Do you believe women should be drafted and eligible for combat roles?
Do you believe women should be able to vote?
Yes, it is pushed by those who have normalized victimhood. I know you were trying to imply I was the one sounding like a victim however, I stated objective facts with regard to the rise of the use of partner.
Harm to gays? You mean, victims? And no, it was forced upon heterosexuals. It’s like cis gender; you really think heterosexuals championed the use of that term?
That protects whom? Again, you make the claim that I, or any heterosexual who dislikes these terms, as coming off like victims when their use is motivated by protecting those who find words victimizing.
And? Your individual experience doesn’t mean it isn’t true. Take a gender studies class. Husband is seen as offensive because it reminds one of animal husbandry. Do you think I made that up or did I hear it said?
You do social work so you know that woke ideology has infiltrated it. Terms like privilege, implicit bias, racial and social justice, and anti racism are becoming part of your vocabulary. I wouldn’t be surprised if you’ve had DEI training. Do you call it domestic violence or IPV?
It depends on the combat role. Women can make competent snipers, intelligence officers and drone pilots (or regular pilots too), but for most infantry positions, it doesn’t make sense
Why shouldn’t they be???
“Women shouldn’t vote” implies that they should not have a say in policy, much of which directly affects them.
A good example would be Rashida Talib and Ilhan Omar. What rights did they gain and what oppression did they escape from?
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It’s not “can they be” it’s “should they be”.
You didn’t answer the draft question.
If I had to say, I’d say yes. Women would just hold different roles
A lot of “combat” roles in modern warfare don’t rely on being big and strong
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Separate but equal?
Yes, because unlike race, gender actually affects ability to perform certain roles
This does not mean that women should be excluded from doing what they can. There is no reason women should not be drafted for intelligence, sniping, medic or most air force positions.
Women can also be just as competent as staff officers or strategists. The only things they are not as good as are jobs that require carrying heavy shite
Even now, many countries only allow women to be drivers or such, but if the convoy is ambushed, those women pick up guns and shoot like everyone else
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Cmon man
I think you’re missing his point. He’s saying that women having the right to vote is a feminist belief that even conservatives agree with.
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Strategists? If I were to Google female equivalent of Alexander the Great, Caesar, Hannibal, Napoleon, Patton, Ghenghis Khan, Rommel, Foch, Sun Tzu or even Thucydides, Machiavelli, Clausewitz, etc., what names would come up?
This bro thinks Joan of Arc came over with Noah!
And Wu Zetain is a bad ass form of Kung Fu.
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Are you trolling…
To start
There’s also (among others)
- Maria Teresa
- Catherine the Great
- Rani Lakshmi Bai, led rebellions in 19th century India
- Eta Wrobel and Sarah Fortis, successful partisan leaders during WWII
Until very recently, women were explicitly forbidden from participating in high level military organisations, and historical records tended to leave women out so the fact that any of these women are recognise is quite exceptional
Your argument follows the same logic used back in the late 19th century to prevent women from obtaining higher education.
There is 0 evidence that women are intellectually inferior to men in any way on average. There are obviously exceptional men who are smarter than 99.9% women, but those men are also smarter than 99.9% of men
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Based Anna
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Thanks for the responses @EmilyQ @anna_5588 and @SkyzykS .
I want to add more to this interesting discussion. I’ll likely do so later. I see we we value marriage with equal seriousness.
For now, I will add a little more. As I’ve said, I think people look at marriage primarily between two people, rather than a social institution that keeps society advancing and running smoothly, which is antithetical to Anna’s statement that relationships are equal to marriage. Relationships, boyfriend-girlfriend, “seeing each other,” “talking to each other,” are not socially recognized institutions, and they can’t be.
Marriage comes with a set of accepted stipulations and all throughout history until the present day, there were and are penalties for breaking these stipulations (including going bye-bye in the past). Such stipulations are not possible with so-called relationships because there is no closure or contract in them.
Monogamous marriage is meant to give nearly all average men a stake in the future. Hence it was a highly-consequential element in the high trust and cooperation, social stability, military might, innovation, wealth, high-investment parenting and industriousness of the West. Other societies first looked upon it as quirk, but then realized its amazing effectiveness and copied it. This is not possible with “boyfriend-girlfriend”.
Something to consider when speaking of marriage is a quote from the repeatedly recommended book Sexual Utopia in Power: “The abolishment of marriage favors women at the expense of men. It strengthens the already strong and the attractive at the expense of the unattractive.”
My guess is some people would read that (maybe here, maybe not), and think something like, “Heehee, yeah, that’s how it is bro! Survival of the fittest!,” and never bother to consider why the West was sexually egalitarian. Some of them might be the same people who, in response to any mention of sexual regulation, will say, “That’s like the Middle East. Do you wanna put women in burqas?” Well, maybe they might consider moving to the Middle East and experience the sexual Darwinism they think is so cool!
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None of whom would make a top 100 or even 1,000 list. Note that I wrote equivalent.
Boudica? Her poor, even non-existent tactics, led to her people being wiped out.
Exactly. And I don’t want my generals to be average.
They did pretty good considering their lack of training and in eras where women were actively discouraged from learning about military stuff/leading.
Name a great male general who wasn’t trained, either by family, mentors in their clan/tribe or by some formal institution
That’s terrible! I’m sorry to hear that.
I’m asking specifically if you believe women should be drafted and put into the same exact positions their male counterparts are put into.
I would say they should NOT be drafted.
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