hold on you said peyton top QB this year? your fucking hilarious dude, hahahahahha
[quote]evilachilles9 wrote:
oh and btw peyton is #1 with half his team on IR, jacob tamme, yeah hes a hall of fame type player isnt he???[/quote]
Manning: 11 picks in a 3 game stretch with 4 pick 6s, are you f’n nuts?
wow tamme? who the fuck is Gronkowski? deion branch was doing what in Seattle?
Brandon Tate ?
What was Wes Welker before he met Brady?
Brady won 3 super bowls with whom at WR? David Patten? Givens? Branch?
Peyton had 2 HOFers for the decade, Wayne and Harrison
goodnight you lost clown boy
Hahahahaahah Peyton is having a terrible year, compared to his standards. Brady is by far playing the best ball out of any QB. And to get back on subject, the Jets are a complete JOKE. I have no idea why sports writers were talking these bitches up so much. They only have 1 win against a team with a winning record. Their record is so bloated its not even funny. BOOM
[quote]graudani wrote:
Hahahahaahah Peyton is having a terrible year, compared to his standards. Brady is by far playing the best ball out of any QB. And to get back on subject, the Jets are a complete JOKE. I have no idea why sports writers were talking these bitches up so much. They only have 1 win against a team with a winning record. Their record is so bloated its not even funny. BOOM[/quote]
To put Manning having a terrible year in perspective:
Plenty of 300 yard games, a couple picks that were his fault and some that weren’t with a dinged up receiving corp.
26td, 15 int, 4,028 yards and 91.2 rating to date…not too shabby.
jets are decent, not great, peyton is #1 i checked yahoo, espn, and nfl.com to compare passers, you guys are fucking stupid omg, wes welker was there work horse of the dolphins and hes averaging over 60 yds/gm which is huge and over 20 YAC you are dumb douche please come to madison, WI… you cant judge peyton for 3 games when hes played 14 games you DUMB FUCKING DOUCHBAGS hes leading across the boar in all things averaged together, please go suck off tom brady and die of his gonasiphaherpaids… i would bet my sould and eternal suffering that tom brady isnt even top 5 for the last 12 years you cock sucker
[quote]evilachilles9 wrote:
jets are decent, not great, peyton is #1 i checked yahoo, espn, and nfl.com to compare passers, you guys are fucking stupid omg, wes welker was there work horse of the dolphins and hes averaging over 60 yds/gm which is huge and over 20 YAC you are dumb douche please come to madison, WI… you cant judge peyton for 3 games when hes played 14 games you DUMB FUCKING DOUCHBAGS hes leading across the boar in all things averaged together, please go suck off tom brady and die of his gonasiphaherpaids… i would bet my sould and eternal suffering that tom brady isnt even top 5 for the last 12 years you cock sucker
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You know what’s funny. Over their careers Manning and Brady have exactly the same ratings. 94.9 if I’m not mistaken.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I also disagree that he has a weak arm. I don’t see that at all. If anythin thats one of his strong suits. [/quote]
Sorry fellas, but you’re both wrong. See, one MUST have access to coaching tape to make accurate judgments since TV coverage is woefully limited and insufficient for you, me or anyone.
Not like any of us has the time/inclination to do all that, so its just easier to just dig up coaching tape analysis from guys like Greg Cosell. And here’s a sample of what they say:
JETS OFFENSE V. PATRIOTS DEFENSE
- Sanchez missed an opportunity to throw to Cotchery down the seam versus Butler on the first series; Protection was excellent, It was “man free”, Cotchery had a step - It’s a confident type of throw but you have to pull the trigger
- Sanchez was not comfortable right from the start, He was not getting a clear picture of the defense
- Sanchez looked at times as if he was pushing the ball, not fluidly releasing it; His arm strength issues showed up in this game, The ball did not come out with much juice
- Spikes red zone interception was a poorly designed play, The Jets clearly anticipated that the run action would eat up Spikes and he would not be factor in the throw - Spikes was not in Sanchez vision and was not part of Sanchez reading equation
- McCourty interception was not a bad decision by Sanchez, Edwards was one-on-one with McCourty and had a step but Sanchez underthrew the ball - It would have required a very good throw, but the ball died in the air
- Sanchez was overmatched in this game, both mentally and physically
JETS OFFENSE V. BENGALS DEFENSE
- Sanchez big time throw to Edwards 15 yds on deep comeback from far hash, Great anticipation and accuracy to compensate for his lack of arm strength
- Very next play after Edwards completion Sanchez did not pull the trigger on a designed big play, He had Holmes wide open on the deep cross off play action but he obviously didn’t get a clear picture and checked it down for an incompletion
- Sanchez better at moving out of the pocket than moving comfortably within the pocket; Must improve his pocket mobility, Missed some opportunities
- Overall Sanchez a poor game in terms of seeing things and reading things, He took a step back after a very good game against the Texans the week before
- When you watch every snap of Sanchez and every snap of Bradford the distinction between the two is clear: Bradford is a better QB, More poised and composed in the pocket, Better pocket command, More consistently accurate
JETS OFFENSE V. PACKERS DEFENSE
- Sanchez an early-in-the-down QB, A plant-and-throw passer - He’s not a progression reader at this point
- Sanchez a between-the-numbers passer, Throws dig routes well
- First play of the Jets second possession of the 3rd quarter was a dig-and-go to Edwards, Edwards beat Woodson but FB Richardson did not execute his block on Zombo and Sanchez did not have a clean pocket - A big play opportunity missed due to a pass protection breakdown
- Sanchez still not a comfortable QB when he can’t deliver the ball on time
- Sanchez issues with ball location, Even some of his completions were not accurate throws
- Woodson interception similar to one of Sanchez interceptions versus the Broncos, A pre-determined throw without validating the coverage on his drop
- Sanchez issues with ball location, Even some of his completions were not accurate throws
JETS OFFENSE V. BRONCOS DEFENSE
- Hunter interception came out of 6 DL front, Sanchez movement in response to inside pressure from DT Williams versus C Mangold; Sanchez loses clarity when he moves
- Sanchez a little frenetic and rushed in the pocket when he can’t plant and throw on time; When the design of the play works and the primary receiver is open, Sanchez is very efficient
- Sanchez predominantly a one read QB at this point
- Sanchez reverted to his tendency to play fast, especially in response to blitz
(reposted from previous page because I’d hate to see such an inflammatory post get buried)
[quote]chillain wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I also disagree that he has a weak arm. I don’t see that at all. If anythin thats one of his strong suits. [/quote]
Sorry fellas, but you’re both wrong. See, one MUST have access to coaching tape to make accurate judgments since TV coverage is woefully limited and insufficient for you, me or anyone.
Not like any of us has the time/inclination to do all that, so its just easier to just dig up coaching tape analysis from guys like Greg Cosell. And here’s a sample of what they say:
JETS OFFENSE V. PATRIOTS DEFENSE
- Sanchez missed an opportunity to throw to Cotchery down the seam versus Butler on the first series; Protection was excellent, It was “man free”, Cotchery had a step - It’s a confident type of throw but you have to pull the trigger
- Sanchez was not comfortable right from the start, He was not getting a clear picture of the defense
- Sanchez looked at times as if he was pushing the ball, not fluidly releasing it; His arm strength issues showed up in this game, The ball did not come out with much juice
- Spikes red zone interception was a poorly designed play, The Jets clearly anticipated that the run action would eat up Spikes and he would not be factor in the throw - Spikes was not in Sanchez vision and was not part of Sanchez reading equation
- McCourty interception was not a bad decision by Sanchez, Edwards was one-on-one with McCourty and had a step but Sanchez underthrew the ball - It would have required a very good throw, but the ball died in the air
- Sanchez was overmatched in this game, both mentally and physically
JETS OFFENSE V. BENGALS DEFENSE
- Sanchez big time throw to Edwards 15 yds on deep comeback from far hash, Great anticipation and accuracy to compensate for his lack of arm strength
- Very next play after Edwards completion Sanchez did not pull the trigger on a designed big play, He had Holmes wide open on the deep cross off play action but he obviously didn’t get a clear picture and checked it down for an incompletion
- Sanchez better at moving out of the pocket than moving comfortably within the pocket; Must improve his pocket mobility, Missed some opportunities
- Overall Sanchez a poor game in terms of seeing things and reading things, He took a step back after a very good game against the Texans the week before
- When you watch every snap of Sanchez and every snap of Bradford the distinction between the two is clear: Bradford is a better QB, More poised and composed in the pocket, Better pocket command, More consistently accurate
JETS OFFENSE V. PACKERS DEFENSE
- Sanchez an early-in-the-down QB, A plant-and-throw passer - He’s not a progression reader at this point
- Sanchez a between-the-numbers passer, Throws dig routes well
- First play of the Jets second possession of the 3rd quarter was a dig-and-go to Edwards, Edwards beat Woodson but FB Richardson did not execute his block on Zombo and Sanchez did not have a clean pocket - A big play opportunity missed due to a pass protection breakdown
- Sanchez still not a comfortable QB when he can’t deliver the ball on time
- Sanchez issues with ball location, Even some of his completions were not accurate throws
- Woodson interception similar to one of Sanchez interceptions versus the Broncos, A pre-determined throw without validating the coverage on his drop
- Sanchez issues with ball location, Even some of his completions were not accurate throws
JETS OFFENSE V. BRONCOS DEFENSE
- Hunter interception came out of 6 DL front, Sanchez movement in response to inside pressure from DT Williams versus C Mangold; Sanchez loses clarity when he moves
- Sanchez a little frenetic and rushed in the pocket when he can’t plant and throw on time; When the design of the play works and the primary receiver is open, Sanchez is very efficient
- Sanchez predominantly a one read QB at this point
- Sanchez reverted to his tendency to play fast, especially in response to blitz
(reposted from previous page because I’d hate to see such an inflammatory post get buried)
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Good looking though!
dude you seriously dont think welker was anything before he went to the pats? r u serious? im a dolphins fan and i can admit when a qb is good or nbot since we bhavent had a good one since marino, second welker fucking killed it for us with no QB, his YAC is one of the best in the nfl of the last 5 years, u seriously think brady is so good???
yes i do hate him and he is a division rival, but bledsoe got the pats to 2 SB and then went to “americas team” and did jac shit, so for u to think that becaue of brady the pats are good is a fucking joke, with half the talent brady couldnt get 10 wins, welker carries that team on his shoulders, and like i said, 3 players that average 40 + yds/g thats insane with welker geting 60+ yds/g.
do your research before you make false claims because of your un dying gay love for tome brady. he id an embarassment to any real QB. like ive said 3 time s now i believe, i could put a dozen QB’s in NE and they would do as good, but prolly way better than that bitch will ever do.
please stop drinking and see the reality of life, the pats are really good all the way around, they could have cambell and still have 9 wins this season, im not arguing that the pats are bad they have an amazing system and will be remembered for this decade of dominance, im just saying tom brady is the most overrated whiney peice of shit ive ever seen in my life
eli b you seem sane enough, manning had 3 horrible games, yes, but he went for 320 yds and 0 pics last week, yet he leads the league in yds (not sure 100% havent checked in a week) but u say brady is better??? seriously manning has had half his team to throw to this year, and still is in top contention.
the only reason brady is in mvp contention is b/c his team is doing good and the QB is seen as the leader, same BS as a heisman, do u think the teams in college wouldve been horrible without their reggie bush, tebows, or vince youngs???
btw brady was a back up bitch if i didnt tell u yet, im a miami fan as mentioned so i kno brady is better than anything weve had in years but still isnt saying shit, thats like bears fans saying theyre better than lions… who cares they both suck, brady sucks, end of question…
oh and yeah brady get giselle, she is smoking, but if u made 20+ million a year youd have a smoking hotie too for sure, as would I, still doesnt mean hes a good quarterback… do you think hefner gets laid because of his rugged, 70YO, good looks?>???
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]chillain wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I also disagree that he has a weak arm. I don’t see that at all. If anythin thats one of his strong suits. [/quote]
Sorry fellas, but you’re both wrong. See, one MUST have access to coaching tape to make accurate judgments since TV coverage is woefully limited and insufficient for you, me or anyone.
Not like any of us has the time/inclination to do all that, so its just easier to just dig up coaching tape analysis from guys like Greg Cosell. And here’s a sample of what they say:
JETS OFFENSE V. PATRIOTS DEFENSE
- Sanchez missed an opportunity to throw to Cotchery down the seam versus Butler on the first series; Protection was excellent, It was “man free”, Cotchery had a step - It’s a confident type of throw but you have to pull the trigger
- Sanchez was not comfortable right from the start, He was not getting a clear picture of the defense
- Sanchez looked at times as if he was pushing the ball, not fluidly releasing it; His arm strength issues showed up in this game, The ball did not come out with much juice
- Spikes red zone interception was a poorly designed play, The Jets clearly anticipated that the run action would eat up Spikes and he would not be factor in the throw - Spikes was not in Sanchez vision and was not part of Sanchez reading equation
- McCourty interception was not a bad decision by Sanchez, Edwards was one-on-one with McCourty and had a step but Sanchez underthrew the ball - It would have required a very good throw, but the ball died in the air
- Sanchez was overmatched in this game, both mentally and physically
JETS OFFENSE V. BENGALS DEFENSE
- Sanchez big time throw to Edwards 15 yds on deep comeback from far hash, Great anticipation and accuracy to compensate for his lack of arm strength
- Very next play after Edwards completion Sanchez did not pull the trigger on a designed big play, He had Holmes wide open on the deep cross off play action but he obviously didn’t get a clear picture and checked it down for an incompletion
- Sanchez better at moving out of the pocket than moving comfortably within the pocket; Must improve his pocket mobility, Missed some opportunities
- Overall Sanchez a poor game in terms of seeing things and reading things, He took a step back after a very good game against the Texans the week before
- When you watch every snap of Sanchez and every snap of Bradford the distinction between the two is clear: Bradford is a better QB, More poised and composed in the pocket, Better pocket command, More consistently accurate
JETS OFFENSE V. PACKERS DEFENSE
- Sanchez an early-in-the-down QB, A plant-and-throw passer - He’s not a progression reader at this point
- Sanchez a between-the-numbers passer, Throws dig routes well
- First play of the Jets second possession of the 3rd quarter was a dig-and-go to Edwards, Edwards beat Woodson but FB Richardson did not execute his block on Zombo and Sanchez did not have a clean pocket - A big play opportunity missed due to a pass protection breakdown
- Sanchez still not a comfortable QB when he can’t deliver the ball on time
- Sanchez issues with ball location, Even some of his completions were not accurate throws
- Woodson interception similar to one of Sanchez interceptions versus the Broncos, A pre-determined throw without validating the coverage on his drop
- Sanchez issues with ball location, Even some of his completions were not accurate throws
JETS OFFENSE V. BRONCOS DEFENSE
- Hunter interception came out of 6 DL front, Sanchez movement in response to inside pressure from DT Williams versus C Mangold; Sanchez loses clarity when he moves
- Sanchez a little frenetic and rushed in the pocket when he can’t plant and throw on time; When the design of the play works and the primary receiver is open, Sanchez is very efficient
- Sanchez predominantly a one read QB at this point
- Sanchez reverted to his tendency to play fast, especially in response to blitz
(reposted from previous page because I’d hate to see such an inflammatory post get buried)
[/quote]
Good looking though![/quote]
Frankly I dont care if you and Greg Cosell held a seance and summoned the spirits of Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry and looked at game tape of sanchez. To say that Sanchez has a below average arm is just wrong. Does he have an arm like Jeff George? No, he has an above average arm.
Greg Cossel is another jerkoff from Queens just like me. He has a informed opinion no doubt, and is anti sanchez like so many other people…the only way my opinion of sanchez will be swayed is if he prolongs his inconsistent play. Im not going to label him as a shitty QB after not even 2 years in the league, time will tell, not Greg Cosell
[quote]evilachilles9 wrote:
top 3 qbs so far this year
1)peyton
2)rivers
3)brees
those wrs??? you mean three receivers averaging 40+ yds/gm not to mention their running game as well as having some of the best blocking, special teams, and a consistant defense??? give me a break brady has the most cake job in the nfl, u seriously think no one else could do better?
you forget bledsoe was getting them to super bowls while brady was a back up in michigan, they have a good system and franchise, nothing at all to do with brady, if it were possible to prove i would bet the wealth of the world against brady, had he got drafter by tampa or detroit or seattle hed be in the CFL long ago
[/quote]
Unbelievable sports hate against Brady. Yes, his job is just cake. He’s only having arguably the best season of his career and is practically a lock-in for his second MVP. Yeah, he doesn’t even crack top three QBs this year. Sure…
I didnt read that…thats just stupid…honestly with brady at QB, I could play receiver and catch 40 passes with 5 tds, and in 3 yrs of playing HS football I caught 3 passes…in three years
i apologize for steering this jets forum toward a brady argument, im easily irritated while intoxicated, i still hate brady but to get back on track
fish 10- Jets 6 woot woot, too bad you guys didnt have brady then you woulda smoked us
[quote]biglifter wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
The Jets are good… but they aren’t going to win the Superbowl that’s for sure. Too many flaws, Sanchez is gay.
The Patriots are better… in fact they are the best team in the NFL if their defense can get shit straight.
The Giants… well they are just gay. They got that Hakeem whoever player who is just gay, and then don’t get me started on Eli Manning and how he looks with his stupid retard helmet. Plus he’s gay.[/quote]
This just may be the best post ever written in the history of history.[/quote]
I agree, this post was just awesome.
oh and anyone else think it was kinda harsh that the jets strength coach is getting suspended without pay for the rest of the year AND fined 25k… thats a big price for a guy that might make 100k if that, granted hes a worthless human being and should be banned from working in the NFL ever again 25k seems harsh, thats like getting a 10k speeding ticket
[quote]BADASS MENTALITY wrote:
[quote]biglifter wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
The Jets are good… but they aren’t going to win the Superbowl that’s for sure. Too many flaws, Sanchez is gay.
The Patriots are better… in fact they are ARGUABLY the best team in the NFL RIGHT NOW< BUT TOO AD THEYRE GAY.
The Giants… well they are just gay. They got that Hakeem whoever player who is just gay, and then don’t get me started on Eli Manning and how he looks with his stupid retard helmet. Plus he’s gay.[/quote]
This just may be the best post ever written in the history of history.[/quote]
I agree, this post was just awesome. [/quote]
^x3 had to do a minor edit though
chillain,
too much text bro. I think you should start your own show on ESPN, though.
This is for you evilachilles9:
Q: You played with many teams, including the Patriots. I am a huge Pats fan and was wondering what you think of the assessment that for all Tom Brady’s success he is simply a “game manager.” That is all he does and that is all anyone I hear say. Is that true? Do you think that it detracts from his Hall candidacy?
Mathew in Champaign, Ill.
A: I think it’s laughable, and I can guarantee you’ll never hear that from anyone who actually played or coached in New England with Brady. They know better. He is by far the best QB I ever played with, and in fact I truly believe that if he wins a fourth Super Bowl ring with this year’s team, a strong argument could be made that he is the greatest quarterback of all time.
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Greg Cossel is another jerkoff from Queens just like me. He has a informed opinion no doubt, and is anti sanchez like so many other people…the only way my opinion of sanchez will be swayed is if he prolongs his inconsistent play. Im not going to label him as a shitty QB after not even 2 years in the league, time will tell, not Greg Cosell[/quote]
Heh I knew you’d hold it down, Matty. But Cosell sounds pretty objective and not anti-Sanchez. I mean, he observes plenty of other QBs shortcomings as well:
JETS OFFENSE V. DOLPHINS DEFENSE
- Sanchez first throw of the game was right to Dolphins corner Smith, He dropped what would have been an interception return TD
- Sanchez interception in the 1st quarter came on a far hash/deep comeback throw; That’s a difficult throw for Sanchez, He doesnâ??t have that kind of arm strength
- Sanchez sack and fumble was a great blitz concept by the Dolphins, 5 man rush out of dime personnel with DB Sapp getting clean - Sapp was Tomlinson’s responsibility and Tomlinson did not recognize it quickly enough
- Dolphins very effective use of the “Bear” front with 2 “3 techniques” to defend the Jets run game, Jets had problems blocking this front and getting to the second level
- Sanchez plays a little fast even when he’s comfortable, Now he’s playing even faster and is clearly not a comfortable player - Thereâ??s no rhythm to Sanchez game
- Sanchez was pushing the ball, His throws had little juice, He was not letting it loose with a fluid delivery - He’s not a confident passer right now yet he did make a number of excellent throws, some of which were dropped