I think smart people do “bodybuilding” type work for balance and injury prevention. Knowing that there are a lot of different approaches to hypertrophy and improving strength, one could argue the only difference between groups is the diet.
People forget the Ed Coan training was heavily influence by that type of mentality, He even admits his approach was influence by Bodybuilding. Along with allot of the old school Bodybuilders were also concerned about having respectable level of strength more so than what you see today… ( Not saying guys that Bodybuilders are weak, but it seems that the strength component for at least offseason training has pretty much gone out the window for some. At least if you look at other eras of the sport)
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I mentioned on another thread the whole reason I broke from it was because I had become very OCD with it . To the point it was nothing to enjoyed and I grew to hate training which caused me to divorce myself from any type of training during that period.
LOL…
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Yeah people also don’t realize that although Arnold was the guy who spoke about “The Pump” and did high volume training, he pyramided most of his sets up in weight. He didn’t use light weights when he was young.
*In case anyone misunderstands, I’m not talking about “heavy” as in limit strength training.
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Heavy is relative if you’re talking about bodybuilding training. I’ve ruffled feathers in the past when I termed a load as a “perceived weight.” The point being, and we all know this, a contracting muscle fiber doesn’t know how much weight it’s being asked to lift, just how hard it needs to contract. In such an instance, other variables come into play, and in the pursuit of developing muscles to their furthest degrees, while sparing joints, preventing injuries, and working around natural strength curves and weak points, I can list tons of very high level competitive bodybuilders who lift LIGHTER actual weights as they become more experienced. I’ve said it before, but I don’t think I ever squatted over 350 once I started competing. I stopped doing deads, I never benched over 3 plates,… and yet I grew every single year well just shy of 40.
Dan Green is one of those guys always touted as “he could be a bodybuilder!”, BUT, he does plenty of bodybuilding work cycled in and out of his typical PL stuff during his off season/peaking for a show etc.
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Understand…I just have a bias towards older era Bodybuilding plain and simple. But I agree 100% on certain aspects what you have said.
Also for clarification im not saying guys need to train or should for a 1 RM for Bodybuilding by any stretch of the imagination.
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I can say with 100% certainty that I never squatted over 350 once I started competing.
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Thanks.
Geez! Did someone piss in somebody’s Post Toasties or what?
The onion of strength and conditioning information???
What the fuck is wrong with onions? I like onions! And I like tnation! I have learned more from this site than any other site on the net. Especially this forum.
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I take it as a good thing. Ya know, onions and layers and ogres…?
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The Onion is a satirical newspaper
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What’s the article that he’s complaining about?
Wrong @MarkKO
The onion, also known as the bulb onion or common onion, is a vegetable that is the most widely cultivated species of the genus Allium.
You was way off buddy!
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This is the kind of top knotch info that keeps me coming back
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I don’t claim to be an onion expect or anything, I’ve just never read one.
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What about the Twinkie Diet?
Bwahahaahaha
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Okay! But what about annoying, talking, donkeys?
Yeah okay. It’s been a rough week and I wasn’t thinking along those lines. I gotcha now. Happy cake day!
He said he liked the author Tim, but never referenced the exact article. Just that was about not needing a big arch on the bench press. The was looooong and full of blah, blah, blah.