The Israel War Thread

What rape? There is no mention of that. 13 children were executed. 15,000 children have been killed.

It is cute that you believe this. Do you also believe Israel is not stopping trucks from delivering aid?

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Why? There is evil on both sides. Do you not think that many who have picked up arms did so after their children and families were killed in one of those “precision attacks”?

This is the problem, people view this as a simple game with good guys and bad guys, meanwhile, innocent people suffer while those in power keep their power, profit, and control.

Take the video by Kyle for example. It is objective, using sourced material yet you focus on… his hair and @unreal24278 jumped straight to “claims of rape were false” which there was no mention of while ignoring that 13 children were executed but, I guess “such is war”… accept when it is the other side?

Objectivity and facts are thrown out, and people are driven by the emotions their biased news sources elicit.

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Yes… i do

And I believe unless either israel or a western intermediary steps in to govern gaza and the west bank we will only see Hamas 2.0 develop out of this. I’d also be in favour of the west throwing Netenyahu out provided the hostages that are still alive return home.

For the war to stop… all Hamas has to do is release the hostages. But it won’t

I am sorry children are dying… although this idea that the IDF are purposefully targeting children is just ridiculous.

As a jew… I and many others know ‘evil’ soliders serving in combat divisions that are fighting in gaza. Many of these soldiers have killed people

Not one has said “commander told us to take out kids”

It should also be noted that Hamas does use child soldiers in a similar vein to that of isis. That and the gazan ministry of health does not distinguish between men, women, children and combatants in their relorted death tolls

I’d also like to know how it is possible for Hamas’s health wing to keep such up to date measures on casualties when they can’t even keep track of the whereabouts and alive/dead status of a mere 130 hostages.

WHAT

Planes hit the world trade centre. There is footage

You have to be a special kind of indoctrinated to believe this.

How many swashtika tattoos do you have?

ISIS didn’t even exist until 2013

The “enemies of Israel” are also coincidentally the enemies of the USA.

The relationship the US has with Israel is strategic in nature.

Without Israel the USA would be on the middle easts chopping block. Yet so many "murica first’’ far right isolationists demand the USA stop getting involved in Israel or "jewcentric’ (most childish term i’ve heard) conflicts not realising that without Israel all the bombings, shootings, rocket fire and civillian massacres that take place in Israel would take place in the USA on TOP of all the violence the USA experiences.

Hezbollah is what happened when Lebannon let in Palestinian refugees… there is a reason why so many purportedly “pro palestine” countries in the middle east want nothing to do with letting palestinian refugees in.

To come to this conclusion one must lack the ability to think critically

“People who criticise Israel incessantly using false or invalidated ‘facts’ while actual genocides rage across the world yet the same people remain silent about some of these even arab on arab genocides are probably anti semitic”

The far left (not centre left) views the world through the lens of race, skin colour and minority status irregardless of what those minorities think about the western world.

The far right also looks at the world through the lens of race and gender. Both equally stupid… and i’ve taken a good amount of time wasted trying to understsnd where both sides come from.

Many are just delusional and narcissistic in their thinking while others are radicalised through decades of intaking factually biased info yet lack the ability to discern between fact and bs as they lack the ability to think criticislly

Others fall for it as one would fall for cult like mentalities.

The most perplexing of them all are the ones who self radicalise. But these individuals from my experience lack the ability to read between the lines and think criticislly while they ironicslly accuse the ‘brainwashed centrists/everyone who doesn’t agree with them’ of being unable to view reality for the way it is.

And some will be open to debate yet set up their own rules for debate that effectively invalidate views that contrast to that of their own… so in their eyes they win

Lets not forget these debates usuallt have to be made one on one with no onlookers even if the onlookers are qualified.

My brother spends much of his life talking to people like this. I tried but lost patience after october 7 and saw the callous indifference many had (and used ridiculous excuses to justify why they shouldn’t care).

I also find many of these subtypes are quick to accuse others of gaslighting when they get the definition of gaslighting wrong and are frequently guilty of gaslighting themselves

The level of anti-Semitism throughout history the last 2 thousand years defies belief. I grew up in the South in the '50’s and '60’s where most everyone disliked the Jews for what seemed no good reason.

Maybe the Bible gives us a clue:
Matthew 27:23, "And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.
24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children."

anti-Semitic

adjective

an·​ti-Se·​mit·​ic

ˌan-tē-sə-ˈmi-tik,

ˌan-tī-

also -ˈme-

: relating to or characterized by anti-Semitism : feeling or showing hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a cultural, racial, or ethnic group

anti-Semitic statements/rhetoric

This is from the dictionary. It seems to be a very precise word. You may not like it, more because of the Bible than linguistics if we are being honest but ask yourself why you chose the edition of the dictionary you have chosen to refer to. Why not an older version? Why don’t we use the English that Shakespeare used? I mean, I could just as easily accuse you of de-evolution with regard to English for using a dictionary from the 19th century which will have different meanings for words that Shakespeare used.

There is evil everywhere, if you believe evil even exists.

I think they picked up arms prior to that.

No. The problem is people in the West applying how they reason and rationalize to a people who don’t think the same way. It’s why, if given the choice to live anywhere in the world, you would not choose a Muslim nation. You know this. And it has nothing to do with Israel but the fact you don’t fancy the idea of living among people with a set of values you detest.

I would not value anything that white dude has to say about a people he would never want to live among. He’s ignorant and lacks the capacity to know what he’s talking about.

She should have spent her efforts helping her own people.

The video I posted has nothing to do with rape. It mentions the execution of 13 children.

Based on the other video I posted, Israeli citizens and families of the hostages do not agree.

Based on what? Why would they?

15,000 children.

Whom Hamas more than likely forced to stay put under threat of gunfire because Hamas views their people as martyrs and uses human sheilds and child soldiers.

Fact: terrorist activity was going on in the hospital

Fact: this negates any protection the hospital had under internstional law

Which side is more likely to kill a child on purpose? The side that exolicitly warns civillians to evacuate all the while knowing some terrorists might try evacuate disguised as civillians (as hamas millitants dress in civillian plainclothes on purpose)

Or the side that gives children guns and tells those children to attack soldiers… and if a child shoots at a soldier… should the soldier shoot back?

Heres a nice video of Hamas millitants forcing a family to walk near a car that is then blown up by Hamas themselves

Their response ‘too bad about the horse’.

Yet people still wish to apply a western lense to this

And of course the gazan ministry of health will add this to their death toll. They frequently blame Israel when they murder their own citizens

Noble freedom fighters fighting an armed resistance against oppression

Or snivelling, cowardly cunts using guerilla warfare and hiding behind the bodies of civillians and underneath terrorist infrastructure built on reslirces diverted away from civillians that could have been used to build housing, better schools, universities and hospitals.

Gaza could have been the UAE of Palestine… instead they chose rockets, tunnels, human martyrdom and bombs

@idaho I don’t know if you’ll respond but… hiding behind humans, using literal human shields, an array of terror tunnels… indoctrinating childrèn with books like Mein Kampf and the end of the jews (book laden with antisenitic canards like blood libel… book praises the holocaust from a factual standpoint)

Im sure you are aware of oct 7… im sure you’ve seen some of the more heinous footage much of which has since been taken down like the video of two terroriste playing around with a woman’s breasts that have been cut off etc.

How is it that we have Americans old enough to remember 9/11 who support a terrorist organisation that is JUST as bad if not worse than Al Quaeda. How can they support an organisation like this and state “theres no proof” when you can still find proof on telegram and/or darker corners of the web

How is it we have commentors on here who say 9/11 was commited by jews who left bombs in the world trade centre… not the planes that crashed.

I was almost beaten by a group looking to “beat the jews to a pulp” walking outside of a bowlinf alley the other week. I was on crutches as id just had my hips replaced. This isn’t a “poor me” story… but it goes to show the degree of cowardice present in these groups for when they pick targets.

Sure.

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Do you even know what EuroMed is? Or more exactly, who is in charge of it? You might want to look into it but in the meantime I’ll just laugh.

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Ooooo

Euro med moniter

As Zecarlo said
… do you know who runs this organisation… what a joke…

" * Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor does not publish any financial date on its website, reflecting a complete lack of transparency and accountability."

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Spreading BLOOD libel is grounds for automatic invalidation…

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November 2023, Euro-Med Monitor published a statement accusing Israel of using staff at Al Shifa hospital as human shields “to conduct an extensive combing and search operation in the hospital departments before carrying out horrific mass field executions… After failing to find any evidence of a military presence in the medical facility, the Israeli soldiers went crazy and deliberately carried out a series of executions, eliminating and directly shooting a number of the wounded in cold blood….” Euro-Med Monitor also referred to “Israel’s absurd claims that Palestinian groups were using Al-Shifa Medical Complex and other hospitals in the Gaza Strip for military purposes"

Except millitants fired at troops via assault rifles and RPG’s. Israel arrested hundreds of millitants, found massive weapons stockpiles including a bunker underneath the hospital designed specifically for terrorist activity. Israel found footage of hostages transported inside Al Shifa hospital and the IDF found the remains of a dead hostage in the hospital…

Ramy Abdu owns euro med moniter

" In November 2020, Israel Minister of Defense Benjamin Gantz signed an administrative seizure order against Ramy Abdu under Israel’s anti-terrorism law."

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Ramy Abdu appeared on a 2013 list, published by Israel, of Hamas’ “main operatives and institutions” in Europe. The institutions included The European Campaign to End the Siege on Gaza (ECESG), European NGOs Empowerment Services (ENES), and the Council for European Palestinian Relations (CEPR)"

I could keep going

Here’s a photo of Ramy posing with members of Hamas

SO much evidence of your “sources” being deeply biased with flat out lies, ties to terrorist organisations and flat out legal convictions

Yet you turn to them for the lowdown. Forming conclusions like this reminds me of someone else who used to be my friend. He/she could never read between the lines and only formed conclusioms through the most radically biased sources yet at the same time this person had the audacity to accuse others of being unable to read between the lines and think critically.

Heres a photo of a child shot in the head by Hamas

Here’s another one

Here’s what indiscriminately targeting civillians ACTUALLY looks like

Here are the remains of bodies burnt to destroy evidence and/or make identification as hard as possible

I have a really bad one of a rape victim who had been burnt to remove evidence but one can still see trauma inflicted.

Post your buzzwords from sources with known ties to terrorist organisations. I’ll post photos and videos consisting of what organisations like Hamas are actually capable of.

You haven’t answereed my question

Are you a college student, an islamic findamentalist or a neo nazi

In each case you wouldn’t considerr yourself radicalised. I just want to know what kind of person sides with this

Taken on Oct 7… so before Israel’s “unprovoked genocide”.

What would the USA do in response to an orchestrated massacre like this?

Why is it that every article, report, etc. that is critical of Israel is either propaganda or a Left-wing bleeding heart?

However, am I supposed to believe what the IDF or what the “Jewish Chronicle” reports when even Israel’s own citizens are speaking out against them?

What are those photos supposed to elicit?

15,000 children dead. BUT, you justify it because it was not “targeted”…“Such is war”

ANOTHER, “Accident”, “Unintended strike” ???

So much for “Precision”

This is engineered starvation.

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