The Focus on Professional Sports Is Bad for Society

There are two basic reasons I have for this. One is that since the focus is on the the best, the majority of people now only experience it through watching sports. 2 is that it makes the majority of kids who participate in sports feel like failures before they even begin adulthood.

One, since in society, the pinnacle of sports is seeing who the best in each sport is, there can only be a few who can actually participate. The general attitude of sports goes like this. You start out playing as a child to gain skills. The older you get the people who are not as good get weeded out and even if they liked the sport, they will stop playing because there is this general message that they could not meet the level needed to keep going. And if they do keep playing, there is this idea that what they are doing is silly. If you cant get onto your schools basketball team and play on a rec team, its gonna be a joke to other people you go to school with. Then you go on to college and while there are rec leagues, its obviously seen as lesser than what the school team does. And finally we reach the pros, the ultimate goal. And at this stage only a select few still play while the majority of sports fans can only participate by cheering on their favorite player or team.

It would obviously be better for society to see sports without this end goal of being a pro but for sportsā€™ end goal to be about personal enjoyment and physical development. Someoneā€™s achievement at getting their 100m sprint under 12 seconds at the age of 28 should not be seen as less meaningful than an olympic sprinters achievements.

Unfortunately though, society sees achievement not as some sort of personal improvement, achievement is when one person can step on top of someone else to get to the top of the pile. And this sort of view is how society seems to view everything not just sports.

Two, this focus on pros makes kids feel like losers before they even become adults. This is mostly true only to those kids raised by parents who bring them up as tiny athletes. This is very common from how I have seen things. When a kids plays a sport, how many times have you seen some parents getting upset at their performing under their standard. How many parents tell their kids these wild stories of how they are going to be a pro someday. These kids are raised as child professional athletes. They are taken to early morning gymnastics or late afternoon baseball practices. And the goal for their coaches is not to create an enjoyable time for these kids to spend their free time. This is work. These coaches want to create athletes who will win. The goal is not about personal improvement. Does anyone really think that coaches or parents of these child pro athletes will be happy if the child improves in their sport but still gets last place? No. They will be happy when the child can step on the faces of other children to reach the top of the pile where they can get medals and trophies. These parents dont care about personal improvement or enjoyment. They will be happy when they can see that their child is superior to others. They want to brag to other parents how superior their kid is compared to others. But this applies to almost everything. How many parents brag about how happy their child is compared to how many As they get in school or how they got 3rd place at the wrestling tournament?

And every year that goes by, their is this next level where they will see if they can keep playing their sport. Middle school tryouts turn into high school tryouts and fewer and fewer kids make it to that next level. And the end goal of sport does not change from winning, but intensifies. And while winning each season is the goal for the coach and individual, the real goal for the individual is meeting that next level. And the final level to get to is being a pro.

But how many people are going to make it to pro? Not very many. And how is this going to effect the self image of these children who have been raised as child pro athletes? All through their childhood they have been brought up to be the best athlete they can. Quite often parents will spend more energy on their kids athletic life than raising them emotionally, intellectually, or socially. So when these child pro athletes finally reach a stage they cannot reach, how do you think they are going to feel. They are going to feel like a loser. They are going to 18 years old just starting out their new adult life as a failure. All that effort to reach the professional level and they werent good enough, they are inferior, they are losers.

I disagree with nearly all of your premises and especially your conclusions. Sports are an important part of a balanced life. Pro sports are a great form of entertainment.

My main concern with sports is that we need to begin taking head trauma more seriously. CTE is very scary and weā€™re just starting to learn about it.

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Counter point: is society worth saving?

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Drugs and alcohol are also a great form of entertainment for many. But that does not mean they are good for society. What kind of good society idolizes and pays people millions of dollars for being able to throw a football well?

ā€œWe are just starting to learn about CTEā€
I dont find this convincing. Are we really supposed to think that people were reasonable to think that it was ok to get kicked in the head by a roundhouse kick without having serious problems? Were parents in the past reasonable for seeing their kids slam head first at full speed in football games thinking ā€˜it cant be that big a dealā€™? No. And they still do not care. There are still plenty of parents sending their kid to football practice not caring.

The kind of society that freely chooses to watch football for entertainment. Who should get all of the money, if not the people both providing the entertainment and putting their bodies on the line to do it?

Given that this is the result of allowing humans to do what they want, what is the alternative you would like to see forced on society?

If there were companies money off of making real execution videos, how would you feel about those companies making money? It would after all be people willingly giving them money.

To your answer, I would just make it illegal to make money off of playing sports. There used to be more of an attitude against pro sports in the past like how pro athletes could not compete in the olympics. I think society had my sort of view that pro sports does not improve society. An athlete is not like the artist who creates an album or book that did not exist in the past and are now able to enjoy.

Athletics helps with all of these.

Following this thread and your other one would lead to a world of pussies.

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Thanks for sharing your high-minded vision for society.

That would be preferable to the one we have now with depressed and emotionally detached men with alcohol addictions, and the crazy suicide rate. I dont if men are considered wimps as long as they can at least be happy.

It would be better if you could actually engage with me politely rather than just using sarcasm to insult me.

Youā€™ve made your position clear. You would like to wipe out a $17 billion dollar industry, putting countless people out of work and depriving society of an important piece of entertaiment.

You also compare watching sports to watching executions of humans. Your posts deserve to be sarcastically ridiculed.

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Your take is ridiculous. I donā€™t know anyone that feels like a ā€œloserā€ for not being a pro athlete even if they played sports in their youth.

I played baseball and soccer as a youth/HS kid. Not only did I not make pro, but I didnā€™t play at the college level. Instead of being a ā€œloserā€, I kept up an athletic life by playing softball and recreational soccer. I love watching pro sports, too, and do not feel like a loser because Mike Trout is a better baseball player than me.

Also, the main problem with your argument is this: people will pay (or focus on) the best at what they are interested in. They want to see movies made by the most talented actors and directors. They want to read books by the most talented authors. Ergo, they want to watch the best athletes compete in Olympics and their favorite sports. How does this make anyone feel like a ā€œloserā€? If I take an improv class on acting but never land a starring role in a major motion picture, should I feel like a loser?

Honestly, your take reflects your unhealthy view of self worth much more than it reflects what is ā€œbadā€ for society.

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My argument is this.
Your made a post seemingly saying that since sports is a free market, infringing on it would be wrong. I gave an example of something that a reasonable person would find detestable if lesf to exist on the free market. Thus, unless you defend the existence of execution videos being allowed on the free market, you must admit it is ok to infringe on the free market on certain instances.

Now, you make it sound like I am insane for wanting to take away an industry so big as pro sports. But this is not unreasonable. Plenty of people would like to ban the gambling industry. That is an enormous industry. Is your argument that if an industry is big enough, it should not be removed? That seems very problematic. Very abhorrent industries have existed that were very big.

Artistry and athletics are very different. People are not interested in reading the best novelists. For one, this is subjective as who is the best, and two is because people are mainly interested in reading something that intrigues them personally. I mean if people really were interested in reading the best, they would be reading all the books english majors care about.

Also, people are not interested in seeing the best actors in movies. Actors who bring in the biggest audience are more about name recognition. You can see this with animated movies where big named actors are brought in to voice characters even if these actors are not good voice actors. So it is just too different.

And your experience is your own, but I think the Uncle Rico experience is very real. The amount of people who live in the past about their sports life is pretty substantial from what I have seen.

Since your best ideas are comparing sports to drugs, human execution videos and pornography, let me save you some time on your next few rounds of high-minded rhetoric.

If watching sports is okay, would you be okay with human trafficking child sex slaves?

If watching sports is okay, would you be okay with throwing babies into an active volcano?

If watching sports is okay, would you be okay with genocide?

How many times did you beat your wife today, anyway?

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So, because some are bitter they didnā€™t become pro athletes, we should abolish a multi-billion dollar industry? So they donā€™t feel like losers?

Question: Do you think they (those that you are envisioning feeling like losers) would truly feel better if we abolished pro sports? Do you think the ā€œIf I can have it (a pro sports career), then no one else can eitherā€ is a healthy solution?

What you are doing now is constructing a straw man. You simplify what I am saying as if I were merely making simplistic arguments. But that is not the case. You have made specific defenses, which I have argued against. These being, a free market defense, and a too big to destroy defense. Both of these from what I put forward, are not good defenses.

No, and everything we like is stupid.

EDIT: I said it on the internet so now itā€™s true and people canā€™t argue with me.

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Thatā€™s not a straw man. That was sarcastic ridicule of your simple-minded ideas and absurd comparisons. Youā€™re the one who brought up human execution videos as a point of comparison, not me.

In conclusion, sports rule.

My argument is not that abolishing pro sports would bring a better mindset to people. But that the focus, which I see almost as worship in many instances, is very bad for society. It puts the focus on only the elites, where I think that sports should not be about being better than others, but about enjoyment and personal improvement. An example, I do not think that there should be a mindset that someone who wins the olympics in the 5,000 meters with a time of 12:52 should be seen as more meaningful than a person who runs local 5ks and has improved his time from 25:00 to 18:00 minutes.

I could talk about how unhealthy it is for people to worship professional athletes and teams but so many people have already said this and it is just so obvious that something is wrong when people get so excited when ā€œtheir teamā€ wins some championship that riots happen outside the stadium. How unnatural it is for people to to feel like some strangerā€™s victories they watch on tv are also their own victories. Joe Rogan said something about this I used to feel when I would watch professional fighting. How when his guy would lose that he would get so depressed. And weve never met these people yet we act like this.