Great deadlifting, Mday. Numbers are realy going up.
[quote]daddyzombie wrote:
skidmark wrote:
Okay - I guess I was a little overconfident about maybe doing deads today. I feel like I’ve been beaten by pygmies with heavy sticks - my legs and back are pretty well worked from yesterday. Maybe I’ll dodder out to the garage and do abs and grip tonight.
I feel like the deadlifts got the best of me this week as well.
Hey…a training question for you guys. I’m really feeling the need for a week off, I don’t see much around here about guys taking a break. I read about deloading but I haven’t a clue what that is. Do you all take time off when the body scream at you for a break?[/quote]
I just finished CW’s TBT program that lasted 8 weeks, 3 sessions a week Total body workout. I saw great on the program in both strength and size. But, after last workout of the 7th week, I was totally wrecked both physically and CNS-wise.
It took a good 5-6 hours post workout to stop shaking and get all the way down to resting heart rate. Normally, it’s within an hour. All 3 workouts on the 8th week were a bust. I should definitely know better than to force it, but, hey, I’m stupid sometimes but always learning.
That said, I’m taking 2 weeks off to let everything recover and will start up again. Looking forward to the next cycle but will listen to my body better this time.
Now that the power rack is gone I’ve got room for my Cybex chin/dip station in the garage. So I cleaned up the garage and moved it in today. It’s been outside for about a year. Neoprene Handles are all sticky from the sun exposure, but some athletic tape over it should fix that.
I like the new setup - I can set the cinderblocks against the chinup station and have a backstop for reracking the bar at the end of squat sets. It’s too narrow to load the bar or I’d use that as my squat stand.
Good times coming for dips and chins. 
[quote]Axel44 wrote:
daddyzombie wrote:
skidmark wrote:
Okay - I guess I was a little overconfident about maybe doing deads today. I feel like I’ve been beaten by pygmies with heavy sticks - my legs and back are pretty well worked from yesterday. Maybe I’ll dodder out to the garage and do abs and grip tonight.
I feel like the deadlifts got the best of me this week as well.
Hey…a training question for you guys. I’m really feeling the need for a week off, I don’t see much around here about guys taking a break. I read about deloading but I haven’t a clue what that is. Do you all take time off when the body scream at you for a break?
I just finished CW’s TBT program that lasted 8 weeks, 3 sessions a week Total body workout. I saw great on the program in both strength and size. But, after last workout of the 7th week, I was totally wrecked both physically and CNS-wise.
It took a good 5-6 hours post workout to stop shaking and get all the way down to resting heart rate. Normally, it’s within an hour. All 3 workouts on the 8th week were a bust. I should definitely know better than to force it, but, hey, I’m stupid sometimes but always learning.
That said, I’m taking 2 weeks off to let everything recover and will start up again. Looking forward to the next cycle but will listen to my body better this time.
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Hey - nothing wrong with taking an extra day’s rest in those last weeks. Cumulative fatigue hits us older guys a little sooner than the young bucks like Chad-o.
Kudos to you for gutting it out, though.
[quote]skidmark wrote:
Now that the power rack is gone I’ve got room for my Cybex chin/dip station in the garage. So I cleaned up the garage and moved it in today. It’s been outside for about a year. Neoprene Handles are all sticky from the sun exposure, but some athletic tape over it should fix that.
I like the new setup - I can set the cinderblocks against the chinup station and have a backstop for reracking the bar at the end of squat sets. It’s too narrow to load the bar or I’d use that as my squat stand.
Good times coming for dips and chins. [/quote]
Sounds like it. Keep us posted how they grind out.
For the last two years I’ve been training with certain poundage goals in mind. As such I keep pushing beyond my capability and getting hurt. I’m just not disciplined enough to pull it back.
Besides which, constantly chasing a number has taken the enjoyment out of this for me and it’s become a race against time instead - time to the competition or time before I get “old.”
I bailing on any goals except “more,” doing what I feel like doing and maybe get some pleasure back in this past-time.
I’ll get what I can get and when I get it, put more on the bar or on the belt and see how far I can go.
[quote]skidmark wrote:
For the last two years I’ve been training with certain poundage goals in mind. As such I keep pushing beyond my capability and getting hurt. I’m just not disciplined enough to pull it back.
Besides which, constantly chasing a number has taken the enjoyment out of this for me and it’s become a race against time instead - time to the competition or time before I get “old.”
I bailing on any goals except “more,” doing what I feel like doing and maybe get some pleasure back in this past-time.
I’ll get what I can get and when I get it, put more on the bar or on the belt and see how far I can go.[/quote]
For some reason I really like this post. Forgetting the obvious health benefits, which may be questionable for some of us, I keep asking, if you don’t enjoy it why do it? Not to piss anyone off but I see the fun factor missing fo some of us. Enjoy yourself.
[quote]hel320 wrote:
skidmark wrote:
For the last two years I’ve been training with certain poundage goals in mind. As such I keep pushing beyond my capability and getting hurt. I’m just not disciplined enough to pull it back.
Besides which, constantly chasing a number has taken the enjoyment out of this for me and it’s become a race against time instead - time to the competition or time before I get “old.”
I bailing on any goals except “more,” doing what I feel like doing and maybe get some pleasure back in this past-time.
I’ll get what I can get and when I get it, put more on the bar or on the belt and see how far I can go.
For some reason I really like this post. Forgetting the obvious health benefits, which may be questionable for some of us, I keep asking, if you don’t enjoy it why do it? Not to piss anyone off but I see the fun factor missing for some of us. Enjoy yourself. [/quote]
Great post and comment. If it is just drudgery, I’ve plenty of places I can find reasons to engage in that sort of thing.
I like the new routine so far. I don’t feel wrecked by the end or stressed out about my poundages or whether I’ll get the next rep.
My joints are coming into line, I feel well knit and there’s a clear progression plan about which I haven’t any fear of accomplishing.
I like the limited number of lifts and I like the balance inherent in the movement choices. I actually considered adding pullups back in, but it doesn’t seem necessary.
I look forward to exercising more now - it’s more of a pleasure. I think this is going to be a fun ride.
[quote]skidmark wrote:
I like the new routine so far. I don’t feel wrecked by the end or stressed out about my poundages or whether I’ll get the next rep.
My joints are coming into line, I feel well knit and there’s a clear progression plan about which I haven’t any fear of accomplishing.
I like the limited number of lifts and I like the balance inherent in the movement choices. I actually considered adding pullups back in, but it doesn’t seem necessary.
I look forward to exercising more now - it’s more of a pleasure. I think this is going to be a fun ride.[/quote]
That is good to hear.
Competeing against yourself is very difficult. I have often not made my first lift to satisfaction and just blown off the rest of the workout because I was so pissed at myself.
I get caught up in the “if your not lifting more this month than You did last month, you are pissin in the wind” syndrome. I constantly have to stop and remind myself that I’m not 25, and that mentality doesn’t work for me anymore. It just leads to frustration and sore joints.
That’s probably why I asked about progress for old farts in another thread. You still see them they are just not weekly or monthly like they used to be. If that is what drives you, I can see losing motivation. Take what gains may come, but enjoy the fact that you still can, at all.
But on a progression note: Trained chest with my son yesterday, did a 5x5 routine with 255lbs. The best I’ve been in years. It’s amazing what happens when the shoulder is working. Now if the back would straighten out and I could get back to squattin, I’d be a happy camper.
[quote]hel320 wrote:
skidmark wrote:
For the last two years I’ve been training with certain poundage goals in mind. As such I keep pushing beyond my capability and getting hurt. I’m just not disciplined enough to pull it back.
Besides which, constantly chasing a number has taken the enjoyment out of this for me and it’s become a race against time instead - time to the competition or time before I get “old.”
I bailing on any goals except “more,” doing what I feel like doing and maybe get some pleasure back in this past-time.
I’ll get what I can get and when I get it, put more on the bar or on the belt and see how far I can go.
For some reason I really like this post. Forgetting the obvious health benefits, which may be questionable for some of us, I keep asking, if you don’t enjoy it why do it? Not to piss anyone off but I see the fun factor missing fo some of us. Enjoy yourself. [/quote]
Cause it makes me look sexy in a speedo!
Nah just kidding, that is the maturity of us older lifters with nothing to prove to anyone but ourselves. When it stops being fun I stop doing it.
Back to your question way earlier, have you done an honest appraisal of your weak points?
I think training the weak points is how you will get stronger for sure. Tate said it best when he said “do the stuff you suck at” but I would keep it in context to your goal of throwing things farther.
[quote]Colin Wilson wrote:
Cause it makes me look sexy in a speedo!
Nah just kidding, that is the maturity of us older lifters with nothing to prove to anyone but ourselves. When it stops being fun I stop doing it.
Back to your question way earlier, have you done an honest appraisal of your weak points?
I think training the weak points is how you will get stronger for sure. Tate said it best when he said “do the stuff you suck at” but I would keep it in context to your goal of throwing things farther.
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I actually came up with a pretty honest and accurate list of what I considered my strength and weaknesses. Have been gradually changing my workouts to hit the weak points.
[quote]hel320 wrote:
Colin Wilson wrote:
Cause it makes me look sexy in a speedo!
Nah just kidding, that is the maturity of us older lifters with nothing to prove to anyone but ourselves. When it stops being fun I stop doing it.
Back to your question way earlier, have you done an honest appraisal of your weak points?
I think training the weak points is how you will get stronger for sure. Tate said it best when he said “do the stuff you suck at” but I would keep it in context to your goal of throwing things farther.
I actually came up with a pretty honest and accurate list of what I considered my strength and weaknesses. Have been gradually changing my workouts to hit the weak points.[/quote]
My eyes! My eyes!
Honest evaluation is hard but necessary to advance, as you well know Chief, but it is the Hard that keeps bringing me back into the gym!
I really can’t wait for the football season to be over so i can start advancing on that 500 pound bench again. I will pretty much be starting from scratch as I haven’t trained really heavy for about 2 years!
Okay -
First week of Hepburn program done and results so far:
Positives
- Joints feel great including the right shoulder
- increased training frequency
- Weights are moving faster in the first sets from session to session.
- Minimal DOMS
- Appetite up.
- Look forward to training
- Mood improved
- no need for core or ancillary work as stabilizers come into play more and more as more sets are added.
Negatives (these seem mainly to be psychological thangs)
- Impatient with the concept of weights staying the same for 5 consecutive sessions.
- Don’t feel “worked out” by the end.
- Desire to add more movements (related to #2)
- Lactic acid buildup on lower body movement in later sets (I’m out of condition)
We’ll see what this is like once all 8 sets are being performed, but I suspect that my work capacity and strength will have developed from the earlier workouts to the point where it will seem like just a little extra effort, rather than a big grind.
twiceborn recommended using 80-85% of max to start and I’m finding that it was an excellent recommendation.
I’m trying to move the bar as fast as possible while maintaining form. Blowing it on the Anderson squats. I’m leaning forward in the hole too far and then once my ass comes up I good morning the weight to a position where I can fire all the hip and leg muscles together.
I need to add some GPP on off days. Was sucking wind on squats yesterday. Thinking zercher carries, DB farmer’s walks, sledgehammer tire whacking and kettlebell swings, rotated. Can’t sprint very well with this dropped foot, LoL
[quote]ecogenx wrote:
Competeing against yourself is very difficult. I have often not made my first lift to satisfaction and just blown off the rest of the workout because I was so pissed at myself.[/quote]
That doesn’t seem very productive. I understand the feeling, though.
Thank God for T-Cell Alpha.
I can stop watching the daytime soaps now.
[quote]skidmark wrote:
Thank God for T-Cell Alpha.
I can stop watching the daytime soaps now.[/quote]
Isn’t that the truth!!