The Dorian Yates Thread

Has anyone tried his supplements from his nutrition website?


One of my favorite bodybuilding pictures period.

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
OK, so, he was a dumbass teen (what else is new) and nobody really cares what he thinks about anything except bodybuilding/training/etc.

Back to the things that really matter about Dorian Yates in this thread.[/quote]

Joel Stubbs, right? I’d recognise that back anywhere.

[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
OK, so, he was a dumbass teen (what else is new) and nobody really cares what he thinks about anything except bodybuilding/training/etc.

Back to the things that really matter about Dorian Yates in this thread.[/quote]

Joel Stubbs, right? I’d recognise that back anywhere.[/quote]

Shhhhh!!! I realized that as soon as I posted that I copied the wrong link, but I can’t seem to edit the pic…\

Besides, maybe no one will notice Dorian isn’t black.

Carry on…

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
OK, so, he was a dumbass teen (what else is new) and nobody really cares what he thinks about anything except bodybuilding/training/etc.

Back to the things that really matter about Dorian Yates in this thread.[/quote]

Sorry if my pic got us a bit sidetracked, that wasn’t my intention. I thought it was allready well known so I didn’t really think about that when I posted the pic.

So yes, my apologies and back on track we go.

Dorian on instinctive training (just a funny quote)

“If you followed your instincts you wouldn’t think of getting under a 500 pound squat bar. You’d go down to the pub, have a couple of beers and start chasing women” - Dorian Yates"

If you look at how a lot of past successful bodybuilders trained, you start to notice this trend of super high intensity. Some people claim that for a natural trainee, you can’t pull that off as easily. I think that’s true that you may not be able to do as much or as frequently with such high intensity as an assisted lifter, but that doesn’t mean that the recipe changes.

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Was just searching about his diets, on- and off-season, and came across this.

He says off season is 5500 cals per day, which surprised me. Could someone more informed tell me how much he was weighing in when “Blood and Guts” (the book) was being written, since this is apparently an excerpt (I have the vid, but not the book ).


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I was rummaging through some old boxes the other night and came across my old Blood and Guts book. It has a lot of cool pics and info about Dorian and I thought I would post up his diet just so you could get an idea of how the guy ate. I know this stuff is always interesting to see. Anyway, here it is.

WHAT I EAT ON A TYPICAL DAY

I’m usually up by 6:30 or 7 every morning. Early each morning I weigh my food out for the entire day. About 8 a.m. I have my breakfast, which will consist of 200 grams (7 ounces) of oatmeal, 10-12 egg whites, two or three egg yolks, banana, one or two pieces of whole wheat toast. I drink coffee and mineral water. For supplements, I take a mega-pak of vitamins and minerals and two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids.

My preworkout meal at 10:30 a.m. will have a protein powder-preferably from milk and egg sources-mixed with a carbohydrate powder, all mixed in water along with two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids.

My postworkout meal between 2 and 2:30 p.m. includes eight ounces of turkey, 150 grams (5 ounces) of rice, 300 grams (10.5 ounces) of sweet potatoes, sweet corn, another vegetable, water, two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids and branched-chain amino acids.

My next meal is at 4:30 or 5 p.m. I have seven ounces of tuna, 150 grams (5 ounces) of rice, salad, baked potato, water and another mega-pak of vitamins and minerals along with two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids.

My fifth meal at 7:30 or 8 p.m., I have eight ounces of steak, baked potato, mixed with vegetables, water and two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids.

My final meal is at 10 or 10:30 p.m. I have 200 grams (7 ounces) of oatmeal, eight to 10 egg whites, water and two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids.

That is what I typically eat in the off-season. It comes to about 5,500 calories per day. I’ve found that caloric amount to be just enough to gain weight at a slow and steady pace. I don’t measure my water intake and drink as much as I think I need troughout the day.

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This guy has it all wrong; it’s supposed to be more complicated than this.

I’m reposting this in the nutrition section so we can debate if Dorian actually absorbing all those calories because might have been shitting out all that corn. Benmoor will be interested in this because he’s been shitting out almonds lately.

[quote]BlakedaMan wrote:
If you look at how a lot of past successful bodybuilders trained, you start to notice this trend of super high intensity. Some people claim that for a natural trainee, you can’t pull that off as easily. I think that’s true that you may not be able to do as much or as frequently with such high intensity as an assisted lifter, but that doesn’t mean that the recipe changes. [/quote]

Huh?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]FattyFat wrote:
Isn’t ‘skinhead’ also an umbrella term, comprising both bald guys with political idelogies (leftist/rightist) and without?

[/quote]

No. He was a skin head (politically/racially) and even he acknowledged how it was viewed worldwide which is why he got the tats removed.

Skin head is not used for people who just shave their head unless someone is simply stereotyping someone.[/quote]

Then he changed and dated and married a Chinese-Black woman.

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Was just searching about his diets, on- and off-season, and came across this.

He says off season is 5500 cals per day, which surprised me. Could someone more informed tell me how much he was weighing in when “Blood and Guts” (the book) was being written, since this is apparently an excerpt (I have the vid, but not the book ).


[i]
I was rummaging through some old boxes the other night and came across my old Blood and Guts book. It has a lot of cool pics and info about Dorian and I thought I would post up his diet just so you could get an idea of how the guy ate. I know this stuff is always interesting to see. Anyway, here it is.

WHAT I EAT ON A TYPICAL DAY

I’m usually up by 6:30 or 7 every morning. Early each morning I weigh my food out for the entire day. About 8 a.m. I have my breakfast, which will consist of 200 grams (7 ounces) of oatmeal, 10-12 egg whites, two or three egg yolks, banana, one or two pieces of whole wheat toast. I drink coffee and mineral water. For supplements, I take a mega-pak of vitamins and minerals and two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids.

My preworkout meal at 10:30 a.m. will have a protein powder-preferably from milk and egg sources-mixed with a carbohydrate powder, all mixed in water along with two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids.

My postworkout meal between 2 and 2:30 p.m. includes eight ounces of turkey, 150 grams (5 ounces) of rice, 300 grams (10.5 ounces) of sweet potatoes, sweet corn, another vegetable, water, two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids and branched-chain amino acids.

My next meal is at 4:30 or 5 p.m. I have seven ounces of tuna, 150 grams (5 ounces) of rice, salad, baked potato, water and another mega-pak of vitamins and minerals along with two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids.

My fifth meal at 7:30 or 8 p.m., I have eight ounces of steak, baked potato, mixed with vegetables, water and two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids.

My final meal is at 10 or 10:30 p.m. I have 200 grams (7 ounces) of oatmeal, eight to 10 egg whites, water and two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids.

That is what I typically eat in the off-season. It comes to about 5,500 calories per day. I’ve found that caloric amount to be just enough to gain weight at a slow and steady pace. I don’t measure my water intake and drink as much as I think I need troughout the day.

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This guy has it all wrong; it’s supposed to be more complicated than this.

I’m reposting this in the nutrition section so we can debate if Dorian actually absorbing all those calories because might have been shitting out all that corn. Benmoor will be interested in this because he’s been shitting out almonds lately. [/quote]

OMGz HE’S EATIN’ OATMEALZ BEFORE HE GOEZ TO TEH BEDZ!! HE’Z GONNA CATCH TEH FATZ!

Nothing noteworthy to say other than DY was a monster.

Carry on.

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Was just searching about his diets, on- and off-season, and came across this.

He says off season is 5500 cals per day, which surprised me. Could someone more informed tell me how much he was weighing in when “Blood and Guts” (the book) was being written, since this is apparently an excerpt (I have the vid, but not the book ).


[i]
I was rummaging through some old boxes the other night and came across my old Blood and Guts book. It has a lot of cool pics and info about Dorian and I thought I would post up his diet just so you could get an idea of how the guy ate. I know this stuff is always interesting to see. Anyway, here it is.

WHAT I EAT ON A TYPICAL DAY

I’m usually up by 6:30 or 7 every morning. Early each morning I weigh my food out for the entire day. About 8 a.m. I have my breakfast, which will consist of 200 grams (7 ounces) of oatmeal, 10-12 egg whites, two or three egg yolks, banana, one or two pieces of whole wheat toast. I drink coffee and mineral water. For supplements, I take a mega-pak of vitamins and minerals and two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids.

My preworkout meal at 10:30 a.m. will have a protein powder-preferably from milk and egg sources-mixed with a carbohydrate powder, all mixed in water along with two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids.

My postworkout meal between 2 and 2:30 p.m. includes eight ounces of turkey, 150 grams (5 ounces) of rice, 300 grams (10.5 ounces) of sweet potatoes, sweet corn, another vegetable, water, two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids and branched-chain amino acids.

My next meal is at 4:30 or 5 p.m. I have seven ounces of tuna, 150 grams (5 ounces) of rice, salad, baked potato, water and another mega-pak of vitamins and minerals along with two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids.

My fifth meal at 7:30 or 8 p.m., I have eight ounces of steak, baked potato, mixed with vegetables, water and two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids.

My final meal is at 10 or 10:30 p.m. I have 200 grams (7 ounces) of oatmeal, eight to 10 egg whites, water and two or three grams of peptide-bond amino acids.

That is what I typically eat in the off-season. It comes to about 5,500 calories per day. I’ve found that caloric amount to be just enough to gain weight at a slow and steady pace. I don’t measure my water intake and drink as much as I think I need troughout the day.

[/i][/quote]

This guy has it all wrong; it’s supposed to be more complicated than this.

I’m reposting this in the nutrition section so we can debate if Dorian actually absorbing all those calories because might have been shitting out all that corn. Benmoor will be interested in this because he’s been shitting out almonds lately. [/quote]

OMGz HE’S EATIN’ OATMEALZ BEFORE HE GOEZ TO TEH BEDZ!! HE’Z GONNA CATCH TEH FATZ![/quote]

Only the whites, the yolkz iz the thing wid the cholesterol and killer micro antz so he’z cool bro

The guy was obviously disciplined as all hell, but he was also highly intelligent. He always talked about looking at your training under a microscope, and knowing exactly what you were doing so you could realistically assess if something was working or not. Of course he also didn’t get all caught up in tiny unimportant matters. I think it was in his first book where he mentions eating a chocolate bar during one of his contest preps, and people freaking out, but he rationalized that as long as he was under his numbers for the day, he’d be fine (guess we was right -lol)

S

He got dis all wrong. Ya spozed ta eat da whole egg fa nawmal tetostrone production. Even Pavel and Charles Poliquin said dat egg witez iz fa wimps!

Twoo stowy: CP, Pavel, & SA told Dowian dat he’z just a big wimp, won da Olympia by chance, and twained his back da wrong way!

Steely: Dorwian wuz weighin at tree billz in da flick!

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
OK, so, he was a dumbass teen (what else is new) and nobody really cares what he thinks about anything except bodybuilding/training/etc.

Back to the things that really matter about Dorian Yates in this thread.

*edit – posted wrong link, duh.[/quote]

I didn’t mean to imply that he didn’t change. He was always NON-vocal when he was competing…which worked against him as far as that issue. He later had it removed AFTER WINNING THE FIRST OLYMPIA. He didn’t do an interview about it until he was about to stop competing years later.

[quote]FattyFat wrote:
Isn’t ‘skinhead’ also an umbrella term, comprising both bald guys with political idelogies (leftist/rightist) and without?

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To clarify:

No I’m not a racist, that is a common mis-perception of the skinhead subculture. Most skins in the world, and in fact most skins that I know, are not racist whatsoever. It is indeed an umbrella term; some are apolitical, some are neo-Nazis, and so on. These days it just depends on the individual, whereas before hand it used to be about the lifestyle and music (and fashion I guess).

The reason I said “that is pretty cool”, is because skinheads listen to Oi! music. And Oi kicks fucking ass. :slight_smile: So there ya go.

[quote]Fuzzyapple wrote:
Has anyone tried his supplements from his nutrition website? [/quote]
I tried propeptide or whatever it was. I liked it a lot, Strawberry flavor, but it’s too expensive.

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
He got dis all wrong. Ya spozed ta eat da whole egg fa nawmal tetostrone production. Even Pavel and Charles Poliquin said dat egg witez iz fa wimps!

Twoo stowy: CP, Pavel, & SA told Dowian dat he’z just a big wimp, won da Olympia by chance, and twained his back da wrong way!

Steely: Dorwian wuz weighin at tree billz in da flick![/quote]

Detecting a bit o’ dat dere Noo Yawk Accent big man -lol.

S

Has anyone ever been able to create a movement similar to the machine pullovers he’s doing in the first vid posted at about 2:20. Over the time spent on forums, I’ve read people claiming that machine pullovers similar to that one in function were great for working the lats. I’ve been trying to recreate the movement on rows and such, any input?