The Open Boat

I think Tony G’s new article is extremely relevant to you. Namely page 2.

[quote]Nadia Comeandeat wrote:

Today 3-3-3 MP

I didn’t feel strong today, but I got through it. Shameful amounts of rest occurred btw pullup sets. It sucked, because I’m lighter than usual, but damn I was weak. could be the diet, could be because I’ve bumped up my mileage, could be because I’m busy and stressed at work, could be just an off day. So many variables. I’m not going to worry. I am going to eat a ridiculous amount of cookies today though.
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pause. Ok, I must have missed something because I’m pretty sure I saw bear tell you yer eating toxins, and like five people said you might need a deload. Then, I read this ^

Nadia, darling. I love your drive but I (and your body) definitely need an explanation.

I like Cal’s post too.

xoxo

[quote]Cal Jones wrote:
I think Tony G’s new article is extremely relevant to you. Namely page 2.

Thanks Cal, I like that active rest day. I look forward to trying that out one day.

So uhm… yeah Nadia.
Listen to your body babe.

Nikki out <3

I feel obtuse. Admittedly, I’ve made some mistakes in my implementation of 5-3-1 this cycle–by going to failure when going for a rep pr and by failing to pick my battles. But, I still don’t think I’m over-trained or am over-training generally.

Since the inception of this log I have struggled with prioritizing my activities. Am I runner who lifts or a lifter who runs? I don’t know. I have a 10k tomorrow. I was supposed to do my BBB squats today, and I didn’t. See. I know how to take it easy. Some weeks I do better than others. But overall, my training has been marked by improvement.

I appreciate the concern. And it gives me pause. I may not have felt great today, but i hit all my sets. I don’t think I need a deload. I’m only half way through my 3-3-3 week! I must just be overly whiney. I have high expectations for myself, and I underestimated the difficulty of my pullup assignment. I thought it would feel easier than it did. But I think it is ok that it was hard. My body is fine.

mm k.

i don’t like deloads either.
i might have a go at that active recovery day tomorrow…

good luck with your 10k.

Heh, I know it must be annoying to have everyone express concern when you feel you know your body better than we do. However - and please excuse me for saying this - it does sound a wee bit like an addict justifying one more hit of whatever before they straighten up. I know because I’m like this with food. I’ll tell myself “oh I’ll have one more day of eating yummy stuff and then eat clean from tomorrow.” But tomorrow never comes and suddenly I’m 10lbs heavier and can’t fit into my clothes. And in your case it’ll be a case of adrenal fatigue and an injury or two, which is a little more serious.

Good luck with the 10K. I’m sure you’ll do much better than I did with mine.

Sorry to hear that you felt you had a less than stellar workout. I do believe that all the variables you listed contributed to feeling meh, so its understandable. And props to you for abstaining from the squatting in light of the 10k today - and don’t do make up your squat day after today’s run either, you maniac!

Good luck on the run!

Even on a weak MP day you blow me out of the water. Damn.

On Thurs. nite I ate a fantastic Italian meal. Dessert was Nutella bread pudding and I thought of you.

Alexus: I don’t mind deloading. I deload every three weeks as per 5-3-1. And during my deload, I stay completely out of the gym. I still run though.

Cal: I guess there could be worse things to be addicted to.

Masch: You know me so well. I did have it in my mind to do my BBB squats after my run. And, because I felt ok, I did them. No biggie. Just light and quick.

KImba: Thanks. My MP day was ok numbers wise. I just didn’t feel as strong as I would have liked.

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Training: 10k Run 52:36 (pace per mile 8:28). I was 2nd in my age group, and 48th out of 670 women.

This is a pr. I haven’t run a true 10k in several years. My previous (before I started lifting and when my mileage was much more substantial) 10k times were: 58.14 (pace per mile of 9:22) and 56:35 (pace per mile of 9:06).

The course was an out and back one-- my favorite kind. At the 2-4 mile mark I saw the leaders–two men?they were minutes ahead of the next runners. Over the next mile, I checked out the rest of the runners ahead of me. And, at the 3 mile turn around point, I surveyed the runners behind me.

By the time I made it back to the 2-4 mile mark all the runners had passed. Only walkers were left to make their way. The course was tough because a lot of it was on a gravely road and the rocks made for difficult footing. I, more than once, longed for the familiar hard paved surfaces I normally run on.

At the finish line, I had no desire to try to kick. But the girl behind me did. She might have been 12. And she went by me at a pace that made me feel like I was standing still. I marveled at how much distance she put between us over the last tenth of a mile. I didn’t mind. I enjoyed watching her bound ahead of me. She was a beautiful runner. She made the movement look effortless.

I felt fine when I finished. And when I got home I changed in to dry clothes and did my missed BBB squats. Squats are a priority for me now. I kept it easy and just got the volume in laddering up and back down.
Barx10; 65x10; 75x10; 85x10; 75x10; 65x10.

I’m sorry hon, I wasn’t trying to tell you what your body wants. And I will rarely say “deload”.
But yesterday I had to take an off day although I didn’t want it. And it will throw off my schedule a bit. I’m kind of OCD in that regard, and don’t like to shift days back.
But thinking about it, you did recently have gymnastic only days or whatever. So like you said, I guess it was more of a mental issue than physical.

Congrats on the 10k time.
Lol at you doing the BBB squats afterwards =D

Congrats on your pr for the run! :smiley:

I would also like to say “I love de-loads”! :stuck_out_tongue:
^I figure with everyone having problems with it I’d add my bit too. tee hee

The de-loads was why I picked 5/3/1 it had progress and de-loads built into the program.

As far as changing diet or exercise routines are concerned, I figure that when you stop making progress, that is a good time to re-evaluate, so if all is still working and you are not injured then why change?

your efriends care about you and want u to stay healthy (read- around here) as long as possible. that’s why the suggestions to cool it.

you’re gonna do what nads does and thats why we love ya.

Helloooooo Nadia!

your an Animaniac :smiley:

Fantastic run! That’s a whole 10 minutes faster than I can run it (although I suppose you are lugging about 40lbs less around the course, heh). Being second in your age group is excellent.

yeah, congrats on your run! i think i’d like the there and back aspect where you can suss out the field as you go, too.

[quote]Nadia Comeandeat wrote:

Masch: You know me so well. I did have it in my mind to do my BBB squats after my run. And, because I felt ok, I did them. No biggie. Just light and quick.

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Lol! Love it. And like you said, the squatting went well. This is why I feel I can’t advise on your training; if I were you I would’ve done the same, and only you know how your body responds and when to push. Good work!

Congrats on the run!

That’s a fab 10K run time. Congrats.

Congratulations Nadia-a PR and 2nd in your age class is truly something to feel proud of.

WOW! Look at that 10K time and that pace! I am wildly happy for you, and wildly jealous of you all at once.

Only you can know what you need, Nadia. Keep going with your usual beautiful style!