@Det
I miss doing sprints myself, if there is one thing I remember while lifting as a thrower; it’s that I was explosive! I’m much stronger now, but I could clean and jerk 245lbs as a junior in highschool, and now pulling that off the floor doesn’t feel much different than 400 for a deadlift! I have a steep hill in every direction from my house, really should go out and use it!
The whole protein thing is a scam to a certain extent. I have seen articles recommending anywhere from 1.5gr per kilo to 1.5 per pound as the right amount. That is a massive difference. Nobody really has any idea how much is necessary.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Also, arm and leg measurements mean nothing if you’re a fatass. 17" on stage natty, is really really really fucking impressive![/quote]
Unless you’ve ever seen (in person), someone who is close to or at contest level leanness, sporting a 17" gun, on a frame of relatively average height you will never appreciate just how impressive it really looks.
(and please don’t tell me about the guys in your gym who are 6% year round and huge -lol)
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Are arm numbers taken flexed, pumped, arm dangling at side…?
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I think the general consensus has always been flexed at a 90 degree angle. Certainly some guys will try and grab a quick pump, others will always specify if their measurement was taken ‘cold’.
S
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Also, arm and leg measurements mean nothing if you’re a fatass. 17" on stage natty, is really really really fucking impressive![/quote]
Unless you’ve ever seen (in person), someone who is close to or at contest level leanness, sporting a 17" gun, on a frame of relatively average height you will never appreciate just how impressive it really looks.
(and please don’t tell me about the guys in your gym who are 6% year round and huge -lol)
S[/quote]
Are arm numbers taken flexed, pumped, arm dangling at side…?
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I think the general consensus has always been flexed at a 90 degree angle. Certainly some guys will try and grab a quick pump, others will always specify if their measurement was taken ‘cold’.
S
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What stu said. Only cold should count I can easily puff up my arm for another 1-1.5 inch.
[quote]Myosin wrote:
There comes a day where you just have to accept your limitations.
<---- runs for cover.[/quote]
Agree’d… I gave up on my life long goal of dunking a basketball… lol
[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
-steroids are great and totally safe if used properly, so are hgh and insulin
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BRAVE 
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]MaazerSmiit wrote:
Confession 2: Rugby > American football[/quote]
X10. American football is for pussies. Rugby is for men.
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EVEN BRAVER
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join a football team and play then get back with that statement…
one some forums there are ‘purists’ that would call TRT a kind of ‘cheating’, makes no sense - any more than taking cortisol is cheating if suffering Adrenal insufficiency or taking t3, t4 for Hypothyroidism.
also - this has been a good thread and i quietly nodded in agreement with quite a lot of it
[quote]gswork wrote:
one some forums there are ‘purists’ that would call TRT a kind of ‘cheating’, makes no sense - any more than taking cortisol is cheating if suffering Adrenal insufficiency or taking t3, t4 for Hypothyroidism.
also - this has been a good thread and i quietly nodded in agreement with quite a lot of it[/quote]
I think bacon is cheating, I mean come on!! Bacon! That’s not even fair!!
[quote]gswork wrote:
one some forums there are ‘purists’ that would call TRT a kind of ‘cheating’, makes no sense - any more than taking cortisol is cheating if suffering Adrenal insufficiency or taking t3, t4 for Hypothyroidism.
also - this has been a good thread and i quietly nodded in agreement with quite a lot of it[/quote]
x2
[quote]krummdiddy wrote:
[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
-steroids are great and totally safe if used properly, so are hgh and insulin
[/quote]
BRAVE
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]MaazerSmiit wrote:
Confession 2: Rugby > American football[/quote]
X10. American football is for pussies. Rugby is for men.
[/quote]
EVEN BRAVER
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join a football team and play then get back with that statement…[/quote]
Take off your pads and helmet and then get back with that statement 
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
I think anyone that says Deadlifts don’t work your legs have dormant glutes and hamstrings and aren’t aware of it.
I think Westside is one of the worst things to happen to Raw Powerlifting
I think most posters on this website could benefit from doing sprint work
I think trying to be athletic for muscle and strength gains is criminally underated
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Great points.
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
-“Bulking” is the gayest shit in the fucking world[/quote]
I’m interested in this point. What do you mean by that?
[quote]The Hoss wrote:
[quote]krummdiddy wrote:
[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
-steroids are great and totally safe if used properly, so are hgh and insulin
[/quote]
BRAVE
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]MaazerSmiit wrote:
Confession 2: Rugby > American football[/quote]
X10. American football is for pussies. Rugby is for men.
[/quote]
EVEN BRAVER
[/quote]
join a football team and play then get back with that statement…[/quote]
Take off your pads and helmet and then get back with that statement
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
I think anyone that says Deadlifts don’t work your legs have dormant glutes and hamstrings and aren’t aware of it.
I think Westside is one of the worst things to happen to Raw Powerlifting
I think most posters on this website could benefit from doing sprint work
I think trying to be athletic for muscle and strength gains is criminally underated
[/quote]
Great points.
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
-“Bulking” is the gayest shit in the fucking world[/quote]
I’m interested in this point. What do you mean by that?
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i think he means the “traditional” style bulk where you just gain as much as possible.
A third string NFL running back would dominate a rugby match
[quote]The Hoss wrote:
[quote]krummdiddy wrote:
[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
-steroids are great and totally safe if used properly, so are hgh and insulin
[/quote]
BRAVE
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]MaazerSmiit wrote:
Confession 2: Rugby > American football[/quote]
X10. American football is for pussies. Rugby is for men.
[/quote]
EVEN BRAVER
[/quote]
join a football team and play then get back with that statement…[/quote]
Take off your pads and helmet and then get back with that statement
[/quote]
Now guys, flame free zone.
Elaboration - I don’t think american footballers are pussies, and the whole they take bigger hits vs they wear pads debate isn’t important to me (although I will reference this incident Paul Wood loses testicle after Grand Final defeat with Warrington | Daily Mail Online )
I think rugby players are more well rounded athletes is all. Footballers are probably more explosive, anaerobic, yadadyadayada, but rugby players reach similar levels of strength and explosiveness while also being able to run around for a full 80 minutes without breaks after every 10 seconds of play.
Gets the fire extinguisher ready
Former NFL running back Travis Henry, played an NFL game with a broken leg…a RUNNING back…
Those American football players…such pussies.
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
A third string NFL running back would dominate a rugby match[/quote]
YES
You guys are comparing two different sports.
Yes there are similarities but they are not comparable.
Like Greco roman and sumo wrestling
Like baseball and cricket
NASCAR and F-1
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
You guys are comparing two different sports.
Yes there are similarities but they are not comparable.
Like Greco roman and sumo wrestling
Like baseball and cricket
NASCAR and F-1[/quote]
^This.
Plus with the addition of pads people hit HARDER, due to the decrease in fear of injury. Nobody in Rugby will routinely strike someone with their forehead at a full speed run.
I have never known a lifter with good wheels that didn’t squat or have a history of having done so.
There is no reason to wear gloves while training…it isn’t that cold.
I have never known a lifter that added a significant amount of LBM after the age of 23 while remaining in ‘lean’ condition year round.
If I can’t see your knee, those aren’t shorts you’re wearing, they’re Capris.
If you don’t work hard; I don’t care how big you are.
Getting lean is the easy part.
A third string sumo wrestler would dominate the WWE.