The Most Impressive, Well-Rounded Athletes?

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I don’t agree with the way some of you are arguing “your” sports. I can take any athlete (swimmer maybe) and say this John 2 Fucks can squat 500 lbs, dealift the moon, etc.
When we say most impressive, well rounded athletes, we need to ensure that there is no external training method.
These athletes can only do their sport. No gym, no cross training, etc. Otherwise obviously you can take monsters whose sole job is to train in everything (gym, etc) since they make millions for it.

Given that criteria, rugby and wrestling come out on top.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Myosin wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]RJK wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Adrian Peterson and Demarcus Ware hands down and throw in JPP from Giants.[/quote]

Calvin Johnson? Dude is 6’5" 240 and ran a 4.35 in someone else’s shoes at the combine, cuz fuck everyone, that’s why. Also has a 42.5" vert and 11’-7" standing broad jump.

If you are talking about best athlete, you have to look at the size and depth of the talent pool. Football has the largest in the country, and this country has the best athletes. Sorry everywhere else, that is a fact that gets proven again and again at every summer olympics.[/quote]

My only issue with football is it is not as much an endurance sport as basketball or boxing. Football is far more physical and strength based than basketball but I might argue boxing is the perfect combo of both.
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That is why they were stating the skill positions.

How many sprints do you think the WR/DB’s do in a game?

Now add in practice, Pre-Season, 16 game season and then maybe playoffs.

Have you played the sport?

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While I realize that football is challenging in many aspects, it does lack the endurance trait.

Average play is about 3.5 seconds, distance covered by most players is small, also account for players taking plays “off” while both on the field and standing on the sidelines due to constant subs. Football turns a 60 minute game into a 4 hour standing around and wait for another 3 seconds of action marathon. Also, number of actual games being played by the athlete is very small compared to other sports (injury/recovery factor yes, but still total number of games is small).

The most watched and least participated sport in America.[/quote]
Meh I disagree.

Are we comparing Sports?

No we are comparing individual body types with the ability to do a well rounded host of tasks. [/quote]

*Edit…this was mentioned before and I missed it.

Always an interesting discussion when most pulling for their favorites :slight_smile:

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[quote]Myosin wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Myosin wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]RJK wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Adrian Peterson and Demarcus Ware hands down and throw in JPP from Giants.[/quote]

Calvin Johnson? Dude is 6’5" 240 and ran a 4.35 in someone else’s shoes at the combine, cuz fuck everyone, that’s why. Also has a 42.5" vert and 11’-7" standing broad jump.

If you are talking about best athlete, you have to look at the size and depth of the talent pool. Football has the largest in the country, and this country has the best athletes. Sorry everywhere else, that is a fact that gets proven again and again at every summer olympics.[/quote]

My only issue with football is it is not as much an endurance sport as basketball or boxing. Football is far more physical and strength based than basketball but I might argue boxing is the perfect combo of both.
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That is why they were stating the skill positions.

How many sprints do you think the WR/DB’s do in a game?

Now add in practice, Pre-Season, 16 game season and then maybe playoffs.

Have you played the sport?

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While I realize that football is challenging in many aspects, it does lack the endurance trait.

Average play is about 3.5 seconds, distance covered by most players is small, also account for players taking plays “off” while both on the field and standing on the sidelines due to constant subs. Football turns a 60 minute game into a 4 hour standing around and wait for another 3 seconds of action marathon. Also, number of actual games being played by the athlete is very small compared to other sports (injury/recovery factor yes, but still total number of games is small).

The most watched and least participated sport in America.[/quote]
Meh I disagree.

Are we comparing Sports?

No we are comparing individual body types with the ability to do a well rounded host of tasks. [/quote]

*Edit…this was mentioned before and I missed it.

Always an interesting discussion when most pulling for their favorites :)[/quote]
Lol yes for sure.

Personally I think every sport has its great athletes, except Golf, baseball and any women’s sport. :slight_smile:

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[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
When we say most impressive, well rounded athletes, we need to ensure that there is no external training method.
These athletes can only do their sport. No gym, no cross training, etc.
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I totally disagree. The external training is a major part of it. The external training is a major reason they are in the NFL playing skill positions. That’s what it takes for them to get there. It’s part of it.

That’s one reason why I don’t hold basketball as high. Larry Bird is one of the greatest basketball players of all time. Larry Bird is not one of the most impressive, well-rounded athletes of all time.

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[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
When we say most impressive, well rounded athletes, we need to ensure that there is no external training method.
These athletes can only do their sport. No gym, no cross training, etc.
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I totally disagree. The external training is a major part of it. The external training is a major reason they are in the NFL playing skill positions. That’s what it takes for them to get there. It’s part of it.

That’s one reason why I don’t hold basketball as high. Larry Bird is one of the greatest basketball players of all time. Larry Bird is not one of the most impressive, well-rounded athletes of all time.

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NFL is not a sport, it’s a division worth millions and millions of dollars. American Football, in and of itself, does not require much. If wrestling was worth millions and millions, there would be no NFL combine, and someone would be saying the same for football as you are saying of basketball.

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[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
When we say most impressive, well rounded athletes, we need to ensure that there is no external training method.
These athletes can only do their sport. No gym, no cross training, etc.
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I totally disagree. The external training is a major part of it. The external training is a major reason they are in the NFL playing skill positions. That’s what it takes for them to get there. It’s part of it.

That’s one reason why I don’t hold basketball as high. Larry Bird is one of the greatest basketball players of all time. Larry Bird is not one of the most impressive, well-rounded athletes of all time.

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NFL is not a sport, it’s a division worth millions and millions of dollars. American Football, in and of itself, does not require much. If wrestling was worth millions and millions, there would be no NFL combine, and someone would be saying the same for football as you are saying of basketball.
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NFL is worth billions and billions of dollars.

The NFL is were the best American Football players go to play.

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Here is one of the greatest wrestlers ever. He is a great athlete. He is not in my opinion one of the most impressive, well rounded athletes of all time. And I don’t think wrestling produces very impressive, well rounded athletes.

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seen a football player run back a kickoff of 100 yards, then on the sidelines, hes given oxygen. huffin and puffin…seen that 10000000000 times over the years… now a soccer player does that many many times in a 90 minute game and i never seen those guys half dead looking taking oxygen…

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We do all agree that Michael Jordan is hands down the greatest athlete of the modern era, right?

With Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson right behind him.

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[quote]spk wrote:
seen a football player run back a kickoff of 100 yards, then on the sidelines, hes given oxygen. huffin and puffin…seen that 10000000000 times over the years… now a soccer player does that many many times in a 90 minute game and i never seen those guys half dead looking taking oxygen…[/quote]

A soccer player does not have to worry about his head being taken off by 250 lb. linebackers…

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[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
When we say most impressive, well rounded athletes, we need to ensure that there is no external training method.
These athletes can only do their sport. No gym, no cross training, etc.
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I totally disagree. The external training is a major part of it. The external training is a major reason they are in the NFL playing skill positions. That’s what it takes for them to get there. It’s part of it.

That’s one reason why I don’t hold basketball as high. Larry Bird is one of the greatest basketball players of all time. Larry Bird is not one of the most impressive, well-rounded athletes of all time.

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NFL is not a sport, it’s a division worth millions and millions of dollars. American Football, in and of itself, does not require much. If wrestling was worth millions and millions, there would be no NFL combine, and someone would be saying the same for football as you are saying of basketball.
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NFL is worth billions and billions of dollars.

The NFL is were the best American Football players go to play.
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Yes, but the sport itself does not produce impressive athletes.

I guess I’m looking at it differently. I’m thinking of the sport itself producing an athlete, and you’re simply biased about AF since that’s where all the great athletes go cause of money.

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brett, not having to worry about getting your head ripped off by 250 # guys has nothing to do with the players condition… dude may look impressive with his shirt off ans with a bunch of muscles, but needing oxygen after 100 yards isnt too fit in my book.soccer players do this all game as do basketball players and sprinters training as do rugby players…i seen this countless times. oxygen for the stud that just ran 100 yards…

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[quote]spk wrote:
seen a football player run back a kickoff of 100 yards, then on the sidelines, hes given oxygen. huffin and puffin…seen that 10000000000 times over the years… now a soccer player does that many many times in a 90 minute game and i never seen those guys half dead looking taking oxygen…[/quote]
Yeah man; soccer players suck though. I’ve seen ultramarathoners run 100 miles at a time. Soccer players would never last that long. Because endurance is the ultimate test of athleticism right? Right???

I mean I’ve seen strongmen pull a 150,000lb plane down a course and go for oxygen tanks afterwards. LOL! Fucking pussies.

Emaciated 120lb dudes with no muscle who can jump around and move about all day long are the best athletes.

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[quote]spk wrote:
seen a football player run back a kickoff of 100 yards, then on the sidelines, hes given oxygen. huffin and puffin…seen that 10000000000 times over the years… now a soccer player does that many many times in a 90 minute game and i never seen those guys half dead looking taking oxygen…[/quote]

You have never seen a skilled position player do that. A lineman yes, but never a skilled position player.

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[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
When we say most impressive, well rounded athletes, we need to ensure that there is no external training method.
These athletes can only do their sport. No gym, no cross training, etc.
[/quote]

I totally disagree. The external training is a major part of it. The external training is a major reason they are in the NFL playing skill positions. That’s what it takes for them to get there. It’s part of it.

That’s one reason why I don’t hold basketball as high. Larry Bird is one of the greatest basketball players of all time. Larry Bird is not one of the most impressive, well-rounded athletes of all time.

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NFL is not a sport, it’s a division worth millions and millions of dollars. American Football, in and of itself, does not require much. If wrestling was worth millions and millions, there would be no NFL combine, and someone would be saying the same for football as you are saying of basketball.
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NFL is worth billions and billions of dollars.

The NFL is were the best American Football players go to play.
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Yes, but the sport itself does not produce impressive athletes.

I guess I’m looking at it differently. I’m thinking of the sport itself producing an athlete, and you’re simply biased about AF since that’s where all the great athletes go cause of money.[/quote]

Yes, you are looking at it differently than I am. The whole package counts as to what makes them the best. The offseason is part of the big picture. What they do to compete at that level is part of it. That is why I place them at the top of this list. What they do to compete at that level is what makes them the best.

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[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]spk wrote:
seen a football player run back a kickoff of 100 yards, then on the sidelines, hes given oxygen. huffin and puffin…seen that 10000000000 times over the years… now a soccer player does that many many times in a 90 minute game and i never seen those guys half dead looking taking oxygen…[/quote]

You have never seen a skilled position player do that. A lineman yes, but never a skilled position player.
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Even if they do, who gives a fuck? Do you have any idea what 100% oxygen does to your body?

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[quote]Brett620 wrote:
We do all agree that Michael Jordan is hands down the greatest athlete of the modern era, right?

With Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson right behind him. [/quote]

No. I can’t say he isn’t the greatest modern day athlete, but I can’t personally give him the crown either. Not without looking at Bo Jackson.

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[quote]spk wrote:
brett, not having to worry about getting your head ripped off by 250 # guys has nothing to do with the players condition… dude may look impressive with his shirt off ans with a bunch of muscles, but needing oxygen after 100 yards isnt too fit in my book.soccer players do this all game as do basketball players and sprinters training as do rugby players…i seen this countless times. oxygen for the stud that just ran 100 yards…[/quote]

That fear factor takes a lot of you. Ever boxed or done MMA? You will be amazed at how tired you get from the tension/adrenaline. Until you really learn to relax, it add a whole extra layer of conditioning other than just running. The mental altertness avoiding the big hit is a factor.

I know what it looks like, but it’s different once you are out there. In full pads.

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[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]Brett620 wrote:
We do all agree that Michael Jordan is hands down the greatest athlete of the modern era, right?

With Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson right behind him. [/quote]

No. I can’t say he isn’t the greatest modern day athlete, but I can’t personally give him the crown either. Not without looking at Bo Jackson. [/quote]

C’mon man. I’m with ya on Bo. But Jordan? No way to ever “prove” it, but I can’t say I saw better.