLineCretin wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]BlueLineCretin wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]BlueLineCretin wrote:
hahahahahahahahaha, oh man, this is good[/quote]

Which part?[/quote]

well, you handled that a little differently than i had anticipated. I’m sure you’ve posted your logs from IM, but i think it would behoove some people to actually read them.[/quote]

I’m still lost

Do you mean the poster saying how bad an idea doing MS plans are? Or substituting the main lifts? Or weight cuts?[/quote]

Sorry buddy, i was referring to the poster questioning your MS plans. Having read your other logs and seeing the amount of time you put into planning your routines, it just struck me as funny.[/quote]

It will a good experiment regardless of what happens during my CMS training.

I’m excited for it. I also like the fact that I have a poster that thinks it won’t be the most productive use of training time.

Only one way to find out.

Week 4

Monday

Squat, Beltless

55% 1x3 295lbs
65% 1x2 350lbs
70% 1x2 380lbs
80% 2x2 430lbs

Bench

55% 2x2 230lbs
65% 2x2 274lbs
80% 4x3 335lbs

Facepulls - 5x10

GHR - 5x5

God, can’t wait until you smash your own PR’s doing something that you’ve clearly put thought into despite people saying it’s wrong.

Waiting anxiously for results.

^strong story-telling ability in your above response btw. brb acting like you have cool stories and then not telling them.

[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
God, can’t wait until you smash your own PR’s doing something that you’ve clearly put thought into despite people saying it’s wrong.

Waiting anxiously for results.

^strong story-telling ability in your above response btw. brb acting like you have cool stories and then not telling them. [/quote]

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Epic Fail Is Epic

Wednesday

Bench

55% 2x3 230lbs
65% 1x2 275lbs
70% 1x2 295lbs
80% 2x2 335lbs

Deadlift, Beltless

50% 2x2 325lbs
65% 1x1 420lbs
70% 1x1 450lbs
80% 2x2 515lbs

Facepulls - 5x10

Lunges - 5x5

Friday

Squat

55% 3x2 295lbs
65% 1x2 350lbs
80% 2x2 430lbs

Bench

55% 1x2 230lbs
65% 1x1 275lbs
75% 1x2 315lbs

Facepulls - 5x10

GHR - 5x5

Det can you explain a little bit more about CMS/MS? Is that programming run for someone who has a total that meets those requirements? Thats what it seems to be to me but I can’t exactly tell. And you don’t deload between programs do you? Like if my plan was to run 29 37 32 one day, theres no deload inbetween you just head straight into the next and add 5-10lbs to you maxes right?

Week 5 - Meet week

Monday

Deadlift, Beltless

50% 1x3 325lbs
60% 2x3 390lbs
70% 2x3 450lbs

Bench, Competition Grip

50% 1x3 210lbs
60% 2x3 250lbs
70% 2x2 295lbs
75% 1x2 315lbs

[quote]PlainPat wrote:
Det can you explain a little bit more about CMS/MS? Is that programming run for someone who has a total that meets those requirements? Thats what it seems to be to me but I can’t exactly tell. And you don’t deload between programs do you? Like if my plan was to run 29 37 32 one day, theres no deload inbetween you just head straight into the next and add 5-10lbs to you maxes right?[/quote]

CMS/MS - you do that programming when your total meet those requirements, they’re not for everybody.

You only do #32 when you’re getting ready for your meet, otherwise do another monthly plan and add 6.25lbs to your training maxes

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]PlainPat wrote:
Det can you explain a little bit more about CMS/MS? Is that programming run for someone who has a total that meets those requirements? Thats what it seems to be to me but I can’t exactly tell. And you don’t deload between programs do you? Like if my plan was to run 29 37 32 one day, theres no deload inbetween you just head straight into the next and add 5-10lbs to you maxes right?[/quote]

CMS/MS - you do that programming when your total meet those requirements, they’re not for everybody.

You only do #32 when you’re getting ready for your meet, otherwise do another monthly plan and add 6.25lbs to your training maxes [/quote]

Lolz specifically 6.25?

[quote]PlainPat wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]PlainPat wrote:
Det can you explain a little bit more about CMS/MS? Is that programming run for someone who has a total that meets those requirements? Thats what it seems to be to me but I can’t exactly tell. And you don’t deload between programs do you? Like if my plan was to run 29 37 32 one day, theres no deload inbetween you just head straight into the next and add 5-10lbs to you maxes right?[/quote]

CMS/MS - you do that programming when your total meet those requirements, they’re not for everybody.

You only do #32 when you’re getting ready for your meet, otherwise do another monthly plan and add 6.25lbs to your training maxes [/quote]

Lolz specifically 6.25? [/quote]

Yes

80% * 6.25 = 5. I wanted to increase the rate that I was progressing on the three lifts, but the occasional 10lb jump on 80% work seemed like a bit much. This way, you make a 5lb jump on the 80% sets every time and it will take 16 jumps to get to the point where 85% makes a 10lb jump.

Yes, I really sit around and think about stuff like this.

These are couple of team-mates of mine that I coach, and write out their training programs for

I’ll post some of their updates for the future meets they’ll be getting ready for in this training log of mine as well.

Fucking Steve’s powerbelly is epic. Monster.

Can’t wait to make a cameo with you guys once I’m eating more than 1000 cals. <3

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]PlainPat wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]PlainPat wrote:
Det can you explain a little bit more about CMS/MS? Is that programming run for someone who has a total that meets those requirements? Thats what it seems to be to me but I can’t exactly tell. And you don’t deload between programs do you? Like if my plan was to run 29 37 32 one day, theres no deload inbetween you just head straight into the next and add 5-10lbs to you maxes right?[/quote]

CMS/MS - you do that programming when your total meet those requirements, they’re not for everybody.

You only do #32 when you’re getting ready for your meet, otherwise do another monthly plan and add 6.25lbs to your training maxes [/quote]

Lolz specifically 6.25? [/quote]

Yes

80% * 6.25 = 5. I wanted to increase the rate that I was progressing on the three lifts, but the occasional 10lb jump on 80% work seemed like a bit much. This way, you make a 5lb jump on the 80% sets every time and it will take 16 jumps to get to the point where 85% makes a 10lb jump.

Yes, I really sit around and think about stuff like this.[/quote]

… This is scarily accurate. You actually write programs for people? I thought stronghold did all that shits

[quote]PlainPat wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]PlainPat wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]PlainPat wrote:
Det can you explain a little bit more about CMS/MS? Is that programming run for someone who has a total that meets those requirements? Thats what it seems to be to me but I can’t exactly tell. And you don’t deload between programs do you? Like if my plan was to run 29 37 32 one day, theres no deload inbetween you just head straight into the next and add 5-10lbs to you maxes right?[/quote]

CMS/MS - you do that programming when your total meet those requirements, they’re not for everybody.

You only do #32 when you’re getting ready for your meet, otherwise do another monthly plan and add 6.25lbs to your training maxes [/quote]

Lolz specifically 6.25? [/quote]

Yes

80% * 6.25 = 5. I wanted to increase the rate that I was progressing on the three lifts, but the occasional 10lb jump on 80% work seemed like a bit much. This way, you make a 5lb jump on the 80% sets every time and it will take 16 jumps to get to the point where 85% makes a 10lb jump.

Yes, I really sit around and think about stuff like this.[/quote]

… This is scarily accurate. You actually write programs for people? I thought stronghold did all that shits[/quote]

I’m really nerdy and I’m good at math? Haha

Stronghold writes programs for my multi-ply endeavors, I generally tend to to stick to doing programs like Sheiko for my raw work.

I write out training programs for my guys, I can’t really write stuff for myself because I’ll get “paralysis by analysis” syndrome if I do.

[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
Fucking Steve’s powerbelly is epic. Monster.

Can’t wait to make a cameo with you guys once I’m eating more than 1000 cals. <3[/quote]

The ridiculousness of that power belly is because of the ab training I’ve been forcing him to do, he’s actually leaner since the last time you saw him.

Yeah, I plan to have more videos keeping track of Team Douchebag’s training since the boys are doing more exciting lifting than me since my training is pretty dry.

Wednesday - Meet Week

Last Day of Training

Squat, Beltless

50% 1x3 270lbs
60% 2x3 325lbs
70% 3x2 380lbs

Bench

50% 1x3 210lbs
60% 2x3 250lbs
70% 2x2 295lbs