I think what I have done is to report to you that it’s not rewarding to engage with you. You make assertions without any basis, call your thoughts “facts” and generally destroy any conversation you participate in. The only thing you’ve said in this thread that’s made me think anything but poorly of you is the bit about encouraging your daughter to prepare herself for independence, even if that is not the desired outcome (with which I agree - wouldn’t it be nice if all of our daughters were similarly equipped?).
This has been the case in pretty much all of the threads I have followed or skimmed that you’ve participated in. Even when I agree with you, I find your “debate” style ugly.
They’re everywhere! Logs, training threads, response to articles occasionally, the hiking and pet threads. Really, all over. In fact, I started a thread years ago entitled “Things That Make You Happy,” which has remained active since, and you posted in it 9 days ago. But your post wasn’t about things that make you happy, it was shitting on someone else’s happy thing. You dropped 3 griping posts and left, lol.
See what I’ve said you about you? I never said that wasn’t a desired outcome. You read that into it. You bring up my lack of facts, and I did bring up facts, it’s my interpretation of those facts you might disagree with, but then say I said something I never said.
Exactly. Everywhere but this thread. Imagine that, a poster talking about things that relate to the thread he’s posting on. I must be a real idiot for not mentioning the walk I took with my dog yesterday.
I would prefer to talk about the changes in language that are being imposed on us, who is behind it and why. These changes are being made to have an effect on how we think about society and culture and even reality. They affect our expectations from life and what we expect from other people. They affect interpersonal relationships, intimate and otherwise. You claim they are just words but if they don’t really matter or mean anything, then why change them? Why introduce Latinx when Spanish speakers don’t want it? And that’s a fact (but supposedly I don’t use facts). What’s the reasoning behind transforming a language that uses grammatical gender to a genderless language like English? Who is behind it? American leftists who are probably female or non-binary. Why? Why was Ketanji Brown terrified to answer the question what is a woman? Are you telling me she doesn’t have some definition in her mind? Why was she afraid to share it? Why were the presidents of three universities unable, or rather unwilling, to tell the truth that calling for the genocide of any group would violate campus speech codes? They looked terrified to state the truth and chose to lie. Why? Answer: You want to talk about baking cookies.
Do you know or care about the thread you’re destroying with these unrelated issues? Is your bedroom barren because since being called a Latinx your woman has turned frigid?
I don’t say [you] said something [you] never said, I quote you. See how that means that it IS what you said?
And what is this?
LOL…this in response to the following? Do you know WTF you’re talking about?
Mine are where they should be; in the threads appropriate to the conversation. I’ve also posted a great deal of happy in this thread. I adore my husband, adore my job and the security it gives me, and have said so very clearly. My bedroom is warm and active.
You claim they are unrelated. A young man is brining up sexless marriages. Not a middle aged man or senior citizen, a young man. I must be crazy to think society and culture play a role in relationships, in how people perceive each other and their roles. Discussing the current cultural and social climate is appropriate.
Threads always meander anyway so why act like they don’t. Andrew, the OP, even brought up feminism and asked, although I believe some misunderstood why he was asking, if women should be drafted or have the right to vote. What does the draft have to do with sexless marriages?
I’m not the only one to bring these issues up but you have a hard on for me some reason.
No, you don’t. Maybe you and Claudine Gay were taught how to attribute and cite by the same person. Post a quote where I said my daughter’s independence was not a desirable outcome. You won’t because you can’t.
Bingo. You agree with me. That wasn’t so hard was it?
So to clarify: my point wasn’t to discuss whether women should or should not be drafted or able to vote.
My point was that most conservatives would say women SHOULD be able to vote and should NOT be drafted. Sounds ironically feminist in perspective.
The purpose of this point was to say that feminism has a LOT of power in society. So much so thay even seemingly non-feminists share fundamental feminist beliefs. Whether that is right or wrong is utterly irrelevant.
I would argue that traditional conservative marriages (man works, wife SAHM) in today’s world is straight out of the feminist handbook as it only ever gives the woman the best in life. It maximizes female protection even at the cost of men and marital happiness.
(I work and my wife is SAHM, so relax everyone)
I once sat in a meeting across from a woman who spent a half hour pouring her guts out over not getting a new corvette.
As her multi-million dollar business owner husband explained later, “It was a bad quarter. She’ll get one next month.”. Cuz he has “fuck you” money he can throw at his wife.
For those of lesser strata, its probably ok within that couples means and boundaries.
As and actual modus operandi with either or both people not understanding means & boundaries- disasterous.
I don’t think it was meant to be analyzed but if I were to think deeply about it, I think it’s wrong. Both partners need to be happy. I can’t imagine a happy home if only one party’s happiness is prioritized or seen as relevant. I mean, seeing your wife happy or your kids happy can make you happy but at some point you’ll wonder when your happiness, a happiness not dependent on others, matters.
I don’t believe in keeping score when it comes to how much each person gives or takes in a relationship as quantifying it would be impossible and inevitably one will give more than the other but, if you are always worried about everyone else’s happiness and always doing things to make them happy and no one comes close to making a similar effort to reciprocate, how could you feel valued and loved?