Mike, Thanks for the feedback. I have had some trouble with tight hip flexors. That’s why I was receiving ART before. I have been stretching them a lot as well as the rest of my hip muscles.
I will follow up with Dr. Ryan about the Graston stuff. My leg feels like it was “wrapped up” and now it is “unwrapped”. Plus, my right leg (the one that received the trmt) is noticable bigger than the left (maybe just swelling). I go for physical therapy again tomorrow. I am going to insist that they do the left leg too. I am really worried about imbalances. I have tendonitis in both knees, but the tear is on the right.
I currently train at the Jewish Community Center on 79th and Hoover Road. It is not bad at all. No one uses the squat rack so it is easy for me to do most of my stuff. It is kind of tuff to do any olympic lifts though. My son goes to daycare there so it is really convenient for me.
Tell me more about your plans here in Indy…I am very interested.
Absolutely NO clicking until the last week or two before the meet; that’s why I was freaking out!
If you check out Dr. Ryan’s thread, I know he discusses how sometimes it’s just gas moving in the joint, or sometimes how muscles and ligaments are moving that produce the sound. If there’s no pain associated with it, I wouldn’t be too worried.
It’s hard for me to tell you if it’s a strength/flexibility imbalance w/o being able to assess you. However, if you try a bunch of stretches and single leg exercises, you can generally figure it out yourself; half the battle is learning to “feel” what your body is telling you.
Thanks for the kind words on the rehab! Things are going well, and I squatted a massive 95 pounds without any lateral shifting yesterday. It’s coming back…
Stay strong
MR
[quote]WiZlon wrote:
May I ask: does (or did) your knee “click” all the time? My right knee clicks occasionally, usually after it’s been in another position and I straighten or twist it to the left. I have no pain, but I don’t like the sound. Also, the same knee has a weird sound (sorta like a dull tearing sound?) when I squat (with just body weight).
I’m doing more flexibility stuff and I think it’s helping (i.e. not clicking as much), but it’s hard to know. I do believe that some days the clicking frequency is worse than others, and my legs as a whole feel stiffer at that time - so I wonder if it’s an imbalance of muscle strength / tension?
I know we all look forward to learning of your reasearch on this, coz it’s a major fear of most folks! Good luck with your research and recovery.
Fill me in on what Doc says about Graston; is there someone in Indy who does it? If you’d like I could probably assess you sometime when I get down there. If you are interested, shoot me a PM.
As far as the job goes, I’m going to do in-home/in-school sport performance training. I’m really stoked because the guy I’m working with already has some pretty solid athletes lined up, and I’ll be the first person to work with them. I love working with kids who are “blank slates!” Much easier than correcting a kid who’s trained improperly for several years…
Shoot me a PM if you’d like to chat more about Indy!
Stay strong
MR
[quote]bjaffe wrote:
Mike, Thanks for the feedback. I have had some trouble with tight hip flexors. That’s why I was receiving ART before. I have been stretching them a lot as well as the rest of my hip muscles.
I will follow up with Dr. Ryan about the Graston stuff. My leg feels like it was “wrapped up” and now it is “unwrapped”. Plus, my right leg (the one that received the trmt) is noticable bigger than the left (maybe just swelling). I go for physical therapy again tomorrow. I am going to insist that they do the left leg too. I am really worried about imbalances. I have tendonitis in both knees, but the tear is on the right.
I currently train at the Jewish Community Center on 79th and Hoover Road. It is not bad at all. No one uses the squat rack so it is easy for me to do most of my stuff. It is kind of tuff to do any olympic lifts though. My son goes to daycare there so it is really convenient for me.
Tell me more about your plans here in Indy…I am very interested.[/quote]
Per out last discussion, I decided to continue to overhead squat deep (ass to grass) but I’m doing these things also to see if it helps:
-high rep bodyweight squats (just start w/1 set of 25 reps every day) as recommended to me by Keith Wassung-I think to promote blood flow, etc.
-I always do but stretch stretch stretch
-Hold the bottom positon of an ass to grass bodyweight squat for 30 seconds (part of my stretching/rom stuff)
-good mornings (in the hopes of strengthening my entire posterior chain and also help increase my deadlift/cleans/snatches)
-machine bilateral leg curls (I was hoping for unilateral but the YMCA I go to doesn’t have single leg) I know, I know everybody hates the leg curl machine but I figured I could possibly strengthen my knee flexion and hip flexion
-sometimes I do 1-2 reps of the King deadlift (single leg bodyweight deadlift from Ian King)not high reps though just 1 or 2 for rom
Rehab is going well; I think I talked a little bit about it above.
The program looks pretty good; I think, as they say, the proof will be “in the pudding.” Keep us posted on how things are going!
Stay strong
MR
[quote]BPC wrote:
Mike,
How’s your rehab going?
Per out last discussion, I decided to continue to overhead squat deep (ass to grass) but I’m doing these things also to see if it helps:
-high rep bodyweight squats (just start w/1 set of 25 reps every day) as recommended to me by Keith Wassung-I think to promote blood flow, etc.
-I always do but stretch stretch stretch
-Hold the bottom positon of an ass to grass bodyweight squat for 30 seconds (part of my stretching/rom stuff)
-good mornings (in the hopes of strengthening my entire posterior chain and also help increase my deadlift/cleans/snatches)
-machine bilateral leg curls (I was hoping for unilateral but the YMCA I go to doesn’t have single leg) I know, I know everybody hates the leg curl machine but I figured I could possibly strengthen my knee flexion and hip flexion
-sometimes I do 1-2 reps of the King deadlift (single leg bodyweight deadlift from Ian King)not high reps though just 1 or 2 for rom
Hi Mike - in regards to my previous post concerning a crackling noise in my knee on the eccentric portion of lifts and a feeling of motion being “caught up” on something, we’ve determined that the difference in pelvic height is not a structural issue in the length of the right leg.
Any advice?
Congrats on your new job, by the way. Sounds like a great gig.
While I certainly would not expect a long distance diagnosis, I thought I’d throw my issue out here for some input…
I’m 26, I’ve been lifting for quite a few years now, both heavy and light. I used to do a lot of heavy squatting and deads, as well as knee extensions. I quit going hard on my legs a few years back, but over the last few months, I have developed some loud popping in my left leg. The area becomes slightly inflamed after work out, but ‘pain’ has not really set in quite yet. Soreness, only, around the same area from which the sound is emitted: right behind the knee cap. So the question is: has anybody else experienced this phenomenon, and are there any do it yourself remedies I might try before returning to the doctor…
medial meniscus repair and microfracture, i cant run (6 weeks post op) but can walk normally and cant lift weights, i can technically jog short distances but it hurts after. Doc says stick to swimming and biking and i may never job, which is BS im very pissed about that i dont know how he can say that i could run fine beforee, also i am a scholarship fball player so wtf… he tells me microfractures are a 12 week recovery time as well and even after that i still wont run.
If you have a functional (muscle-based) leg length discrepancy, check out EC and I’s Neanderthal No More series to check out how to address all the muscle imbalances. It can get tricky, but if it makes your knees feel better, it’ll be worth it!
Stay strong
MR
[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
Hi Mike - in regards to my previous post concerning a crackling noise in my knee on the eccentric portion of lifts and a feeling of motion being “caught up” on something, we’ve determined that the difference in pelvic height is not a structural issue in the length of the right leg.
Any advice?
Congrats on your new job, by the way. Sounds like a great gig.
“Popping” generally means either crepitus, chondromalacia patella, meniscal issues or arthritis. What movements irritate the tissue? Where is the “popping” coming from?
Give me some more info and I’ll try to help!
Stay strong
MR
[quote]apfinley wrote:
While I certainly would not expect a long distance diagnosis, I thought I’d throw my issue out here for some input…
I’m 26, I’ve been lifting for quite a few years now, both heavy and light. I used to do a lot of heavy squatting and deads, as well as knee extensions. I quit going hard on my legs a few years back, but over the last few months, I have developed some loud popping in my left leg. The area becomes slightly inflamed after work out, but ‘pain’ has not really set in quite yet. Soreness, only, around the same area from which the sound is emitted: right behind the knee cap. So the question is: has anybody else experienced this phenomenon, and are there any do it yourself remedies I might try before returning to the doctor…[/quote]
I must admit, I’m not really familiar with micro-fracture surgery, although the rehab after a meniscal repair is pretty lengthy and preceded by an extended period of immobilization.
Good luck with your rehab and keep us posted on your progress!
Stay strong
MR
[quote]Split wrote:
medial meniscus repair and microfracture, i cant run (6 weeks post op) but can walk normally and cant lift weights, i can technically jog short distances but it hurts after. Doc says stick to swimming and biking and i may never job, which is BS im very pissed about that i dont know how he can say that i could run fine beforee, also i am a scholarship fball player so wtf… he tells me microfractures are a 12 week recovery time as well and even after that i still wont run.[/quote]
If you have a functional (muscle-based) leg length discrepancy, check out EC and I’s Neanderthal No More series to check out how to address all the muscle imbalances. It can get tricky, but if it makes your knees feel better, it’ll be worth it!
Stay strong
MR
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Heh, that’s what I’ve been using to be able to squat lately. Just wish the flexibility improvements would be more permanent than an hour.
Hopefully the orthotics will clear it up, I’ll let you know.
Hi Mike, maybe you could help me out here. This past weekend I seriously hurt my knee for the 3rd time since this spring. It almost feels like I “spraigned” my knee. Anyway each time it happens my knee swells up, ROM becomes obsolete, and it hurts like hell on the outside of my knee for a few days.
Each time that I have hurt it has come from some form of squatting (front, overheard, and back squat one time each) into a low position (calfs to ass prety much). I think the first time I did came from trying to improve my ROM on front squat, in which my form was somewhat bow legged. Same thing happened in overhead squat. I was trying it out and going down real deep and I think my legs were a little bow legged.
Finally I stopped front and overhead squats, and just did Bulgarian spilt squat and full back squats. Although the pain was still in the background it was not an issue while doing these as my knee did not “flex” out to the side during these; however last friday it happeened while doing back squats too.
Anyway I had a knee X-ray, which didnt’t really show much except that there isn’t much space between my patella (I have/had patallofemoral, but it hasn’t bothered me for a couple years, and this certaintly isn’t a flare up of that). I’ve also seen a doctor who said that “I probably tore some fibers”, and a PT who didn’t have a clue what was wrong with it, and told me to wait for 6 weeks and come back if I still had the problem.
Attached here is a front shot. Notice the swelling, and that my right quad is much smaller than the left (has been for long time, prob from using left leg to jump off of playing ball. Oh yeah my patellas move and slide around quite easily too (if that matters).
That’s all of the pertinent info I can think of right now - I will post a couple more pics.
ok so I had one post explaining the blue marker on my knee with another pic, but it was too big to go threw…anyway the blue marker outlines the area in which it hurts. Gradually as my knee gets somewhat better each time the pain is reduced to only palpation on that blue circle/dot in the pic of my knee above OR when I apply inward pressure to the outside of my knee. so far pain at this dot has never gone away like the rest of my knee the previous two times. Since it only hurt to palpate or put a lot of inward presure I thought it would be ok to squat since this didnt’ seemt o major to me…i guess I was wrong…enough rambling though, I need some help with what to do and what the problem is.
I was scoped once and they cut out the plica from my right knee. My knee still clicks on the medial side when I squat low enough. Im worried that it might be a medial meniscal tear. But it was scoped. The doctor said it was in good shape. The problem is, right now im not covered under insurance - i was before. So i cant get an MRI scan to see if thats the case. What should i do?
Just wish the flexibility improvements would be more permanent than an hour.
