The dude is in pretty good shape for his size. Probably could improve on his workout. I don’t know about the cardio every day of the week thing. Damn.
I will say I thought professional referrees like those in the NFL had that as their only job. Kinda makes sense to hold another but a lawyer and a nfl referree. I bet he gets all kinds of air miles.
The article says he is “fit” and that he is. One thing I noticed about the NFL refs is that they do a ton of running around. I think he does the hour of cardio just so he can do his job. Most former college lineman/linebackers just end up being 300+ pound tubs of lard who, in the words of Bruce Springsteen, tell boring stories of their glory days. Guys like that bore the crap out of me. “Dude, you’re 50-some years old. College is over. What have you done the last 30 odd years.”
Hochuli’s diet and lifting routine may suck but I give the guy credit for staying “fit” at 55.
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I honestly expect most men to be able to look like that by simply mowing their yard once a week.
Come on, that’s a huge fucking overstatement. The guy may not squat or eat red meat, but he’s benching, by my guess, well over 300 at 55 years old. That may not be winning any meets, but it’s not too shabby.[/quote]
I never wrote that I expected for him to win any meets. This guy claims to train regularly. There is a 60 year old guy that I knew well at my old gym in Texas who trained 5 days a week and LOOKED like he trained 5 days a week. In that pic, he doesn’t look like he has much size at all. I am glad some of you seem to think his development is amazing. I don’t. My grandfather had bigger arms than that until he got sick and he was so old school he never owned a car. Is it great that he trains regularly? Yes. Should I applaud statements like, “I don’t eat red meat” and “I eat Cheetos”? No, I shouldn’t. They don’t make sense and his age doesn’t cause it to make any more sense.
[quote]sasquatch wrote:
The mere fact you need to ‘over’-respond to one and all shows who’s touchy.[/quote]
OK, whatever you say, chief.
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You are the quintessential wannabe T. Just regurgitate everything you read here.[/quote]
interesting. funny how you jump to that conclusion because I have the temerity to disagree with you.
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Nothing else is possibly any good because he isn’t doing squats and 10x3.[/quote]
where did you make that leap in logic? I really hate when people take things out of context.
I am merely critiquing his routine. He would probably have much better gains if he actually squatted and used 10X3 weighted chins for arms instead of doing 12 sets of isolation crap for biceps. Wow, real wannabe T here, pal.
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Get over yourself and your propensity to get on your knees to allthat is stated on this site. [/quote]
you should really be posting on bodybuilding.com or something. holy cow.
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Could his workout be better–possibly. So what. [/quote]
thank you for agreeing with me.
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Give credit where credit is due. He looks damn good for 55. He looks great compared to most men his age.[/quote]
obviously, you were too busy foaming at the mouth to read the part in my earlier post where I did just that.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Well, it gets the kind of results he wants, because if it didn’t, he wouldn’t do the routine. [/quote]
really? does that explain every dickhead who trains like him and persists despite looking the same in the same plateau for years on end? did you ever consider he doesn’t know any better? maybe the difference between him and people like us is that we actually go seek out new knowledge?
consider that please…
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The only thing shocking is that you can’t read. [/quote]
apparently, you can’t read either. And you have to resort to insulting me - how unfortunate.
But that does not negate the fact that his workout blows. His end goal does not get him off the hook.
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Agreed - and in less time. I just thought it proper to give the man credit when he was actually quite impressive.[/quote]
yeah, like I said you can’t read - you seemed to miss the part where I give them man credit.
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I personally didn’t think you were shitting on him - I was just giving my opinion. That said, I am not sure he is looking to ‘blow the fuck up’ - he is 6-1, 215 pounds and I doubt he is crying himself to sleep every night because he just can’t look like Jay Cutler.[/quote]
funny how you impute ‘blowing the fuck up’ to mean a GH freak like Cutler. It seems in this hyperliteral school of interpretation I have to define myself oh so clearly. And then you accuse me of not reading. Fine. let’s say he would probably be weighing in at about 235 with the same bf% at that height. Clear enough for you?
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Hochuli seems pretty content with his level of fitness and he works damn hard to achieve it. So, well done.[/quote]
I never said otherwise. I’m just saying, I don’t understand why their jocking him so much, plenty of guys out there his age in better condition than he is. He’s just a novelty because he’s on TV on Sunday afternoon.
What’s so different about this and say a feature on some dickhead actor’s training routine?
[quote]OARSMAN wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
The mere fact you need to ‘over’-respond to one and all shows who’s touchy.
OK, whatever you say, chief.
You are the quintessential wannabe T. Just regurgitate everything you read here.
interesting. funny how you jump to that conclusion because I have the temerity to disagree with you.
Nothing else is possibly any good because he isn’t doing squats and 10x3.
where did you make that leap in logic? I really hate when people take things out of context.
I am merely critiquing his routine. He would probably have much better gains if he actually squatted and used 10X3 instead of doing 12 sets of isolation crap for biceps. Wow, real wannabe T here, pal.
Get over yourself and your propensity to get on your knees to allthat is stated on this site.
you should really be posting on bodybuilding.com or something. holy cow.
Could his workout be better–possibly. So what.
thank you for agreeing with me.
Give credit where credit is due. He looks damn good for 55. He looks great compared to most men his age.
obviously, you were too busy foaming at the mouth to read the part in my earlier post where I did just that.
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Your original post–to which I responded–said NOTHING about giving him credit. After you were called on the carpet you backhandedly begrudgingly did say he may be fit.
Believe it or not, there are people out there who lift weights to be bodybuilders. Those sites have as much validity for them as any other site out there. The info on this site is top notch, but the fact remains it’s not the only or even the best way to lift for alot of people.
Because you’re one of the followers means little to me as does your opinion CHIEF.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I honestly expect most men to be able to look like that by simply mowing their yard once a week.
Come on, that’s a huge fucking overstatement. The guy may not squat or eat red meat, but he’s benching, by my guess, well over 300 at 55 years old. That may not be winning any meets, but it’s not too shabby.
I never wrote that I expected for him to win any meets. This guy claims to train regularly. There is a 60 year old guy that I knew well at my old gym in Texas who trained 5 days a week and LOOKED like he trained 5 days a week. In that pic, he doesn’t look like he has much size at all. I am glad some of you seem to think his development is amazing. I don’t. My grandfather had bigger arms than that until he got sick and he was so old school he never owned a car. Is it great that he trains regularly? Yes. Should I applaud statements like, “I don’t eat red meat” and “I eat Cheetos”? No, I shouldn’t. They don’t make sense and his age doesn’t cause it to make any more sense.[/quote]
I’ve seen him on tv loads of times and he’s got a pretty good sized upper body. I guess the pic above doesn’t really do him justice, because his upper body looks like a lot of the LBs that stand next to him on the field. So the guy has a cheat meal of Cheetos and chocolate kisses every now and then, big deal. As for not eating red meat, he probably has gotten medical advice that says he shouldn’t eat red meat. He’s a lawyer and a ref and judging by his workout routine, he’s just doing things that other people have said to do. Haven’t we all done that at some point? I remember doing similar workouts to his in college and thinking I was pretty knowledgeable about what I was doing. Of course I know now that I didn’t really know very much about muscle growth. The fact is, most of us on this site would do well to look like him at 55. A lot of people have had significant health problems by that age that limit what they can do. You have to admit that you’d have to have a REALLY big yard that grows super fast and lush and use a push, blade-type mower (the old school kind) to get as big as him. Isn’t that how Arnold got huge in the 70s?
DB
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
So the guy has a cheat meal of Cheetos and chocolate kisses every now and then, big deal. As for not eating red meat, he probably has gotten medical advice that says he shouldn’t eat red meat.
DB
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Do you think he got medical advice to eat Cheetos instead of red meat?
[quote]sasquatch wrote:
Your original post–to which I responded–said NOTHING about giving him credit. After you were called on the carpet you backhandedly begrudgingly did say he may be fit.[/quote]
what post of mine were you responding to again? your first post on this thread did not refer to mine. I didn’t backhand shit - I came right out and gave the guy his props once again, all I said is that his workout is imbalanced, his gains could have been much better if he followed some of the stuff on this site, and in the end, the only reason they are celebrating this guy is not for his development per se, but only because he is an oddity among NFL referees. Why is this so hard for you to comprehend?
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Believe it or not, there are people out there who lift weights to be bodybuilders. [/quote]
really… do tell…
really, next thing you’re going to tell me is that the training info in Muscle and Fiction or Flex has as much validity as something you’d read here? If you honestly believe this, why are you on this site? This site is pretty open about shitting all over that whole scene. It’s kind of odd don’t you think?
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The info on this site is top notch, but the fact remains it’s not the only or even the best way to lift for alot of people.[/quote]
I never said it was. Again with the leaps in logic and putting words in my mouth.
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Because you’re one of the followers means little to me as does your opinion CHIEF. [/quote]
Hey, you’re on the site too, CHIEF. Glad to have you along fellow follower.
So let’s just agree to disagree shall we, we’ll all be happy little mindless drones together - this is getting boring.
[quote]thighlord wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
So the guy has a cheat meal of Cheetos and chocolate kisses every now and then, big deal. As for not eating red meat, he probably has gotten medical advice that says he shouldn’t eat red meat.
DB
Do you think he got medical advice to eat Cheetos instead of red meat?
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Exactly. The whole “I don’t eat red meat” comment is used by many as if their health is now impeccable because they dropped the horrors of red meat consumption. It is a comment made by those who know little about nutrition and simply believed what someone told them once by also saying, “red meat will kill you”. I just bought a pound of 98% lean ground red meat…aka BEEF. Somebody stop me. To say you don’t eat red meat as a rule and then follow that up with “I eat Cheetos” is retarded. I am glad the guy gets so much support on a freaking bodybuilding forum in spite of that crap. Hell, some will even defend his comment as if it made sense.
I applaud the guy for working out. I am sure he looks better than 85% or more of the people in this country his age. If I see another picture of him looking huge, I will give him even more credit for it. That picture posted isn’t it and, again, he isn’t that damn big for someone claiming to train regularly. If some of you have that as a goal at 55, more power to you. I was under the impression that many of us here were NOT just settling for “well, he sure looks better than most his age” and leaning much more towards, “damn, he’s 55!?”. I apologize for setting my goals higher. I shall lower them so as not to piss anyone off.
Maybe it is the TV, but he looks a lot bigger in games than he does in that pic. Although, I think he has lost some size the last couple of years. Either that or my perception of big has changed and he doesn’t seem as big as he used to.
Compared to other NFL officials, he looks great. And I suppose it is somewhat of an accomplishment that he is 55 and benching over 300. But what I find the most impressive is, as his last exercise on shoulder day, he does three sets of ten chin ups. I bet 75% of this website can’t do that fully rested.
[quote]malonetd wrote:
But what I find the most impressive is, as his last exercise on shoulder day, he does three sets of ten chin ups. [/quote]
That is impressive. Tv adds 15-20lbs according to most actors. Apparently, that made a huge difference in the way many of you saw him…or that is simply one bad picture. Who you stand next to has much to do with it as well. That is why girls always seem to have a fat friend with them. I think some do it on purpose so they don’t have to diet.
I was looking online trying to find a better picture of him and found this:
http://www.jshfirm.com/custom.cfm?name=c_attorneydetail.cfm&id=7
I love this line:
“In his free time, Mr. Hochuli moonlights as a Referee in the National Football League.”
They make it sound like he is out doing pee wee games on the weekend.
[quote]OARSMAN wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
really? does that explain every dickhead who trains like him and persists despite looking the same in the same plateau for years on end? did you ever consider he doesn’t know any better? maybe the difference between him and people like us is that we actually go seek out new knowledge?
consider that please…[/quote]
I realize you are quite impressed with yourself for seeking out ‘new knowledge’ on how to lift weights. My point was that his routine wasn’t wrong unless he looks in the mirror and said ‘dammit, I wish I could just get bigger’. I have no reason to think he is doing that.
I wouldn’t use that workout - but it doesn’t blow. Its a typical volume workout from back in the day.
My original post was not a response to your post - and I never said you didn’t give him credit.
It might be because he is a professional referee and Sports Illustrated covers professional sports - that makes him a news piece.
Our conversation is over.
Hochuli is an accomplished attorney, the best ref in the NFL, can run marathons and is solid as a rock.
He probably does not have time to waste on this website so he can improve his routine although it certainly could use improvement.
I admire him. A true man.
Ed Hochuli work out routine and officiating doesn’t change the fact that the Falcons blew ass this year. Thanks a lot Mora and Knapp!
Regardless of how good his work out is or what it lacks, this is one well rounded, driven individual. He is very accomplished in his legal career, and being a referee in the NFL is no cakewalk, there is a ton of training and practice for these guys, not to mention they are reviewed and graded every week.
This guy is the quintessential ‘workout to live, not live to workout’ kind of guy. This article explains three or four things that Ed is into, he may not be that interested in spending hours optimizing his routine. Maybe with all this going on he also likes to spend time with his family, golf, read, fish etc. His workout could be better, but I respect the hell out of the guy.
[quote]Kayrob wrote:
Regardless of how good his work out is or what it lacks, this is one well rounded, driven individual. He is very accomplished in his legal career, and being a referee in the NFL is no cakewalk, there is a ton of training and practice for these guys, not to mention they are reviewed and graded every week.
This guy is the quintessential ‘workout to live, not live to workout’ kind of guy. This article explains three or four things that Ed is into, he may not be that interested in spending hours optimizing his routine. Maybe with all this going on he also likes to spend time with his family, golf, read, fish etc. His workout could be better, but I respect the hell out of the guy.[/quote]
I could care less about his routine. Some of the best bodies were built on “less than optimal” routines. I think many put way too much focus into finding the one true magic training program. In fact, I think even looking for that is pointless. Hard work will produce more results than someone less motivated on the best routine in the world.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Hard work will produce more results than someone less motivated on the best routine in the world.[/quote]
This is so true.
This is touched on a little in the audio interview with John Berardi. You can’t replace training hard with knowledge. Sometimes the best thing to do in the gym is to forget everything you learned and just go work hard. Go bust your ass and train hard for a couple weeks, with no regard for a set program or whatever, and see what happens.
It is another example of this country’s poor health and fitness habits, not to mention the ignorance towards weightlifting. This guy looks good and is fit. Which is fine. But people that are in shape and muscular and not 50% bodyfat are not the norm and looked at as freeks in this country. A guy with an above average physique is put into a national mag. I know he is 55, but it is sad that we have to celebrate somebody because he is in shape. Everybody should be fit, but it is not the case.