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Rumour is that Tarver vs. Jones Jr. III will be happening on October 1st.
Any thoughts?
Has anyone seen the Tomasz Adamek vs. Paul Briggs light heavyweight fight? In my opinion, that was better than Johnson Tarver (both matches). The stylistic contrast was very interesting. However, both of these guys still have a year or so before being able to take on the king of the division.
[quote]SKman wrote:
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Rumour is that Tarver vs. Jones Jr. III will be happening on October 1st.
Any thoughts?[/quote]
my thoughts…tarver is in it for the big payday. jones is in it for redemption.
a prime roy takes tarver to school without even being touched.
but this isn’t a prime roy jones. he has suffered two ko’s in a row. he never should have left heavyweight. he destroyed his body by jumping around in weight and it affected what made him one of the greatest talents ever…his speed, reflexes and reactions were slowed.
that being said…roy had absolutely nothing to prove before and i feel he lost his hunger. look at his accomplishments, what was left for him to do in boxing? nothing whatsoever, been there, done that, been the best of an era while doing it. he now has something to prove though, and i feel he has 2-3 good fights left in him.
tarver IS highly overrated, and roy is an all-time great.i’ll pick roy to redeem himself, even if i am a little biased.
[quote]juice20jd wrote:
SKman wrote:
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Rumour is that Tarver vs. Jones Jr. III will be happening on October 1st.
Any thoughts?
my thoughts…tarver is in it for the big payday. jones is in it for redemption.
a prime roy takes tarver to school without even being touched.
but this isn’t a prime roy jones. he has suffered two ko’s in a row. he never should have left heavyweight. he destroyed his body by jumping around in weight and it affected what made him one of the greatest talents ever…his speed, reflexes and reactions were slowed.
that being said…roy had absolutely nothing to prove before and i feel he lost his hunger. look at his accomplishments, what was left for him to do in boxing? nothing whatsoever, been there, done that, been the best of an era while doing it. he now has something to prove though, and i feel he has 2-3 good fights left in him.
tarver IS highly overrated, and roy is an all-time great.i’ll pick roy to redeem himself, even if i am a little biased.
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You’re not the only biased one, I hope Jones destroys him and then goes back to retirement.
i saw a replay of the hopkins vs. taylor fight. i had taylor winning by 2 rounds. he won the early rounds while b-hop did his typical 1 punch, pose, and run routine…hops turned it on late and took the last few rounds. 7 rounds to 5 taylor in my eyes. anyone care to comment?
a decent heavyweight matchup has finally been announced. wlad klitchko vs. sam peter. this will be interesting. wlad has good skills and good power, but he lacks confidence (bordering on fear) when heavily pressured, and his chin is very suspect. this is a huge step up for peter, who has great power in both hands, but is rather raw and unpolished. thoughts?
[quote]juice20jd wrote:
i saw a replay of the hopkins vs. taylor fight. i had taylor winning by 2 rounds. he won the early rounds while b-hop did his typical 1 punch, pose, and run routine…hops turned it on late and took the last few rounds. 7 rounds to 5 taylor in my eyes. anyone care to comment?
a decent heavyweight matchup has finally been announced. wlad klitchko vs. sam peter. this will be interesting. wlad has good skills and good power, but he lacks confidence (bordering on fear) when heavily pressured, and his chin is very suspect. this is a huge step up for peter, who has great power in both hands, but is rather raw and unpolished. thoughts?[/quote]
I still haven’t seen the Hopkins fight, so I can’t comment yet. As for the Vlad - Peter fight, I’ll take Peter by late KO. I agree that Peter looks limited, but Vlad has major stamina problems and a weak chin. Eventually Peter will connect with a bomb. In a way this is a bad move for Peter. If he wins, it will put him in the spotlight and set him up for bigger fights, maybe a title shot. I don’t think he is ready for that step yetand he needs a few more fights.
[quote]juice20jd wrote:
i saw a replay of the hopkins vs. taylor fight. i had taylor winning by 2 rounds. he won the early rounds while b-hop did his typical 1 punch, pose, and run routine…hops turned it on late and took the last few rounds. 7 rounds to 5 taylor in my eyes. anyone care to comment?
a decent heavyweight matchup has finally been announced. wlad klitchko vs. sam peter. this will be interesting. wlad has good skills and good power, but he lacks confidence (bordering on fear) when heavily pressured, and his chin is very suspect. this is a huge step up for peter, who has great power in both hands, but is rather raw and unpolished. thoughts?[/quote]
I initially bought into the Vlad Klitchko phenomenon, only to see him get rolled by Corrie Sanders and then give it up to Lamon Brewster. No heart and no chin. Samuel Peter is hungry and has waaaay too much power for Vladdie Daddy. Look for Sam Peter to overpower Vlad, knock him out and basically end Vlad’s career.
Floyd Maywether Jr. vs. Winky Wright should be a helluva fight. I think I would have to give it to Winky - Smothering Defense, great jab and he’s the bigger, stronger fighter.
I don’t think Roy Jones can find the hunger to beat Tarver at this point. Tarver learned what it takes to get up for a fight in his rubber match with Glen Johnson. He will be ready for Jones…
Interesting sidenote: Anyone know who John Ruiz has to fignt next? I thought I read somewhere that his mandatory was Nicolai Valuev - 7ft Russian Monster! I would love to see John have to fight that guy… hopefully Valuev would go to town on Ruiz…
[quote]istoeckel wrote:
Floyd Maywether Jr. vs. Winky Wright should be a helluva fight. I think I would have to give it to Winky - Smothering Defense, great jab and he’s the bigger, stronger fighter.[/quote]
First of all, I doubt this fight ever happens. I just don’t think these two guys are popular enough to sell a PPV. If it does happen, you have to give the edge to Wright because of his size advantage, but I would not be shocked if Floyd pulled it off. He’s is the most talented fighter out there right now, bar none.
I don’t question Roy’s hunger, I just don’t think he can recover psychologically from his KO losses.
[quote]Interesting sidenote: Anyone know who John Ruiz has to fignt next? I thought I read somewhere that his mandatory was Nicolai Valuev - 7ft Russian Monster! I would love to see John have to fight that guy… hopefully Valuev would go to town on Ruiz…
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I don’t know who Ruiz fights next and I don’t care. Valuev belongs as a circus sideshow, not a boxing ring. He is all hype.
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i’ve been downloading fights today…figured i’d throw out some of my personal faves and why.
- kostya tszyu vs. zab judah
- watching zab do the funky chicken was priceless
- the holyfield-bowe trilogy
- holyfield showed what heart and pride is all about.
- the gatti-ward trilogy
- two warriors, i couldn’t believe how tough these 2 were…especially ward, what a piece of iron.
- hagler vs. hearns
- pure action.
- mayorga vs. trinidad
- ricardo sticking his chin out and letting tito land 3 consecutive left hooks mad my jaw hit the floor.
- holyfield vs. tyson 1
- holyfield is the ultimate ring warrior
- roy jones vs. montell griffin 2
- you just knew jones was going to destroy him and avenge that blemish on his record…pure destruction.
[quote]juice20jd wrote:
a decent heavyweight matchup has finally been announced. wlad klitchko vs. sam peter. this will be interesting. wlad has good skills and good power, but he lacks confidence (bordering on fear) when heavily pressured, and his chin is very suspect. this is a huge step up for peter, who has great power in both hands, but is rather raw and unpolished. thoughts?[/quote]
If this was the pre-Corrie Sanders Wladimir Klitschko, I would have to pick him. But now, he’s lost all the confidence he had, and performed poorly against C-class fighter, Davarryl Williamson. But he did score that knockout against Castillo, which may slightly boost his confidence.
I would give that fight to Peter by KO in the middle rounds.
I just had to post this, I think that Ricardo Mayorga may be the best trash talker in history:
“I am going to score the quickest knock-out Chicago has ever seen,” says Nicaraguan strongman Ricardo Mayorga, who faces Michele Piccirillo on SHOWTIME PPV for the vacant WBC 154lb belt. “I am going to knock-out Piccirillo who looks like he doesn’t have any meat on his bones, like they have no food in his house. Once I beat him, I am going to go back to the hotel and help him and his team pack their bags so they can go home and make some pizzas! I hope he brings some Italian beers with him so I can drink one for him after our fight. I am the best in boxing and people will remember that Saturday night. I invite all the people to come to the fight. I know Vargas is in town and I hope he comes to the fight and sits behind Piccirillo’s corner so when I knock him out, Vargas can get in the ring next.”
[quote]SKman wrote:
I just had to post this, I think that Ricardo Mayorga may be the best trash talker in history:
“I am going to score the quickest knock-out Chicago has ever seen,” says Nicaraguan strongman Ricardo Mayorga, who faces Michele Piccirillo on SHOWTIME PPV for the vacant WBC 154lb belt. “I am going to knock-out Piccirillo who looks like he doesn’t have any meat on his bones, like they have no food in his house. Once I beat him, I am going to go back to the hotel and help him and his team pack their bags so they can go home and make some pizzas! I hope he brings some Italian beers with him so I can drink one for him after our fight. I am the best in boxing and people will remember that Saturday night. I invite all the people to come to the fight. I know Vargas is in town and I hope he comes to the fight and sits behind Piccirillo’s corner so when I knock him out, Vargas can get in the ring next.”
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mayorga is just awesome!!! i saw that fight, he put Piccirillo down a few times in the 2nd and once in the 4th. he toyed with him and played to the crowd all night…good stuff.
on a side note…i just watched a replay of hatton and kostya. i can’t believe how much hatton got away with…i mean he intentionally low blowed, was constantly holding and hitting, rabbit punches, constant clinching and huggy bear ruiz type wrestling tactics. a great effort by hatton…but possibly one of the dirtiest performances i’ve seen with an obvious home town ref. bullshit! give kostya a rematch in australia you fat mothafock!
I hear that Hatton and his people are not planning to give KT a rematch. I don’t know if he is really wussing out or if he is just waiting to see what happens in his legal battle with Frank Warren first. KT is supposedly considering a rematch with Zab Judah. I would rather see Kostya - Hatton and Mayweather - Judah first and then let the winners fight each other.
yeah, hatton’s trainer is saying that they won’t give kostya a rematch. this is just crap. he was the MAN at 140…he went to manchester, he gave the opportunity to hatton and basically played by warren’s rules. granted kostya got a hefty purse for going there, but he still did something that most “champions” wouldn’t even consider by fighting hatton in his own backyard. with a referee that is not biased and a different atmosphere, it could be a really different fight.
hatton and warren are in a legal battle as far as i know. ricky verbally promised kostya a rematch. we shall see.
mayweather vs. judah is a match i’d like to see aswell. i think kostya KO’s zab again in a rematch…tsyzu just kills slick boxers.
Well, it’s finally here. Vlad and Peter fight this Saturday, any thoughts? I’m hoping that Peter turns out to be the real deal, but Vlad knows his career is done if he loses this fight. If his stamina is good and he works behind the jab, Klitzchko could take it on points.
Jones takes this one, I don’t believe Tarver has Roy’s number at all. Tarver is too slow footed and combinations come out very slow for a fighter like Roy, even past his prime. Sometimes a fighter fails to commit himself, I think the third time is the charm for Roy.
The fight to see is this weekend though with Wladimir Klitcko vs. Samuel Peters… If Wladimir losses that’s it for him, if Peters loses then he got exposed and the hype will be gone.
vladdy gets KTFO if he gets caught once…he has a very suspect chin, no heart and fights scared when hit…what a bitch. i can’t pick a guy who has been knocked out 3 times, especially by ross puritty, and who makes excuses for every loss or bad performance. he could very well expose peter, since vladdy has an excellent offense when he feels confident…but i expect something similar to his fight with corrie sanders on saturday. bottom line, if peter walks through vlads jab, its over.
[quote]SKman wrote:
I hear that Hatton and his people are not planning to give KT a rematch. I don’t know if he is really wussing out or if he is just waiting to see what happens in his legal battle with Frank Warren first. KT is supposedly considering a rematch with Zab Judah. I would rather see Kostya - Hatton and Mayweather - Judah first and then let the winners fight each other.[/quote]
I forgot about this thread!
I remember being the only one who thought my local boy (Hatton) would win the fight.
Time for a brief smug moment… 
… the celebrations after the fight were incredible by the way.
I don’t think you can call Hatton a wussy for not taking the rematch. It would be a backward step for him. He’s beaten KT and should move on. I like the way that Hatton thinks with respects to his career. He doesn’t want to be boxing for a long time. He wants to fight the big fights, try to beat the best and then retire at the top before his health is compromised.
Hatton wants to fight Maussa next. A unification fight like this would be a logical progression. I also think that it would be another great fight due to Maussa’s unorthodox style.
I saw Ricky the other day too. To put it politely, he’s blown up a bit. Some hard work is needed again…
[quote]Breakdown wrote:
SKman wrote:
I hear that Hatton and his people are not planning to give KT a rematch. I don’t know if he is really wussing out or if he is just waiting to see what happens in his legal battle with Frank Warren first. KT is supposedly considering a rematch with Zab Judah. I would rather see Kostya - Hatton and Mayweather - Judah first and then let the winners fight each other.
I forgot about this thread!
I remember being the only one who thought my local boy (Hatton) would win the fight.
Time for a brief smug moment… … the celebrations after the fight were incredible by the way.
I don’t think you can call Hatton a wussy for not taking the rematch. It would be a backward step for him. He’s beaten KT and should move on. I like the way that Hatton thinks with respects to his career. He doesn’t want to be boxing for a long time. He wants to fight the big fights, try to beat the best and then retire at the top before his health is compromised.
Hatton wants to fight Maussa next. A unification fight like this would be a logical progression. I also think that it would be another great fight due to Maussa’s unorthodox style.
I saw Ricky the other day too. To put it politely, he’s blown up a bit. Some hard work is needed again…[/quote]
biased hometown referee…hometown crowd…illegal tactics totally ignored…a verbal promise for a rematch…kostya was inactive for the better part of 3 years and looked off…a rematch should happen. not immediately, by all means beat maussa (an overrated joke)to unify, and then give kostya his chance if he still wants to remain active. hatton owes it to him if tsyzu wants it.
ps. not discredting fatton for his win…his effort was phenomonal…just very tainted IMO.