serious nice progress
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
I think the side pictures do you the most justice. I second ws4sbIII or 5x5.[/quote]
I agree. My handles of love are quite hideous. Profile view I don’t look half bad. It must be the lighting. Yeah that’s it.
I never thought about giving westside a go. I’ll have to reread.
That is my hope/goal. Wait, you don’t think I’m already at 17%? Back squats, front squats, what’s the difference? My school/gym has no power/squat rack cage anything. I’m doing front squat off the back of an Olympic bench with the supports extended. Innovative, I know. Dangerous, most likely. I will be doing hack squats on my new 10x3 routine.
[quote]ALSO
with the westside they have rear delt work, which when they are up to par, will prevent you from geting shoulder injuries, etc. It’s something to think about.[/quote]
This is another good point. I need more (antagonistic?) movements. I currently do no rear anything. Might have prevented my current shoulder problem.
[quote]Tonino wrote:
Dude, your progress was phenomenal, and your pixs prove it too… congratulations, you’re an inspiration!![/quote]
Ah yes, thank you. Let’s not get too carried away with hero worship. I am just a man. A little bit stronger now, but still a man. 
[quote]jdarkraget wrote:
50 dips and 21 chinups at almost 250lbs? That is some nice work. If you cut a little fat I bet those muscles would be bulgin out, and think how many more pullups you could do with say 20 less lbs on you. Very impressive improvments. Following threads like this really helps me to keep myself on track, thanks for keepin the log going and keep up the progress.[/quote]
Thanks, and weight loss is my current goal. My wife would like to see a more defined me. It would help me look bigger as well. And my lift to weight ratio would be much better. Thanks for following along.
You did a very nice job on Rippetoes!!
I just hope you take a serious deload week, training with a bad shoulder is not very anabolic.
You look “thicker” more solid, very nice!
Soooooo, I shouldn’t have started 10x3 today? NOW you tell me
doesnt 10*3 take forever? i mean if you do squats and it takes 1 minute for a set and 2 minutes rest it takes 30 minutes for each exercise
The normal 10x3 may require those times, not sure. 10x3 FFL starts with 45 seconds of rest between sets. If all goes well, I would be done with lifting in under an hour.
4 exercises
10 sets
15 seconds per set
45 seconds of rest
= 40 minutes
Add another 10-15 minutes for set up
Hey Dude, thanks for the information in my post. Your log is an inspiration, I think the gains you have made are awesome. Keep up the hard work.
Ridge
Very good progress, man. Just saw the pics and youve gained a lot of muscle, and hence dropped some fat for certain. One advice when doing a front/rear double bi, SPREAD your shoulder blades. Your lats are huge but they don;t show up in either pic for that reason.
And yes, the side relaxed was some massive progress. YOur bench should be a lot higher with that size, in my opinion, but as long as youre making progress on a weekly basis don;t be in a hurry to push up the weights too much.
Your profile view and your rear lat spread show serious improvement.
Great job on Rippetoe’s, the Dude.
Can’t wait to see you leaner on your 10x3.
Pozz
Thanks, I can’t wait to see me leaner again as well.
I’ll be in Florida next week for Spring Break. Do I have time to cut?
/sarcasm
Actually I will be in Florida next week, but I don’t mind being a beached whale. Ok, I’m not that fat.
[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
I’ll be in Florida next week for Spring Break. Do I have time to cut?
/sarcasm
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Just use HangerBaby’s diet and you’ll be all set. Sun Chips at every meal.
That guy is embarrassing. 18 and knows everything yet looks like crap. The thing is, I probably could eat Sun Chips at every meal and still lose weight.
[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
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Hey Dude’s
Read thru your thread for the first time today. Awesome, I would agreed your thread could be inspirational for others, pointing specifically to me. The gains you made are terrific. I’m wondering, is this the first trainig routine you have done.
I’ve read the Rippetoe log on bb website (the one most people post here in the beginners section) and it appears to me this program is designed more for muscle growth and weight training development than weight (fat) loss? While i need both, my current goals are to execute on the latter. So I’d like to ask you about fat loss (or weight) you experienced during this 8 weeks.
I’m asking becuase if you experienced an accelerated loss of fat then I’d consider dropping what I’m doing now to pick this Rippetoe routine up. I’m curerntly in my 6th workout day of the Real Fast Fat Loss routine by Alwyn Cosgrove and Chad Waterbury. I’ve modified it a little to accommodate my lack of squat experience and inserted a deadlift and some upper body as part replacement.
I like it and with the modifications its not to difficult but I want to stay true to my goals and if there is someting a little better out there that is going to help me loss body fat then I certainly would like to consider it. My workout routine and diet are in my profile blog.
Oh, and by the way, the pics are a nice addition to this thread. Its nice to see some visable results, even if it is on someone else. I dont mean to muddy up your thread, just looking for some help. Thanks, I welcome the feedback.
Just dropping by your site dude.
Nice work, keep up the hard work.
[quote]Sailorchris wrote:
Hey Dude’s
Read thru your thread for the first time today. Awesome, I would agreed your thread could be inspirational for others, pointing specifically to me. The gains you made are terrific. I’m wondering, is this the first trainig routine you have done.[/quote]
This is not the first. I only done body building type routines in the past. Typical 2 or 3 day/week body part splits. Mainly inspired by Mike Mentzer. I have never trained specifically for strength, that’s what really intrigued me to start Rippetoe.
I lost 30 lbs (from 258 to 227) prior to starting the program. Went back up to 235 then 240 after Christmas. I didn’t look so good.
Trying to quote Dave Tate - “You can train for strength or train for size, but not both. If you train for size, strength will be a side effect. If you train for strength, size will be a side effect.”
I had never been as strong as I wanted to be, still not. Anyway, when you strength train, you will gain muscle. More muscle burns more calories. Rippetoe and other 5x5 routines emphasize a caloric surplus to ensure that your body will get enough nutrients to build muscle and minimize fat gain. You will gain some fat depending on how you zero in your diet. With your situation, a maintenance level of calorie intake may be better suited. You would not necessarily need a caloric surplus. For me, it is recommended 3200-3500 a day. I ate 2800. I didn’t experience great fat loss because I was lazy when it came around to cardio. I was not consistent with it. If you can do cardio daily, you will be able to burn more calories and lose fat. At least that’s the goal.
From the pictures, I did lose fat and gain muscle. How much? Not really sure. I weigh 4 lbs more than when I started but look much better, that’s all I care about. I’m honestly not concerned with how much I weigh, but how I look.
[quote]I’m asking becuase if you experienced an accelerated loss of fat then I’d consider dropping what I’m doing now to pick this Rippetoe routine up. I’m curerntly in my 6th workout day of the Real Fast Fat Loss routine by Alwyn Cosgrove and Chad Waterbury. I’ve modified it a little to accommodate my lack of squat experience and inserted a deadlift and some upper body as part replacement.
I like it and with the modifications its not to difficult but I want to stay true to my goals and if there is someting a little better out there that is going to help me loss body fat then I certainly would like to consider it. My workout routine and diet are in my profile blog.[/quote]
Right now for you, everything works and nothing works. Every other program looks better than the one your currently on. Just a fact. I say stick with what you’re doing for at least 4-6 weeks. If you’re not satisfied with the results, change it up. Try Rippetoe or Stronglifts 5x5. If you’re not experienced with squatting, Rippetoe will definitely help. You would be squatting each workout, or 3x/week.
[quote]Oh, and by the way, the pics are a nice addition to this thread. Its nice to see some visable results, even if it is on someone else. I dont mean to muddy up your thread, just looking for some help. Thanks, I welcome the feedback.
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Thanks, and don’t fear posting regular pictures of yourself. Unless you think co-workers come on here
The most important thing/goal for you right now is to be active. You will lose a lot of weight by just eating healthier and losing weight. The specific weight training program is more or less irrelevant for now.
I’m glad you made a decision for a healthier lifestyle. Have you read this article yet?
Good job man!!!
Shows what some consistency and hard work will get you, good luck with the new program!
[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
Sailorchris wrote:
Hey Dude’s
Read thru your thread for the first time today. Awesome, I would agreed your thread could be inspirational for others, pointing specifically to me. The gains you made are terrific. I’m wondering, is this the first trainig routine you have done.
This is not the first. I only done body building type routines in the past. Typical 2 or 3 day/week body part splits. Mainly inspired by Mike Mentzer. I have never trained specifically for strength, that’s what really intrigued me to start Rippetoe.
I’ve read the Rippetoe log on bb website (the one most people post here in the beginners section) and it appears to me this program is designed more for muscle growth and weight training development than weight (fat) loss? While i need both, my current goals are to execute on the latter. So I’d like to ask you about fat loss (or weight) you experienced during this 8 weeks.
I lost 30 lbs (from 258 to 227) prior to starting the program. Went back up to 235 then 240 after Christmas. I didn’t look so good.
Trying to quote Dave Tate - “You can train for strength or train for size, but not both. If you train for size, strength will be a side effect. If you train for strength, size will be a side effect.”
I had never been as strong as I wanted to be, still not. Anyway, when you strength train, you will gain muscle. More muscle burns more calories. Rippetoe and other 5x5 routines emphasize a caloric surplus to ensure that your body will get enough nutrients to build muscle and minimize fat gain. You will gain some fat depending on how you zero in your diet. With your situation, a maintenance level of calorie intake may be better suited. You would not necessarily need a caloric surplus. For me, it is recommended 3200-3500 a day. I ate 2800. I didn’t experience great fat loss because I was lazy when it came around to cardio. I was not consistent with it. If you can do cardio daily, you will be able to burn more calories and lose fat. At least that’s the goal.
From the pictures, I did lose fat and gain muscle. How much? Not really sure. I weigh 4 lbs more than when I started but look much better, that’s all I care about. I’m honestly not concerned with how much I weigh, but how I look.
I’m asking becuase if you experienced an accelerated loss of fat then I’d consider dropping what I’m doing now to pick this Rippetoe routine up. I’m curerntly in my 6th workout day of the Real Fast Fat Loss routine by Alwyn Cosgrove and Chad Waterbury. I’ve modified it a little to accommodate my lack of squat experience and inserted a deadlift and some upper body as part replacement.
I like it and with the modifications its not to difficult but I want to stay true to my goals and if there is someting a little better out there that is going to help me loss body fat then I certainly would like to consider it. My workout routine and diet are in my profile blog.
Right now for you, everything works and nothing works. Every other program looks better than the one your currently on. Just a fact. I say stick with what you’re doing for at least 4-6 weeks. If you’re not satisfied with the results, change it up. Try Rippetoe or Stronglifts 5x5. If you’re not experienced with squatting, Rippetoe will definitely help. You would be squatting each workout, or 3x/week.
Oh, and by the way, the pics are a nice addition to this thread. Its nice to see some visable results, even if it is on someone else. I dont mean to muddy up your thread, just looking for some help. Thanks, I welcome the feedback.
Thanks, and don’t fear posting regular pictures of yourself. Unless you think co-workers come on here
The most important thing/goal for you right now is to be active. You will lose a lot of weight by just eating healthier and losing weight. The specific weight training program is more or less irrelevant for now.
I’m glad you made a decision for a healthier lifestyle. Have you read this article yet?
http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1846703
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I hadn’t read that article. I enjoyed it. I’m pretty much inline with that train of thought, tough love, tough on myself, has always been my MO. I never transfered that to taking care of my body.
I look forward to reading about your continued progress.
mate your increase in strength is awesome, i think when i finish my current routine i will talk to the trainer about a version of this.
personaly i cant do a chin up and a pull up is way out of my league, same with dips, at 106kgs with a dodgey elbow they are my nemisis, but with the assisted dip machine i am making progress.
as an aside to your wife and what she wants you to do, has she been talking to my wife, or are all wifes built the same?
im really happy fr you with your progress and i hope that your newest venture works out just as well for you.