Blasphemy!
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To clarify, I have done this, and I’ve gotten nothing back.[/quote]
Then I don’t know what else to suggest. The info will either come straight from the source or it’ll take some effort to track down specific names, dates, and titles.
Several dozen national champion weightlifters and a few decades-worth of non-competitive gym members. I’d think that’s solid enough to stand on its own, even moreso when combined with other top coaches’ positive opinions of Rip’s work. If you’re still looking for “Joe Jones won the 2003 Pan-Am games and Chuck Charleston won the '05 USAs”, you’re on your own finding that.
There is one asterisk: Since Rippetoe does have a very specific certification and holds coaching seminars, would you follow the “lineage” (for lack of a better term) to consider an athlete trained by a Rippetoe-trained coach to be Rippetoe-trained? (I’m guessing no, based on your reply to 2jar, but I think it’s an interesting point.)
I sometimes worry that I come off fanboy-ing in these types of discussions when I’m just trying to raise counterpoints. I wasn’t meaning to refer to your fanboy comment specifically. And yep, as the saying goes, “Beware the man of one book.” There’s no single source in lifting that’s 100% on-the-money for all people in all cases, and anyone who treats a single method as a cure-all is wearing blinders.
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Unrelated confession, to keep the thread spirit alive: I’d rather skip a workout entirely than cut it short. If I’m planning to train for 75 minutes and something comes up last minute, I know how I “should” trim a session down to still get a good workout, but quality always suffers and I get irritated.
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I agree. It’s why I ask anyone who talks about Mark Rippetoe the coach. I am hoping one of them will know of these people, as all of my attempts have come back without results. I am still engaged in this very effort.
That is exactly what I am looking for. Just actual names of people who exist. I think it would be really fascinating to have that datapoint, and possibly discuss with that athlete how Rippetoe’s training was applied to them, what he did that was different than his contemporaries, etc etc.
I think it would be an interesting datapoint, but it’s not what I am specifically looking for, no. I’m more curious in his ability to produce athletes rather than coaches. I find producing the former a different skillset compared to the latter.
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This is actually a pretty cool concept, and I believe the martial arts takes a page from this book and you can be “trained” by a legend (by following the lineage back through trainers), at least some of the local guys around here have explained it that way to me with BJJ, never really thought about applying it to weight training, though it makes sense.
Ha, that’s pretty much exactly what I was thinking. Not sure how it translates to the strength world, but it’s an interesting thought process. At some point it would turn into a weird telephone game with overlap, misinterpretations, and/or tweaks, plus there are only so many ways to figure out how and when to move a barbell.
Fun story: Back in the day, one of the guys my Sensei studied under was the infamous* Nimr Hassan, who studied directly under Kenpo Grandmaster James Mitose. So I got that going for me. 
*- Long story short, Mitose basically told his student Hassan to go kill a dude who owed him money, Hassan did and then flipped on him at trial, served a few years himself and Mitose went away for life.
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I am the exact same way.
According to another of his gym’s pages, Rip shifted away from powerlifting in 1997 and focused more on Olympic weightlifting, and while coaching the Wichita Falls Weightlifting team along with Glenn Pendlay, the team “had over 80 national champions in the AAU and USAW, along with winning a whole bunch of team national championships including 3 Junior National team titles, and the members of the 8 Collegiate National Championship teams from Midwestern State University have been WFW members.”
In my opinion, the weightlifting successes were Pendlay’s work. Look at their respective “successes” in the weightlifting world after Pendlay left Rip’s gym.
I took a day long weightlifting seminar with Pendlay when he was still at California Strength. Overheard a few Rip stories during break times…Jon North was a Pendlay protege and probably heard all the stories…
The strange thing is when I see Rip’s YouTube videos and instructions I shake my head half the time like, duh? Meanwhile, I’ve seen some of his Starting Strength coaches on YouTube as well and they make a lot more sense, go figure. There’s a lesson there somewhere…
full disclosure: I have the book, and bought the DVD back in the day; with much more knowledge (says I only of course) now, the power clean instruction in the DVD shows, IMO, his lack of knowledge when it comes to weightlifting movements.
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You’ve obviously never heard of conjugate training.
Kidding… Sort of… Maybe.
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I must confess… I’ve never even read Rip.
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I strongly believe it’s possible for me to beat a bear in a fight. If I could get the bear in a choke hold I do not believe the bear could get out of it.
You just beat @pookie79 for thing I disagree most with in with this thread.
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Would that be tiger balm on the nuts or conjugate training that you disagreed with most up until this?
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Oh please.
Nothing can get out of a good choke hold,
What kind of bear are we talking about?
Polar?
Grisly?
Black?
Flannel wearing closeted gay dude?
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Pandas for sure, any cubs, and any bear less than 500lbs I’m putting to sleep!
I believe you can.
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You guys are all missing the tiger balm on the nuts train. I’ll be riding it right on in to new PR station. Choo choo bitches!
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