The Fitness New Age

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

We just had a poster claim that steroids are MAGIC and transform 120lbs skinny dudes into 200lbs behemoths with little to no significant extra training.

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Easy now…no need to lie, he said that they ate to support their workouts and trained just as hard as the nattys.

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He made a lot of deliberately broad statements inviting others to fill in the gaps, baiting people to draw their own conclusions then responded by telling them those conclusions were wrong.

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I will re-ask my question, as I think it got buried a long while ago.

Who SHOULD we look up to as a natural trainee?[/quote]

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I will re-ask my question, as I think it got buried a long while ago.

Who SHOULD we look up to as a natural trainee?[/quote]
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What evidence do I have that this individual is a great natural trainee rather than a mediocre assisted trainee?

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I will re-ask my question, as I think it got buried a long while ago.

Who SHOULD we look up to as a natural trainee?[/quote]
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What evidence do I have that this individual is a great natural trainee rather than a mediocre assisted trainee?[/quote]

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I will re-ask my question, as I think it got buried a long while ago.

Who SHOULD we look up to as a natural trainee?[/quote]
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What evidence do I have that this individual is a great natural trainee rather than a mediocre assisted trainee?[/quote]

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I am unsure of how to interpret your response.

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I will re-ask my question, as I think it got buried a long while ago.

Who SHOULD we look up to as a natural trainee?[/quote]
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What evidence do I have that this individual is a great natural trainee rather than a mediocre assisted trainee?[/quote]

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I am unsure of how to interpret your response.
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My apologies. Banal humour is a gesture unwelcome and unsightly.

May I answer your question with yet another question? Why would a very sexy, tall and muscular man need another man to look up to, why cast desires of already attained aesthetics upon another?

In essence search yourself and find the one to admire.

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

My apologies. Banal humour is a gesture unwelcome and unsightly.

May I answer your question with yet another question? Why would a very sexy, tall and muscular man need another man to look up to, why cast desires of already attained aesthetics upon another?

In essence search yourself and find the one to admire.[/quote]

For the sake of my own understanding, you are in favor of no role models or sources of inspiration for a trainee, natural or otherwise, with this question?

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

My apologies. Banal humour is a gesture unwelcome and unsightly.

May I answer your question with yet another question? Why would a very sexy, tall and muscular man need another man to look up to, why cast desires of already attained aesthetics upon another?

In essence search yourself and find the one to admire.[/quote]

For the sake of my own understanding, you are in favor of no role models or sources of inspiration for a trainee, natural or otherwise, with this question?
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Nah I am just saying you are an attractive strong man, why would you need someone to look up to when you are a great specimen? Arnold looked up to Reg parks when he was a young undeveloped boy. When he became a strong and ambitious man he raised himself up as all successful men do and must.

I am sure there is a Lacan reference to the super ego in here but I will leave the psychoanalysis to the pros.

Pj92x is obvi trolling. It was fun while it lasted.

[quote]Pj92x wrote:
May I answer your question with yet another questio? [/quote]

No. That’s not an answer.

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

My apologies. Banal humour is a gesture unwelcome and unsightly.

May I answer your question with yet another question? Why would a very sexy, tall and muscular man need another man to look up to, why cast desires of already attained aesthetics upon another?

In essence search yourself and find the one to admire.[/quote]

For the sake of my own understanding, you are in favor of no role models or sources of inspiration for a trainee, natural or otherwise, with this question?
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Nah I am just saying you are an attractive strong man, why would you need someone to look up to when you are a great specimen? Arnold looked up to Reg parks when he was a young undeveloped boy. When he became a strong and ambitious man he raised himself up as all successful men do and must.

I am sure there is a Lacan reference to the super ego in here but I will leave the psychoanalysis to the pros.[/quote]

This does not answer my original question though.

[quote]gregron wrote:
Pj92x is obvi trolling. It was fun while it lasted.[/quote]

No I am just secure enough to tell another man he is good looking. Casting dispersions upon people for that is straight up homophobia or just misinterpreting my intentions. Either way I genuinely forgive you. Lets stay on topic.

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

My apologies. Banal humour is a gesture unwelcome and unsightly.

May I answer your question with yet another question? Why would a very sexy, tall and muscular man need another man to look up to, why cast desires of already attained aesthetics upon another?

In essence search yourself and find the one to admire.[/quote]

For the sake of my own understanding, you are in favor of no role models or sources of inspiration for a trainee, natural or otherwise, with this question?
[/quote]

Nah I am just saying you are an attractive strong man, why would you need someone to look up to when you are a great specimen? Arnold looked up to Reg parks when he was a young undeveloped boy. When he became a strong and ambitious man he raised himself up as all successful men do and must.

I am sure there is a Lacan reference to the super ego in here but I will leave the psychoanalysis to the pros.[/quote]

This does not answer my original question though.
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No I am not against role models though for someone who appears as dedicated and well built as you I am merely questioning a genuine need for them in your particular life at your stage of human development. Not questioning the need for one in all peoples lives in all stages of their development.

Well apparently all of the good will and support over the last month on these boards does not equal enough page views.

Welcome back Captain shit stirrer.

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Pj92x is obvi trolling. It was fun while it lasted.[/quote]

No I am just secure enough to tell another man he is good looking. Casting dispersions upon people for that is straight up homophobia or just misinterpreting my intentions. Either way I genuinely forgive you. Lets stay on topic.[/quote]
I never said anything about you commenting on how sexy other men were.

It is just obvious that you are trying to troll, that’s all.

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Pj92x is obvi trolling. It was fun while it lasted.[/quote]

No I am just secure enough to tell another man he is good looking. Casting dispersions upon people for that is straight up homophobia or just misinterpreting my intentions. Either way I genuinely forgive you. Lets stay on topic.[/quote]
I never said anything about you commenting on how sexy other men were.

It is just obvious that you are trying to troll, that’s all.[/quote]

I am not trolling and to be honest I don’t appreciate the remarks which have become the exist way to dismiss any debate online without having to put any effort or thought into it at all.

I am being serious and wish to remain on topic, or do my references to Lacan some how render me less capable of intellectual debate?

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

My apologies. Banal humour is a gesture unwelcome and unsightly.

May I answer your question with yet another question? Why would a very sexy, tall and muscular man need another man to look up to, why cast desires of already attained aesthetics upon another?

In essence search yourself and find the one to admire.[/quote]

For the sake of my own understanding, you are in favor of no role models or sources of inspiration for a trainee, natural or otherwise, with this question?
[/quote]

Nah I am just saying you are an attractive strong man, why would you need someone to look up to when you are a great specimen? Arnold looked up to Reg parks when he was a young undeveloped boy. When he became a strong and ambitious man he raised himself up as all successful men do and must.

I am sure there is a Lacan reference to the super ego in here but I will leave the psychoanalysis to the pros.[/quote]

This does not answer my original question though.
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No I am not against role models though for someone who appears as dedicated and well built as you I am merely questioning a genuine need for them in your particular life at your stage of human development. Not questioning the need for one in all peoples lives in all stages of their development.[/quote]

With this established, who should be a role model for natural trainees?

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Pj92x is obvi trolling. It was fun while it lasted.[/quote]

No I am just secure enough to tell another man he is good looking. Casting dispersions upon people for that is straight up homophobia or just misinterpreting my intentions. Either way I genuinely forgive you. Lets stay on topic.[/quote]

Fishing for ‘dispersions’ on your sexuality has been your intention from the start.

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

My apologies. Banal humour is a gesture unwelcome and unsightly.

May I answer your question with yet another question? Why would a very sexy, tall and muscular man need another man to look up to, why cast desires of already attained aesthetics upon another?

In essence search yourself and find the one to admire.[/quote]

For the sake of my own understanding, you are in favor of no role models or sources of inspiration for a trainee, natural or otherwise, with this question?
[/quote]

Nah I am just saying you are an attractive strong man, why would you need someone to look up to when you are a great specimen? Arnold looked up to Reg parks when he was a young undeveloped boy. When he became a strong and ambitious man he raised himself up as all successful men do and must.

I am sure there is a Lacan reference to the super ego in here but I will leave the psychoanalysis to the pros.[/quote]

This does not answer my original question though.
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No I am not against role models though for someone who appears as dedicated and well built as you I am merely questioning a genuine need for them in your particular life at your stage of human development. Not questioning the need for one in all peoples lives in all stages of their development.[/quote]

With this established, who should be a role model for natural trainees?
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Eugen Sandow.

Ask me how I know he is natural.

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]Pj92x wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Pj92x is obvi trolling. It was fun while it lasted.[/quote]

No I am just secure enough to tell another man he is good looking. Casting dispersions upon people for that is straight up homophobia or just misinterpreting my intentions. Either way I genuinely forgive you. Lets stay on topic.[/quote]

Fishing for ‘dispersions’ on your sexuality has been your intention from the start. [/quote]

I am all for people doing whatever they want in the privacy of their own home but do you have to throw your hetrosexuality in everyones faces in public? Stop ramming it down our throats.