same problem with commercial gyms. I go to FSU leach recreation cente and always get a talkin to by some douche telling me to place a 300 lb bar down “nicely” while deadlifting. I also bench wrong, because my elbows aren’t flared out and im not flat on a bench, I row wrong because I dont do yates rows.
I get so pissed off because people (often weaker and less experienced) always try to come up to me and tell me what im doing “wrong”. Its really pissing me off, think I might just tell them to kindly shut the hell up.
Never since my high school strength coach has someone just came up to me and started giving technique advice.
I don’t think I am intimidating by any means but i do always wear headphones and a hat with the bill pulled low.
Maybe everyone(who is critiqued) on hear just looks approachable?
Do you sit quietly in between sets trying to make eye contact with other gym goers?
If you have this problem, you’re either not very strong, don’t look very strong, train around a bunch of delusional pricks, or are in fact yourself a delusional prick who desperately needs advice.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
If you have this problem, you’re either not very strong, don’t look very strong, train around a bunch of delusional pricks, or are in fact yourself a delusional prick who desperately needs advice.[/quote]
I am most likely a “delusional prick who desperately needs advice.”
Was this comment for me or the whole thread?
You need to be specific when you are making rude blanket statements.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
If you have this problem, you’re either not very strong, don’t look very strong, train around a bunch of delusional pricks, or are in fact yourself a delusional prick who desperately needs advice.[/quote]
I am most likely a “delusional prick who desperately needs advice.”
Was this comment for me or the whole thread?
You need to be specific when you are making rude blanket statements.[/quote]
It was a general statement for the whole thread. Nothing was directed at you. How was my post rude though?
One of the personal trainers at my gym recently told me to do squats before training arms so that my body is secreting more hormones and I can optimize my arm growth. The thing is I can totally understand how that would make sense to the typical Men’s Health reading crowd.
I just said, “Dude, I’m lucky if I can walk to my car after a leg workout, let alone over to the preacher bench.”
Oh, and I am substantially bigger, stronger, and leaner than this guy.
[quote]tveddy wrote:
Today a guy gave me some advice while I was bench pressing 405 for a triple. He was military pressing 405 so I listened like 5th grader in sex ed[/quote]
[quote]tveddy wrote:
Today a guy gave me some advice while I was bench pressing 405 for a triple. He was military pressing 405 so I listened like 5th grader in sex ed[/quote]
Damn! Military Press 405?
I’ve been training at home and my gym at work, which has EFS stuff for the past 2 years due to there literally being NO gyms in my town… well a new Golds has opened up in the next town over so the wife and I joined up. Now I get to look forward to this loony gym shenanigans again and I look forward to it! haha this shit makes me laugh.
There’s some good tips in here. I like Tim’s on page one. The gym has been open for 4 days and I’ve only been once dude to my work schedule but already I’ve seen a dude doing half squats with knee wraps over sweat pants and a belt so tight he was purple just standing there. And a guy doing shrugs standing on the bench press machine, and the guy who just walks around hitting all the water fountains in some sort of circuit while ogling the chicks on the good girl / bad girl machines. ( hip aductor / abductor). Fortunatly for me no one has said anything but it’s a matter of time…
In my last gym when Mr. Expert gave advice about squatting for example, I’d say something like “Really?? Dude thanks for the tip, I was doing it that way because the last guy like you who gave me advice said to do it this way” wow he must be a real dumb ass… it seems to make calling people a dip shit in the 3rd person easier to take. haha of course some people don’t get that I’m really referring to them. lol
[quote]Efeguwewe wrote:
I don’t listen to anyone weaker than me. Arrogant and ignorant I know, but just my thoughts[/quote]
+1 its not arrogant at all. the whole sport is about learning and getting better though time. strength follows that. eventually you get strong enough that no one says shit to you.[/quote]
Actually I never realized this till now. I used to get critiqued a shitton when I would DB press with the 70’s but this past year using the 90’s and the 100’s, no one as said anything to me. So to remedy gym advice dude situation, get stronger lol[/quote]
I think thats a bit one dimensonal. So AJ Roberts should not train with louie simmons.
I get where you are coming from in reference to this thread, but a common saying is that the greatest coaches were always mediocre athletes. [/quote]
louis simmons appeared on a top 100 list in something like 4 different decades. he’s been there and don it, and that is everything in this sport. a skinny little bitch of a personal trainer who can write a “killer” program because he reads all the latest research materiel is useless because he doesn’t know how to squat and add lbs. to his lifts over time. the sport is a grind, and you can’t learn that on the internet.
powerlifting is a strange sport in that a number of powerlifters seem to think that if someone isn’t stronger than them then they aren’t worth listening to. the majority of athletes in other sports i know have coaches who aren’t as good as the athletes - but they are better positioned to coach them. the athletes know this, i guess, or they wouldn’t have them as coaches. who should the strongest man in the world listen to? nobody? i think there is a saying about how only a fool has himself as a coach…
that being said unasked for advice… might well be unwanted advice. i don’t thank people for shitty advice they offer me. i might say ‘thanks for your opinion’ in a way that emphasizes ‘opinion’ but generally speaking if they don’t offer a rationale for their opinion and / or if they aren’t interested in my enumerating my perhaps conflicting opinion then i can’t be assed wasting my time talking with them.
there certainly is something to be said for blasting an i-pod and scowling.
[quote]alexus wrote:
the majority of athletes in other sports i know have coaches who aren’t as good as the athletes - but they are better positioned to coach them. the athletes know this, i guess, or they wouldn’t have them as coaches. who should the strongest man in the world listen to? nobody? i think there is a saying about how only a fool has himself as a coach…[/quote]
i have been on that same side of this debate for many years especially on forums. i dont think it will ever get better. in real life its not much better.
i guess i am lucky that i recently found a group of guys that do strongman, highland games, and some powerlifting meets and they are very supportive and even listen to me when i have something to say. and they are all waaaaaaaay stronger then me. but im sure its not the case everywhere as you have clearly stated to start your post.
and back to the OP. i remember back in 2000 when i was a trainer at a gym. i was informed very quickly from the other trainers to not be that guy. i found out quickly it was way more fun to chill in the corner and watch all the shenanigans from everyone else.
my fav advice guy was this dude that was all shaved, would oil up in the locker room before each lifting session. his warmup was basically him trying to pump up his lats so he could walk around with his arms all flared out. he would try and sneak chalk in and use it, it was a 24hr fitness gym so no chalk allowed. and he would tell all kinds of people that they were wrong. i loved it when he told the strong guys, that were squatting 500+ they would blow their knees out squatting like that. and they needed a bar pad so they would bruise their spine, etc.
luckily for that guy the strong ones liked me as one day he got in their face too much and i thought they were going to drag his ass out back and beat him down. thankfully i got in the middle and pulled the little oiled up guy out that mess. a part of me wanted to see it happen though, lol.
[quote]alexus wrote:
the majority of athletes in other sports i know have coaches who aren’t as good as the athletes - but they are better positioned to coach them. the athletes know this, i guess, or they wouldn’t have them as coaches. who should the strongest man in the world listen to? nobody? i think there is a saying about how only a fool has himself as a coach…[/quote]
i have been on that same side of this debate for many years especially on forums. i dont think it will ever get better. in real life its not much better.
i guess i am lucky that i recently found a group of guys that do strongman, highland games, and some powerlifting meets and they are very supportive and even listen to me when i have something to say. and they are all waaaaaaaay stronger then me. but im sure its not the case everywhere as you have clearly stated to start your post.
and back to the OP. i remember back in 2000 when i was a trainer at a gym. i was informed very quickly from the other trainers to not be that guy. i found out quickly it was way more fun to chill in the corner and watch all the shenanigans from everyone else.
my fav advice guy was this dude that was all shaved, would oil up in the locker room before each lifting session. his warmup was basically him trying to pump up his lats so he could walk around with his arms all flared out. he would try and sneak chalk in and use it, it was a 24hr fitness gym so no chalk allowed. and he would tell all kinds of people that they were wrong. i loved it when he told the strong guys, that were squatting 500+ they would blow their knees out squatting like that. and they needed a bar pad so they would bruise their spine, etc.
luckily for that guy the strong ones liked me as one day he got in their face too much and i thought they were going to drag his ass out back and beat him down. thankfully i got in the middle and pulled the little oiled up guy out that mess. a part of me wanted to see it happen though, lol.[/quote]
LOL at what his face must’ve looked like when he realized shit just got real
[quote]alexus wrote:
the majority of athletes in other sports i know have coaches who aren’t as good as the athletes - but they are better positioned to coach them. the athletes know this, i guess, or they wouldn’t have them as coaches. who should the strongest man in the world listen to? nobody? i think there is a saying about how only a fool has himself as a coach…[/quote]
i have been on that same side of this debate for many years especially on forums. i dont think it will ever get better. in real life its not much better.
i guess i am lucky that i recently found a group of guys that do strongman, highland games, and some powerlifting meets and they are very supportive and even listen to me when i have something to say. and they are all waaaaaaaay stronger then me. but im sure its not the case everywhere as you have clearly stated to start your post.
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This is a thread about unsolicited advice from random people in the gym. Usually coaches, although not as strong as their athletes, have other credentials or a track record of successful coaching.
And even if the advice giver has a credential or good track record it needs to fit the athlete in experience. High school sports coaches don’t go around offering advice to pro athletes in the same way some idiots with a PT certificate isn’t automatically qualified to give advice to anyone performing a squat.
Since I don’t have time to figure out what all the certificates/credentials mean I judge people offering advice in the gym by size/strength.
This is a thread about unsolicited advice from random people in the gym. Usually coaches, although not as strong as their athletes, have other credentials or a track record of successful coaching.
And even if the advice giver has a credential or good track record it needs to fit the athlete in experience. High school sports coaches don’t go around offering advice to pro athletes in the same way some idiots with a PT certificate isn’t automatically qualified to give advice to anyone performing a squat.
Since I don’t have time to figure out what all the certificates/credentials mean I judge people offering advice in the gym by size/strength. [/quote]
I hear that, but I maintain that if you know your ass from your elbow and have the confidence of a grown ass man and not a twelve year old teenybopper, you should be able to recognize and aknowledge whether someone is giving crap or legitimate suggestions.
My sisters partner is a genius with at least a masters in biomechanics. She doesnt even LIFT weights, but if she saw my dl and made a suggestion about experimenting with a joint angle to create a higher degree of mechanical leverage, I sure as hell would listen, give it a try and see if it has any merit.
To the point of Louie Simmons, I did not detract from his accomplishents. I simply asked the guys saying they never take advice from anybody weaker than them if AJ should perhaps not be taking Simmons advice because he is so much stronger?
[quote]SILVERDAN7 wrote:
I hear that, but I maintain that if you know your ass from your elbow and have the confidence of a grown ass man and not a twelve year old teenybopper, you should be able to recognize and aknowledge whether someone is giving crap or legitimate suggestions.
My sisters partner is a genius with at least a masters in biomechanics. She doesnt even LIFT weights, but if she saw my dl and made a suggestion about experimenting with a joint angle to create a higher degree of mechanical leverage, I sure as hell would listen, give it a try and see if it has any merit.[/quote]
LOL, Yeah I hear a lot of competitors for worlds strongest man had someone with a masters in bio-mechanics telling them how to lift the weights.
[quote]SILVERDAN7 wrote:
I hear that, but I maintain that if you know your ass from your elbow and have the confidence of a grown ass man and not a twelve year old teenybopper, you should be able to recognize and aknowledge whether someone is giving crap or legitimate suggestions.
My sisters partner is a genius with at least a masters in biomechanics. She doesnt even LIFT weights, but if she saw my dl and made a suggestion about experimenting with a joint angle to create a higher degree of mechanical leverage, I sure as hell would listen, give it a try and see if it has any merit.[/quote]
LOL, Yeah I hear a lot of competitors for worlds strongest man had someone with a masters in bio-mechanics telling them how to lift the weights. [/quote]
Your right, this man obviously could never contribute to the building of elite athletes.
well a new Golds has opened up in the next town over so the wife and I joined up. Now I get to look forward to this loony gym shenanigans again and I look forward to it! haha this shit makes me laugh.
