Hes a character in a movie where he is the stereotypical guy who relives his highschool football days.
If I was your gynecologist Iād have to hire a couple of assistants to handle the sheer volume of you, let alone all of your whining.
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We have complete control of how we view ourselves. People categorize themselves.
This is not heaven. Job 14.1, āMan that is born of woman is of few days and full of trouble.ā
Im sorry you think I am whining, but what I am doing here is presenting a certain point of view. For the criticisms I have received, I have provided arguments against those critiques. If you think I have argued poorly, you can point that out.
Is your point that this is not heaven, that in heaven the way we do things would here would be unfair, but since we are not in heaven, we can support them?
Also, the point about us having complete control. What does that mean? If I am inclined to view myself because my nature made me susceptible to certain experiences molding my self image, where does the complete control come from?
Rather than insulting people on the internet, can you provide any reasons for why professional sports benefits society in a meaningfully different way than the gambling industry does? Participating in sports obviously provides many benefits, but what does pro sports offer society that it demands such fervor from my critique.
Could you point to a more specific thing I argued?
Would you change your point of view if I did?
Okay, letās suppose you are correct about the ills of pro sports.
Of all the ills of society where would you rank pro sports?
I ask this just to check your sanity.
If I did not argue properly, I should. But I cant say for sure.
So basically are you saying people should only complain about war? If not, what are you saying? It needs to be in a certain top percentage? I dont agree with these ideas if that is the case. If something is seen as a negative by someone, I dont see why they should not express their opinions just because there are more pressing concerns.
Is it safe to say you believe the ills of war are greater than pro sports?
Are there any other ills more important than pro sports, or is war the only one?
If you have a double digit IQ this will get painful and might require 50 more posts.
Oh look more insults. Your original point was clear that you were saying I should not complain about this issue because there are worse things than this. I asked then if only the most pressing issue should be complained about or if there is some sort of percentage hierarchy that would allow complaints. You did not answer, you merely insulted me and implied that of course there are more important problems than pro sports. But then what are we allowed to complain about according to you? Should Stuart McGill stop complaining about lower back pain causing movements too since there are people dying of starvation still?
Iām gonna take that as a no.
Sure:
- A sense of belonging to something bigger than yourself.
- Friendly competition between neighbors.
- A shitload of money, which people willingly spend.
- Something to talk about besides religion and politics.
- A distraction from the woes of the world.
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Well, how could anyone possibly know if something would change their mind before being presented with it?
- A sense of belonging to something bigger than yourself.
A find this a negative, but concede the point here. My reasons for this being a negative is that feeling a belonging because you root for the Lakers is odd. And the feeling so many fans feel when ātheir teamā wins as if it was their own achievement is something that looks like a there is a problem with society. People must feel like they never accomplish anything in their own life, so they take joy in others achievements. And these others are millionaires who do not care about them.
*Friendly competition between neighbors
I dont really see how this applies to pro sports as much as recreation sports. Are we really concerned about friendly competition from a bunch of millionaires on team Seattle who most are not even from Seattle, playing millionaires from NYC, most who are not from NYC?
*A shitload of money, which people willingly spend.
This would apply to gambling industry too.
*Something to talk about besides religion and politics
Almost anything can satisfy this. So while I concede that this point is correct, I dont see much value in it.
- A distraction from the woes of the world.
The gambling industry
satisfy this too. Also, petty distractions from how terrible the world is can be a problem too. If not distracted so much maybe people would be more inclined to actually decide to make life decent for everyone and not just the ultra rich.
Yes, literally this.
No. Itās not competition with their players, itās a competition with those who support the other team. This is important for reasons I donāt think you will grasp.
Except both form addictions which can ruin familiesā¦ Most people arenāt addicted to sports. Also, Gambling and Porn do not get revenue from advertisements - unlike sports.
Youāre right. I should spend all my spare time watching porn and gambling away the money I worked so hard to earnā¦ Or I could hit up Buffalo Wild Wings, order some beer, cheer on my and my friendsā team and stimulate the local economy via having a good time. Iāll leave it up to you to decide which one is worse.
So why is your beef with sports, instead of Smart Phones? You take away sports, and they will just scroll endlessly through YT, TikTok and Instagramā¦ even worse is doing anything on Twitter.
Or, maybe - just maybe, they will spend their time posting unpopular opinions on T-Nation forums to debate stuff that doesnāt matter - with people who wonāt change their opinion?
But Iām sure ^this never happensā¦
You are too new here to make inferences on what I meant. You seem to want to make an issue about a debatable nuance of pro sports. You have given it much thought. Have you considered you might be over inflating the problem?
Had it been competitive sports where parents are pressuring their children to excel in a sport of the parentās choosing would hold more credibility. You do know that is primarily done as a path to earn a scholarship. I will admit that some minorities might see pro sports as the only escape from poverty.
I can think of 20 ills of society that far out pace in importance to a possible ill of pro sports.
My best guess is that you just wanted start an engaging discussion. If so, you were successful.
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