The Israel War Thread

You never really say anything.

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They feel entitled to kill me because I exist. No additional reason would be required. They’ll kill you, too, given the chance. Kissing their asses on the internet won’t save you.

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Hamas also killed Americans on Oct. 7. Seems like that is being ignored.

If I were the president of the United States, I would have taken the murder of those Americans as a declaration of war and those starving Palestinian Arab children would already be dead.

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These clowns think that these people were peaceful the whole time, with the occasional stoning or tossing of a homosexual off a roof, and of course the goat rape. It’s a region that has never known peace. Even before Islam.

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I am truly amazed that someone can say so little and use so many words doing so.

“Convoluted”??? There is nothing complex or complicated about expecting a word to keep the meaning of the root of the word. It is much more complex and difficult to see the rationale of altering the meaning of the root word with a simple prefix (anti).

Are you using the strict objective meaning of the word “convoluted” or taking it with a negative connotation? It would seem a very poor example using mathematical convolution and compare it to the negative connotation of “convolution.”

Most all of your explanations wonder here and there, rambling in who knows what direction. It seems your effort is to appear intelligent, but the most intelligent can concisely make a clear point. Your arguments fall far short of convoluted, but lie quite comfortably in the confusing arena.

If you feel you must reply, suit yourself. The more you say, the more you expose yourself.

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You asked me my intention a few months ago and I said none of your business. To provide beneficial feedback and receive the same.

Ultimate statements are usually more harmful than beneficial in my view, but that is not to say always.

Thank you

Yes, convoluted. I agree with the rest of this paragraph

Yes

Thank you for letting me know.

Hiding should not be taken as my intent

We get it. You really hate da Jooos.

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You’ve still said nothing. I guess you feel that being misunderstood is better than revealing your stupidity.

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Muslim isn’t a race you dumb goat fucker.

It should be your intent.

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Dude, you are sooooo delusional,please stop with the b.s. will ya

It ŕeads out like an exerpt from Mein kampf where hitler blames the jews for being responsible for letting in all the blacks/homosexuals/muslims/ala the non whites

If you’ve actually read Mein Kampf and aren’t radicalised you can cross reference his deluded claims and you’ll only find supporting data from heavily biased sources that lack any sort of fact checking. Usually hate groups and neo nazi websites and/or they’ll focus on an outcome without adknowledging how an outcome came to be.

"Indeoendent thinkers’’ call this free thinking. Those capable of thinking criticiaĺly USUALLY realise a conspiracy when they see one.

Here are sources frequently pushed bY “free thinkers” that would pushed narratiges only backed by neo nazi propaganda.

Unz may be jewish… but he has donated money to neo nazi/anti semitic groups"

Unz report is like bitchute " The Unz Review a Questionable Source due to extreme right-wing bias, promotion of propaganda, utilizing poor sources and a complete absence of fact checking.

Lew Rockwell is one frequently used by libertarians as the website disguised itself as being a source for those who are hot, red blooded free thinking Americans!

Not everything on Lew Rockwell is bs… it’s not as bad as bitchute… but like bitchute and many alt right or alt left sources Rockwell promotes conspiracies, publishes many articles that are devoid of ANY fact checking that may rely entirely on personal opinion/anecdote in which case it should be considered a blog post/journal article and an article like that doesn’t deserve to make the news.

" extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news. (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/2017/05/31/being-more-media-savvy-wont-stop-the-spread-of-fake-news-heres-why/)). Sources listed may be very untrustworthy and should be fact-checked on a per article basis.

we rate Lew Rockwell Questionable based on Extreme Right Bias, promotion of propaganda, conspiracy theories, pseudoscience, and failed fact checks."

If you want a true lack of censorship and you want unbiased media where you csn hear from all sides use https://ground.news/

NPR as a singular entity in the US is pretty good (imo)

Here’s the thing… this fact checker tool is 100% legit… it doesn’t let jewish sources off the hook for being jewish either (such as the unz report being owned by a jew). Rebel news by Avi Yemini wouldn’t be considered reliable… they cater towards a far right vias.

It also admits the Israeli government is (currently) a right wing to extreme right party

And you do get pro Isreel propaganda groups that push theough quasi conspiracies and factually incorrect info.

Though the ratio of conspirational, non factual or heavily biased Jewish bews outlets to Arab outlets like Al Jazeera of a similar nature is like 100 to 1

Contrary to many neo nazi and/or consliracy theorists beliefs… most of the media isn’t owned by jews even if you can trace jewish lineage as being present via ownership of some parent companies that own chains of media conglomerates (as if that means every story that comes out has a jewish narrative).

If the media was truly run by jews there would be NO push for a ceasefire! No push the idf to push more aid into gaza and no freak outs over accidental deaths of aid workers etc… if the media as a whole was jewish run it’d be a constant barrage of ripping into Hamas and other islamic terror organisations.

And another irritance of mine. Many anti semites postulate how jews are so liberal. The majority of jews live in Israel… Israel is hard right… almost as conservative as the trump adminisration was. Israel has a libertarian streak… but it is not a liberal country. It is liberal compared to it’s neighbouring countries some of which adoot shariah law and all of which have oppressive, dictatorial regiemes in place (in multiple cases cotrolled by islamic fordamentalist terrorist organisations or proxies of such)

And lets look at some jewish sources

Israeli 24 hour news… centre right… mixed factually (not always reliable but no conspiracies or pseudoscience. Will push government propaganda)

Jewish currents: left to far left leaning. Considered MOSTLY factual. No propaganda, no conspiracies or false claims… but only mostly factul due to a distinct left wing bias.

The jewish press. Highly factual… no government propaganda, no consliracy theories, censorship mediated by government, false claims or pseudoscience. Right wing source

Right wing… considered MOSTLY reliable as the source does use enotuonally loaded language to push conservative talking points but is otherwise free of conspiracy or pseudoscience

Right to far right. Not considered particuarly reliable as israel hayom uses strong and emotionally worded langauge and Israel Hayom DOES spread propaanda! Israel Hayom is what anti semites accuse every single media outlet with any jewish backing or ownership of being.

Israel 21c

Left wing… highly factual… no ivservable bias, conspiracy or pseudoscience

Many of Israels OWN outlets will criticise israel and the netenyahu administration because Israel is a free country

Jews in PARTS of USA are very liberal… but an equal swathe are comservative and the ultra orthodox veer hard right right

As to jews having been involved with certain liberal social movemsnts in the past… one is looking at a tiny minority… though factually dubious and conspiracy laden sources will say otherwise. There are also reasons for jewish involvement that go beyond the dumb assertion of “its because they’re jewish”.

I can’t change stupid beliefs… but I can use facts to debunk antisenitic conspiracies. Those set in their ways will stay set in their ways.

There is a lot of misinformation and conspieacy being promoted since oct 7, including a resurgence of holocaust denial (or praisal which just as sickening)

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Lets go into Palestinian outlets

Centre left… mixed to unreliable

" questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for the purpose of profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact-checked on a per-article basis"

" we rate Mondoweiss as Left Biased and Questionable due to the blending of opinion with news, the promotion of pro-Palestinian and anti-zionist propaganda, occasional reliance on poor sources, and hate group designation

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Ranked as centre to hard left

“we rate UNRWA as left-biased based on advocacy for humanitarian aid and social support for Palestine. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to serious controversies and one-sided reporting that may leave out critical context.”

“we rate IslamiCity as Left-Biased due to its left-leaning editorial choices and the framing of political content. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to the occasional use of poor sources as well as the promotion of religious pseudoscience”

" questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing of credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news

Overall, we rate Quds News Network as Left-leaning in bias and questionable due to a lack of transparency, the promotion of propaganda, poor sourcing, and numerous failed fact checks.

" * Overall, we rate Al Mayadeen as Left-biased due to its alignment with progressive ideologies and questionable based on promoting pro-Hezbollah propaganda, poor sourcing techniques, a lack of transparency, and several failed fact checks."

For reference Hezbollah is another terrorist organisation like Hamas.

" * Overall, we rate Electronic Intifada Left biased based on political editorial perspectives that favor a socialist perspective and strong pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli bias. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to a lack of transparency regarding funding, one-sided reporting, and a false claim."

It is the PALESTINIAN and Arab sources that veer left… not the jewish and israeli sources

Remember left wing doesn’t necessarily entail the new breed/wave of woke liberal nonesense that kicked up in the mid 2010s.

Before posting knee jerk articles on events that wind up being proven factuslly dubious or outright false… wait for emotion to die down, sit on the source… fact check it and post

Even unreliable sources can harbour one gem amodst a sea of bullshit.

My problem with that is how it creates a dynamic where it is entirely up to the individual reading to form a conclusion as to what is valid and what is propaganda, pseudoscience or factually incorrect

Many a times the bitchute viewer is unqualified or unread in a particular field… or like MOST people they lack the relevant critical thinking ability to weed out fact from fiction most of the time… so if you have a source that tells the truth as it is 99% of the time vs a source where it’s 95% bullshit it becomes draining to browse through the bullshit unless you are a radical or a “free thinker” (tinfoil hat) and info that shouldn’t pass ones bullshit detector flows through freely

Here’s why I hate bitchute (has been used as a “free thinkers” website because it doesn’t allow censorship)

Bitchute functions under the guise of free speech and lack of cencorship…

But you can lack censorship and put out warnings when info posted is deliberately incorrect…

Bitchutes fact check

" questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news"

"we rate BitChute extreme right and Questionable based on the promotion of conspiracy theories, propaganda, hate speech, poor sourcing, fake news, and a lack of transparency. This source is not credible for accurate information "

" In review, BitChute publishes user-uploaded videos that often contain extreme, misleading, or fake far-right content. For example, they publish videos from right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones such as this UN Propaganda Prepares Pacific Islanders For The Rise of the New World Order. Based on the content’s offensive and often false nature, we will not provide more hyperlinks to their website. They generally promote illegal content and hate speech that has been banned from other services. Other topics frequently found on the website are neo-Nazism, white supremacy, Qanon conspiracies, and pro-Trump propaganda.

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, “BitChute, is a low-rent YouTube clone that carries an array of hate-fueled material, including white nationalist podcasts, propaganda linked to a murderous neo-Nazi group, and a parody song called “N—– Babies,” which chortles at the idea of slaughtering and then eating black infants.” Further, during the Coronavirus pandemic, they have frequently published disinformation, such as the banned video Plandemic, riddled with false claims. In general, this is a website that offers disinformation and offensive content. Put another way, it is the 4-Chan or 8-Chan of video. It is not credible on any level."

Plandemic was also posted on here. I had to watch plandemic in it’s entirity so I could deconstruct it and show family and a few friends why it was absolute BS that didn’t deserve monetisation or presence on a platform where viewership could be used to drum up a profit.

“But not all of bitchutes content is like that”

From a report “We find that
only a handful of channels receive any engagement, and almost all
of those channels contain conspiracies or hate speech.”

Many on here seem to learn from sources like bitchute and perhaos consider the masses sheep for not taking in what these pseudoscientific, factually erronous, bullshit platforms and channels have to ssy

It’s not just on here. Hate speech, conspiracies i.e “jews did 9/11” seems to be gaining traction. This includes hate speech in the form of reverse racism… which eggs on regular racisn

What concerns me the most is how anti semitism is becoming flat out accepted… with top level officials at universities being unwilling to condemn bullying in which students were advocating for the genocide of jews

Hatred goes hand in hand with economic and socio-political instability

The ones I hate the most (and yes… I hate too) are those who specify I am reslonsible for or support civillian massacres, genocides, that I’m part of a greater world order, that I somehow have control over what society thinks or that my ethnic group as a whole is represented by any bad/morally indefensible action by isolsted groups of individusls.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340475088_What_is_BitChute_Characterizing_the_Free_Speech’'_Alternative_to_YouTube

That’s a nice guess. Feel is off the mark but I might think that

Unfortunately for you, it’s not working.

Doesn’t matter, you’ve still said nothing

fUNNY thing is it’s actually unfortunate for you, if it is a preference for me it would be a mild one

Intelligibility is not your strong suit.

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Everyone one of his posts feels like it was translated to Klingon and back to English through a Rent-A-Center version of Google translate.

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