And it was written by a woman, not some supposedly misogynistic, patriarchal man. She also stole the idea from 9 1/2 Weeks. Mickey Rourke’s character was even named John Gray.
And I don’t know what relevance this may or may not have, but is it a women thing where they take horror movie monsters, like vampires, and make them “sexy”? It’s like they try and turn what should be monsters into James Dean.
No idea. I just like finding waves and riding them. Very nominal interest in the cycles of the moon and tide science.
true but women are the choosers and they aren’t choosing certain “good guys” because those guys aren’t superficially attractive which is what women select over everything else. If you’re a good looking guy you can go into a job interview and get the job. Most guys do not realize how ugly their face is until they see how much easier pretty face guys have it.
i don’t know about that - i have seen some microwave behaviors from women when it comes to a guy they like
Right, the trope of a woman taming a powerful beast is ever present.
Michone in walking dead.
Khaleesi in GoT.
I’m sure there’s a million other examples, but women like ‘claiming’ powerful things.
I remember seeing a article analyzing romance novels. It seems many of the popular ones have the male character as CEOs (or high up executives), pirates, or vampires.
Sure, it’s more of a general theory, and more geared toward marriages. There are of course single women who decide they need sex that night and hop on an app. In that case, we could say they’re “pre-microwaved” and just need a dinner partner. 
So when my woman complains about her period, I should bring flowers. Maybe bake some cookies. With no expectations.
And when my woman complains about ovulation I should fire off some reverse curls and roll up my sleeves. Maybe build something. Then let the fish jump in the boat.
I read something about this recently. Yes, the full-on competitive bodybuilder look is considered unattractive to most women outside the sport. Aside from that extreme, in surveys using faceless photos, women always chose fit over fat, but there did seem to be a cut-off point when it came to muscle mass.
When asked, most of the women didn’t say they were “too big” or “gross,” but they stepped away from the physical attractiveness idea and thought instead that “that guy must be vain or conceited” or “spends all of his time in the gym, only eats chicken and rice,” “wouldn’t have time for me,” and (interestingly) “probably a cheater.” A few mentioned possible steroid use, which was also a turn off.
It was interesting because they were only supposed to be judging the guys’ looks, but they started making assumptions which affected how “attractive” the men were deemed.
All of these types of studies get more interesting of course when they’re asked about relationships vs. hook-ups.
Dude, how old are you? He was born almost a century ago. That’s your go-to handsome man?
One of my old coworkers recently claimed he and his wife hadn’t had intercourse since their last child was conceived. She’s probably 3-4 years old. Now, the dude’s a chronic exaggerator about everything, but even so, if he says it’s been about 4 years, it’s probably been at least a year. I’m not 45 with a mortgage, job stress, ailing parents, and an unhealthy lifestyle, but I just can’t imagine living under the same roof with a spouse and going a year (or more) without something.
Yeah! I really like Mel Gibson for “modern sexy guy,” haha.
The most interesting aspect of this, to me, is that most of the women also most likely were wearing make-up, had unnatural hair color and/or texture, potentially have had Botox treatments or light work done, may have been wearing spanx or flattering bras and have probably cheated on somebody at some point.
Why would you think that? Like, based on what premise?
Life experience I guess. Repeat observation. Cheating may be more limited than the rest but I’m not going to pretend women don’t paint their faces to one extent or another and ultimately try to present vanity ideals through clothes designed to be more flattering than nature or whatever else. I don’t see how it’s debatable as a general rule of thumb.
Speaking of zecarlo’s example, I am far from a movie historian, but James Dean might be (at least one of) the first truly sexy guy (in women’s eye) who was a very bad boy.
Rhett Butler was a somewhat bad boy, yet a gentleman.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a James Dean movie, but Rhett was, in addition to being “a bad boy,” a fun guy.
Robert Redford was handsome. Paul Newman was fun.
Ryan Gosling, Tom Cruise, Channing Tatum: handsome. George Clooney, Marky Mark, Denzel: fun.
I don’t know if it’s really about “bad.”
What differentiates “husband material” from “one night stand material”?
Are you asking me? If so, no idea. I like to know the men I sleep with.
Asking the whole thread, sorry.