Sidenote: Most top crossfitters used to be collegiate athletes.
The most impressive,well rounded athlete is cristiano ronaldo
[quote]stevekweli wrote:
The most impressive,well rounded athlete is cristiano ronaldo[/quote]
alright fuck all this shit.
This chick is most well rounded.
[quote]stevekweli wrote:
The most impressive,well rounded athlete is cristiano ronaldo[/quote]
No way dude, definitely David Beckam. Have you seen his abs??? And that wife GotDamn!
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?q=eva+andressa&safe=off&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=svciU7eUJ4O4yQGbrIDABw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=667
alright fuck all this shit.
This chick is most well rounded. [/quote]
THREAD/
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
Also, to the guy who said that endurance doesnât really matter - really? Endurance is the ONLY area in which our species has the leg up on all other animals.
[/quote]
I seriously doubt this is true. How would you even prove it?[/quote]
Huh, funny I thought that was the case, but I guess not. There are a few animals out there than can out run humans for endurance:
Iâll admit it, my argument of humans being âtop-dogâ when it comes to endurance is invalid. [/quote]
just as an example here is someone that isnât even the best in his sport.
Dean Karnazes, an ultra marathoner, ran 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days and did the NYC marathon as his final in 3 hrs. started to run back to San Francisco but stopped in Missouri to spend more time with his family.
ran from Disneyland to New York in 75 days.
Ran 350 miles in 80 hours and 44 minutes without sleep.
148 miles in 24 hours on a treadmill.
swam across San Francisco Bay
completed The Relay, 200 mile race ran by teams of ten that each person runs 10 miles then is driven to their next stage, solo at least 11 times.
won(several top 5 finishes) the Badwater Ultra in under 28 hrs(not the record time). itâs 135 miles starting in Badwater Basin Death Vally @280â below sea level and climbs to @8400â on Mt Whitney in July.
Western States 100 where runners climb a total of 18,090 feet and descend a total of 22,970 feet through the Sierra Nevadas and have to finish in under 30 hrs. 11 time Silver Buckleholder(finish under 24 hrs)
won the 4 Deserts Grand Slam, 4 155 mi races, in 1 yr, through the Atacama Crossing(avg 8000â elev) in March, Gobi in June, Sahara in October, and Antarctica in November. each race take place over seven days and six stages. A campsite is raised each night for competitors where they are provided a tent to sleep, hot water, campfire, and medical assistance. they must carry all their own supplies with them during the race.
name a single animal that can do all these races.
[/quote]
Please name a single animal that dedicates time to training.
[/quote]
every day they survive is a training day in one form or another.
the article was a comparison of animal vs human in a marathon situation. it said each animal could exced a human in a marathon.
camel can go a long way but not in the mountains or Antarctica. dog sled team wouldnât do well in Death Valley.
a human has the capacity to go way beyond a marathon and in different environments. the ability to adapt and specialize at the same time.
what is the most impressive, well rounded athlete in the animal kingdom?
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
Also, to the guy who said that endurance doesnât really matter - really? Endurance is the ONLY area in which our species has the leg up on all other animals.
[/quote]
I seriously doubt this is true. How would you even prove it?[/quote]
Huh, funny I thought that was the case, but I guess not. There are a few animals out there than can out run humans for endurance:
Iâll admit it, my argument of humans being âtop-dogâ when it comes to endurance is invalid. [/quote]
just as an example here is someone that isnât even the best in his sport.
Dean Karnazes, an ultra marathoner, ran 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days and did the NYC marathon as his final in 3 hrs. started to run back to San Francisco but stopped in Missouri to spend more time with his family.
ran from Disneyland to New York in 75 days.
Ran 350 miles in 80 hours and 44 minutes without sleep.
148 miles in 24 hours on a treadmill.
swam across San Francisco Bay
completed The Relay, 200 mile race ran by teams of ten that each person runs 10 miles then is driven to their next stage, solo at least 11 times.
won(several top 5 finishes) the Badwater Ultra in under 28 hrs(not the record time). itâs 135 miles starting in Badwater Basin Death Vally @280â below sea level and climbs to @8400â on Mt Whitney in July.
Western States 100 where runners climb a total of 18,090 feet and descend a total of 22,970 feet through the Sierra Nevadas and have to finish in under 30 hrs. 11 time Silver Buckleholder(finish under 24 hrs)
won the 4 Deserts Grand Slam, 4 155 mi races, in 1 yr, through the Atacama Crossing(avg 8000â elev) in March, Gobi in June, Sahara in October, and Antarctica in November. each race take place over seven days and six stages. A campsite is raised each night for competitors where they are provided a tent to sleep, hot water, campfire, and medical assistance. they must carry all their own supplies with them during the race.
name a single animal that can do all these races.
[/quote]
Please name a single animal that dedicates time to training.
[/quote]
every day they survive is a training day in one form or another.
the article was a comparison of animal vs human in a marathon situation. it said each animal could exced a human in a marathon.
camel can go a long way but not in the mountains or Antarctica. dog sled team wouldnât do well in Death Valley.
a human has the capacity to go way beyond a marathon and in different environments. the ability to adapt and specialize at the same time.
what is the most impressive, well rounded athlete in the animal kingdom?[/quote]
Dude we ended this thread.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
Also, to the guy who said that endurance doesnât really matter - really? Endurance is the ONLY area in which our species has the leg up on all other animals.
[/quote]
I seriously doubt this is true. How would you even prove it?[/quote]
Huh, funny I thought that was the case, but I guess not. There are a few animals out there than can out run humans for endurance:
Iâll admit it, my argument of humans being âtop-dogâ when it comes to endurance is invalid. [/quote]
just as an example here is someone that isnât even the best in his sport.
Dean Karnazes, an ultra marathoner, ran 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days and did the NYC marathon as his final in 3 hrs. started to run back to San Francisco but stopped in Missouri to spend more time with his family.
ran from Disneyland to New York in 75 days.
Ran 350 miles in 80 hours and 44 minutes without sleep.
148 miles in 24 hours on a treadmill.
swam across San Francisco Bay
completed The Relay, 200 mile race ran by teams of ten that each person runs 10 miles then is driven to their next stage, solo at least 11 times.
won(several top 5 finishes) the Badwater Ultra in under 28 hrs(not the record time). itâs 135 miles starting in Badwater Basin Death Vally @280â below sea level and climbs to @8400â on Mt Whitney in July.
Western States 100 where runners climb a total of 18,090 feet and descend a total of 22,970 feet through the Sierra Nevadas and have to finish in under 30 hrs. 11 time Silver Buckleholder(finish under 24 hrs)
won the 4 Deserts Grand Slam, 4 155 mi races, in 1 yr, through the Atacama Crossing(avg 8000â elev) in March, Gobi in June, Sahara in October, and Antarctica in November. each race take place over seven days and six stages. A campsite is raised each night for competitors where they are provided a tent to sleep, hot water, campfire, and medical assistance. they must carry all their own supplies with them during the race.
name a single animal that can do all these races.
[/quote]
Please name a single animal that dedicates time to training.
[/quote]
every day they survive is a training day in one form or another.
the article was a comparison of animal vs human in a marathon situation. it said each animal could exced a human in a marathon.
camel can go a long way but not in the mountains or Antarctica. dog sled team wouldnât do well in Death Valley.
a human has the capacity to go way beyond a marathon and in different environments. the ability to adapt and specialize at the same time.
what is the most impressive, well rounded athlete in the animal kingdom?[/quote]
Dude we ended this thread. [/quote]
I know, but we know it will be resurrected in one form or another at a later date. ///////
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
Also, to the guy who said that endurance doesnât really matter - really? Endurance is the ONLY area in which our species has the leg up on all other animals.
[/quote]
I seriously doubt this is true. How would you even prove it?[/quote]
Huh, funny I thought that was the case, but I guess not. There are a few animals out there than can out run humans for endurance:
Iâll admit it, my argument of humans being âtop-dogâ when it comes to endurance is invalid. [/quote]
just as an example here is someone that isnât even the best in his sport.
Dean Karnazes, an ultra marathoner, ran 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days and did the NYC marathon as his final in 3 hrs. started to run back to San Francisco but stopped in Missouri to spend more time with his family.
ran from Disneyland to New York in 75 days.
Ran 350 miles in 80 hours and 44 minutes without sleep.
148 miles in 24 hours on a treadmill.
swam across San Francisco Bay
completed The Relay, 200 mile race ran by teams of ten that each person runs 10 miles then is driven to their next stage, solo at least 11 times.
won(several top 5 finishes) the Badwater Ultra in under 28 hrs(not the record time). itâs 135 miles starting in Badwater Basin Death Vally @280â below sea level and climbs to @8400â on Mt Whitney in July.
Western States 100 where runners climb a total of 18,090 feet and descend a total of 22,970 feet through the Sierra Nevadas and have to finish in under 30 hrs. 11 time Silver Buckleholder(finish under 24 hrs)
won the 4 Deserts Grand Slam, 4 155 mi races, in 1 yr, through the Atacama Crossing(avg 8000â elev) in March, Gobi in June, Sahara in October, and Antarctica in November. each race take place over seven days and six stages. A campsite is raised each night for competitors where they are provided a tent to sleep, hot water, campfire, and medical assistance. they must carry all their own supplies with them during the race.
name a single animal that can do all these races.
[/quote]
Please name a single animal that dedicates time to training.
[/quote]
every day they survive is a training day in one form or another.
the article was a comparison of animal vs human in a marathon situation. it said each animal could exced a human in a marathon.
camel can go a long way but not in the mountains or Antarctica. dog sled team wouldnât do well in Death Valley.
a human has the capacity to go way beyond a marathon and in different environments. the ability to adapt and specialize at the same time.
what is the most impressive, well rounded athlete in the animal kingdom?[/quote]
Dude we ended this thread. [/quote]
I know, but we know it will be resurrected in one form or another at a later date. ///////[/quote]
NO ITS OVER
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
Also, to the guy who said that endurance doesnât really matter - really? Endurance is the ONLY area in which our species has the leg up on all other animals.
[/quote]
I seriously doubt this is true. How would you even prove it?[/quote]
Huh, funny I thought that was the case, but I guess not. There are a few animals out there than can out run humans for endurance:
Iâll admit it, my argument of humans being âtop-dogâ when it comes to endurance is invalid. [/quote]
just as an example here is someone that isnât even the best in his sport.
Dean Karnazes, an ultra marathoner, ran 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days and did the NYC marathon as his final in 3 hrs. started to run back to San Francisco but stopped in Missouri to spend more time with his family.
ran from Disneyland to New York in 75 days.
Ran 350 miles in 80 hours and 44 minutes without sleep.
148 miles in 24 hours on a treadmill.
swam across San Francisco Bay
completed The Relay, 200 mile race ran by teams of ten that each person runs 10 miles then is driven to their next stage, solo at least 11 times.
won(several top 5 finishes) the Badwater Ultra in under 28 hrs(not the record time). itâs 135 miles starting in Badwater Basin Death Vally @280â below sea level and climbs to @8400â on Mt Whitney in July.
Western States 100 where runners climb a total of 18,090 feet and descend a total of 22,970 feet through the Sierra Nevadas and have to finish in under 30 hrs. 11 time Silver Buckleholder(finish under 24 hrs)
won the 4 Deserts Grand Slam, 4 155 mi races, in 1 yr, through the Atacama Crossing(avg 8000â elev) in March, Gobi in June, Sahara in October, and Antarctica in November. each race take place over seven days and six stages. A campsite is raised each night for competitors where they are provided a tent to sleep, hot water, campfire, and medical assistance. they must carry all their own supplies with them during the race.
name a single animal that can do all these races.
[/quote]
Please name a single animal that dedicates time to training.
[/quote]
every day they survive is a training day in one form or another.
the article was a comparison of animal vs human in a marathon situation. it said each animal could exced a human in a marathon.
camel can go a long way but not in the mountains or Antarctica. dog sled team wouldnât do well in Death Valley.
a human has the capacity to go way beyond a marathon and in different environments. the ability to adapt and specialize at the same time.
what is the most impressive, well rounded athlete in the animal kingdom?[/quote]
I donât think survival and training are not the same. Ya, certain animals thrive under certain conditions and humans are no different. It just so happens Under Armour sells 17 layers of cold gear and 19 kinds of sweat wicking gear⊠Plus we have water bottles, packaged food, etc⊠so we can extend our âtrainingâ. Not because itâs necessary to survival, but because we want to. If animals âwanted toâ I think a lot of them could certain out run your ultra marathoners.
P.S. threads can only be ended by Derekâs âotherâ picturesâŠ
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
Also, to the guy who said that endurance doesnât really matter - really? Endurance is the ONLY area in which our species has the leg up on all other animals.
[/quote]
I seriously doubt this is true. How would you even prove it?[/quote]
Huh, funny I thought that was the case, but I guess not. There are a few animals out there than can out run humans for endurance:
Iâll admit it, my argument of humans being âtop-dogâ when it comes to endurance is invalid. [/quote]
just as an example here is someone that isnât even the best in his sport.
Dean Karnazes, an ultra marathoner, ran 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days and did the NYC marathon as his final in 3 hrs. started to run back to San Francisco but stopped in Missouri to spend more time with his family.
ran from Disneyland to New York in 75 days.
Ran 350 miles in 80 hours and 44 minutes without sleep.
148 miles in 24 hours on a treadmill.
swam across San Francisco Bay
completed The Relay, 200 mile race ran by teams of ten that each person runs 10 miles then is driven to their next stage, solo at least 11 times.
won(several top 5 finishes) the Badwater Ultra in under 28 hrs(not the record time). itâs 135 miles starting in Badwater Basin Death Vally @280â below sea level and climbs to @8400â on Mt Whitney in July.
Western States 100 where runners climb a total of 18,090 feet and descend a total of 22,970 feet through the Sierra Nevadas and have to finish in under 30 hrs. 11 time Silver Buckleholder(finish under 24 hrs)
won the 4 Deserts Grand Slam, 4 155 mi races, in 1 yr, through the Atacama Crossing(avg 8000â elev) in March, Gobi in June, Sahara in October, and Antarctica in November. each race take place over seven days and six stages. A campsite is raised each night for competitors where they are provided a tent to sleep, hot water, campfire, and medical assistance. they must carry all their own supplies with them during the race.
name a single animal that can do all these races.
[/quote]
Please name a single animal that dedicates time to training.
[/quote]
every day they survive is a training day in one form or another.
the article was a comparison of animal vs human in a marathon situation. it said each animal could exced a human in a marathon.
camel can go a long way but not in the mountains or Antarctica. dog sled team wouldnât do well in Death Valley.
a human has the capacity to go way beyond a marathon and in different environments. the ability to adapt and specialize at the same time.
what is the most impressive, well rounded athlete in the animal kingdom?[/quote]
Dude we ended this thread. [/quote]
I know, but we know it will be resurrected in one form or another at a later date. ///////[/quote]
NO ITS OVER[/quote]
NOTHING IS OVER!!
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
Also, to the guy who said that endurance doesnât really matter - really? Endurance is the ONLY area in which our species has the leg up on all other animals.
[/quote]
I seriously doubt this is true. How would you even prove it?[/quote]
Huh, funny I thought that was the case, but I guess not. There are a few animals out there than can out run humans for endurance:
Iâll admit it, my argument of humans being âtop-dogâ when it comes to endurance is invalid. [/quote]
just as an example here is someone that isnât even the best in his sport.
Dean Karnazes, an ultra marathoner, ran 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days and did the NYC marathon as his final in 3 hrs. started to run back to San Francisco but stopped in Missouri to spend more time with his family.
ran from Disneyland to New York in 75 days.
Ran 350 miles in 80 hours and 44 minutes without sleep.
148 miles in 24 hours on a treadmill.
swam across San Francisco Bay
completed The Relay, 200 mile race ran by teams of ten that each person runs 10 miles then is driven to their next stage, solo at least 11 times.
won(several top 5 finishes) the Badwater Ultra in under 28 hrs(not the record time). itâs 135 miles starting in Badwater Basin Death Vally @280â below sea level and climbs to @8400â on Mt Whitney in July.
Western States 100 where runners climb a total of 18,090 feet and descend a total of 22,970 feet through the Sierra Nevadas and have to finish in under 30 hrs. 11 time Silver Buckleholder(finish under 24 hrs)
won the 4 Deserts Grand Slam, 4 155 mi races, in 1 yr, through the Atacama Crossing(avg 8000â elev) in March, Gobi in June, Sahara in October, and Antarctica in November. each race take place over seven days and six stages. A campsite is raised each night for competitors where they are provided a tent to sleep, hot water, campfire, and medical assistance. they must carry all their own supplies with them during the race.
name a single animal that can do all these races.
[/quote]
Please name a single animal that dedicates time to training.
[/quote]
every day they survive is a training day in one form or another.
the article was a comparison of animal vs human in a marathon situation. it said each animal could exced a human in a marathon.
camel can go a long way but not in the mountains or Antarctica. dog sled team wouldnât do well in Death Valley.
a human has the capacity to go way beyond a marathon and in different environments. the ability to adapt and specialize at the same time.
what is the most impressive, well rounded athlete in the animal kingdom?[/quote]
I donât think survival and training are not the same. Ya, certain animals thrive under certain conditions and humans are no different. It just so happens Under Armour sells 17 layers of cold gear and 19 kinds of sweat wicking gear⊠Plus we have water bottles, packaged food, etc⊠so we can extend our âtrainingâ. Not because itâs necessary to survival, but because we want to. If animals âwanted toâ I think a lot of them could certain out run your ultra marathoners.
P.S. threads can only be ended by Derekâs âotherâ picturesâŠ[/quote]
That is not the round I was thinking about sir.
@ bdocksaints75, yes!
@ Derek, YES!
[quote]ziah wrote:
[quote]
Out of all the athletic attributes that have been discussed in this forum, I think cardiovascular endurance is the easiest and fastest to train and improve. There are far more humans who can run extraordinarily long distances, compete in ironman triathlons, etc than there are humans who can do the things that elite football players can do athletically. The combination of power, speed, and agility they display, in my opinion, is far more impressive and rare than the endurance that, say, pro soccer players have. [/quote]
Your logic almost made sense, but then I realized you just have an overinflated sense of fast twitch is hands down, no questions, more impressive than slow twitch. Your comment also seems to imply that you can take any NFL athlete, and condition them into being a COMPETITIVE marathon runner.
On top of cardiovascular endurance you mention, thereâs also MUSCULAR endurance. Thatâs where the fasttwitch/slowtwitch stuff comes into play.
The key here is COMPETITIVE. I highly doubt that you can take someone like even Deion Sanders who was ridiculously naturally talented at what he did and make him a marathon runner that would be able to COMPETE against the elite.
People are NATURALLY gifted for certain sports - some have a higher percent of slow twitch, others have a higher percent of fast twitch. Most people that are average have average twitch [~50/50]. Sure, you can train your body to adapt more to another style, but there is a limit.
No way is Usain Bolt ever going to win a marathon against todayâs greatest marathoners. No way you are going to turn a great marathoner into a football player - even if they put on the mass through PEDs.
Personally, Iâm naturally stronger in terms of power/fast twitch over slow twitch - not by much, but I know that I can pick up sprinting WAY faster than it takes for me to pick up my cardiovascular/muscular endurance levels.
My main point - you seem to discount endurance because âanyone can do itâ - but not anyone can do it well and at the top level.
In conclusion, Iâd have to give it to the Rugby players. They pretty much seem to be football players + endurance.[/quote]
Of course not just anyone can run marathons at an elite level. Thatâs not what I was saying. I simply said it was my OPINION that what football players do is more impressive than what endurance athletes do. Thatâs all.
Rugby players are impressive of course, Iâm just not nearly as familiar with that sport as I am with American football, so I canât comment too much on it.
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]ziah wrote:
Also, to the guy who said that endurance doesnât really matter - really? Endurance is the ONLY area in which our species has the leg up on all other animals.
[/quote]
I seriously doubt this is true. How would you even prove it?[/quote]
Huh, funny I thought that was the case, but I guess not. There are a few animals out there than can out run humans for endurance:
Iâll admit it, my argument of humans being âtop-dogâ when it comes to endurance is invalid. [/quote]
just as an example here is someone that isnât even the best in his sport.
Dean Karnazes, an ultra marathoner, ran 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days and did the NYC marathon as his final in 3 hrs. started to run back to San Francisco but stopped in Missouri to spend more time with his family.
ran from Disneyland to New York in 75 days.
Ran 350 miles in 80 hours and 44 minutes without sleep.
148 miles in 24 hours on a treadmill.
swam across San Francisco Bay
completed The Relay, 200 mile race ran by teams of ten that each person runs 10 miles then is driven to their next stage, solo at least 11 times.
won(several top 5 finishes) the Badwater Ultra in under 28 hrs(not the record time). itâs 135 miles starting in Badwater Basin Death Vally @280â below sea level and climbs to @8400â on Mt Whitney in July.
Western States 100 where runners climb a total of 18,090 feet and descend a total of 22,970 feet through the Sierra Nevadas and have to finish in under 30 hrs. 11 time Silver Buckleholder(finish under 24 hrs)
won the 4 Deserts Grand Slam, 4 155 mi races, in 1 yr, through the Atacama Crossing(avg 8000â elev) in March, Gobi in June, Sahara in October, and Antarctica in November. each race take place over seven days and six stages. A campsite is raised each night for competitors where they are provided a tent to sleep, hot water, campfire, and medical assistance. they must carry all their own supplies with them during the race.
name a single animal that can do all these races.
[/quote]
Ultras⊠I think something should be mentioned about Ultras.
I crewed for a racer at Badwater as his medic. While all this talk looks impressive, it must be stated that these racers/runners arenât doing ultraâs without a team of folks behind them. Ultras are more like Nascar than a Forrest Gump style individual pursuit. There are communications, food, gear, a scale, medical, and (at least when I crewed) pacers to run with them to call out splits, etc that have to be assembled, pre-staged, coordinated, and 100% available throughout the duration. While a competitor is in a pretty elite and rare population to have âbuckledâ at Badwater and theyâre legit badasses, theyâre more successful the better their crew is.
So, an African Kudu (for example) isnât going to do all these races, of course. But it also doesnât have a friend every couple miles setting up a lawn chair and an umbrella and ice cold fluids and a snack waiting for him to roll in.
My 2 cents, from experience.
Ultra marathons? Please, whales swim hundreds of miles a day every day, get on their level!
Umm what about Military Special Forces like Rangers/SEALS/Green Berets/etc?
[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
Umm what about Military Special Forces like Rangers/SEALS/Green Berets/etc?
[/quote]
Nah, they were mentioned earlier. Most impressive well-rounded badasses, Yes. Athlete, probably not.