Just finished watching Marquez-Vasquez III. Unfuckinbelievable fight…
Yep, never thought I’d say this… but Morales and Barrera’s little trilogy started to look almost tame in comparison.
Just incredible…
I swear to God, I hate the white trash soap opera they call wrestling… but it was kind of cool to see Pretty boy Floyd get thrown out of the ring. Again… dumbass for doing it, but it’s entertaining.
I bet Ricky Hatton was kind of happy.
Maskaev losing to Peter. What do you all think of that? And will Peter even get close to beating Klitschko this time around?
[quote]ukrainian wrote:
Maskaev losing to Peter. What do you all think of that? And will Peter even get close to beating Klitschko this time around?[/quote]
I didn’t watch the fight, but the HW’s are pathetic. I don’t think there’s going to be any competition for Klitscho… even though I’m not a fan, he’s too good technically to be beaten by these bums right now.
I saw Tyson and Holyfield are talking about fighting again… why, oh why…
Pacquiao wins… I missed the fight though. How was it?
Ah c’mon guys…we just had one of the most exciting fights of the year!
Pac vs Marquez, which way did you score it?
Sat in a bar with a 100 filipino dudes and they all thought Manny had lost.
Me? Am gonna watch the fight again right now and try and work this one out for good…
114-113 to Pacquiao.
NEVER thought I would say that at the time!
On closer inspection, I have to agree with what quite a few real boxing nuts - just regular guys on the net but ones who really know their shit - were saying early on:
Marquez’s punches were a lot less effective than I originally thought. Pac blocked A LOT of them on his gloves.
I can’t wait for the repeat this Sat, it’s killing me that everyone’s calling this an instant classic and I fucking missed it.
Thank God Calzaghe and Bhop is on HBO.
I still haven’t watched it either, but definetely will this weekend. I’ve been purposefully avoiding any sort of play by play.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
I still haven’t watched it either, but definetely will this weekend. I’ve been purposefully avoiding any sort of play by play.[/quote]
Yup. All I know is that it was very close.
Did you guys hear, Floyd Mayweather is gonna fight Big Show in a WWE match. Is this is a joke of what? Seriously, I think big show eats people the size of Floyd for midnight snacks. I first saw this on a commercial and I thought it was a real joke but I guess its not.
Here are different links for the information:
http://www.impactwrestling.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-17716.html
What is this going to prove?
i feel for Marquez. the guy has had a lot of controversial decisions go against him.
he won against chris john. the decision says otherwise.
he won the first fight with Pac IMO (and most boxing analysts). personally scored it 114-111 (even with the 10-6 round). Pac only won 3 rounds that fight and was totally outboxed. Just look at his face at the final bell…the look of a man who knows he lost. Result - draw. stranger things have happened.
I’ll have to watch the second fight again. there were a couple rounds which could have been called even. had marquez by 2 points. effective counter punching and ring generalship over aggression in my eyes. but on second analysis it could look different. won’t call this decision controversial though. as it was an extremely close fight. a SD is not a suprise at all.
either way, a great fight and there needs to be a third, hopefully with a CLEAR winner.
looking forward to Joe C and Nard. can’t see old man b-hops winning with his 10 punch per round output against Calzhage’s far superior workrate, but he’s beat the odds before.
good to see this thread ressurected.
[quote]ukrainian wrote:
What is this going to prove?
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That Floyd loves money.
[quote]juice20jd wrote:
i feel for Marquez. the guy has had a lot of controversial decisions go against him.
he won against chris john. the decision says otherwise.
he won the first fight with Pac IMO (and most boxing analysts). personally scored it 114-111 (even with the 10-6 round). Pac only won 3 rounds that fight and was totally outboxed. Just look at his face at the final bell…the look of a man who knows he lost. Result - draw. stranger things have happened.
I’ll have to watch the second fight again. there were a couple rounds which could have been called even. had marquez by 2 points. effective counter punching and ring generalship over aggression in my eyes. but on second analysis it could look different. won’t call this decision controversial though. as it was an extremely close fight. a SD is not a suprise at all.
either way, a great fight and there needs to be a third, hopefully with a CLEAR winner.
looking forward to Joe C and Nard. can’t see old man b-hops winning with his 10 punch per round output against Calzhage’s far superior workrate, but he’s beat the odds before.
good to see this thread ressurected.[/quote]
I never had JMM winning the first fight. No mistakes, he came back fantastically but Pac still won some of the later rounds imo. Not to mention the point scorring error…
But I agree, I would love to see a third and final encounter between these two…
Btw, guys got any predictions on Katsidis vs Casamayor??
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
What is this going to prove?
That Floyd loves money.[/quote]
One thing I heard from I believe Max Kellerman (the only motherfucker who will even talk about boxing) is that the demographic that boxing is after, which is that 18-32 white male crowd, watches a whole bunch of white trash wrestling.
If Floyd can bring just a few of them to boxing with hsi flamboyant, ridiculous act, than he’s done more to help the sport than anyone in a long time.
It seems like boxing is catching back up with the masses. I’m proud to see it, especially with how dominant MMA has been the last couple years… but the series or superfights we’ve had (especially Floyd vs. Golden boy, Floyd v. Hatton, and soon to be Calzaghe v. BHop) plus the addition of a couple of really great fighters who are actually white (you’re lying to yourself if you think that white guys don’t often root for the great white hope), plus the ridiculous talent from the Jr. welterweight to Lt. Heavyweight has kind of dragged boxing back.
HBO’s 24/7 series has also done a ton for the sport.
All we need is a couple of great heavyweights, and it could be back…
or maybe I’m just a hopeless idealist…
By the way, I’m saying BHop in 8. I’m thinking a strong right hook takes Calzaghe out. I’ll be rooting for the executioner. Tough motherfucker.
I’m waiting to see that damn Pacquaio fight tomorrow too on reruns. Looking forward to it.
Pacquiao is a huge weight cutter, more like an MMA guy than a boxer. He cuts from 145 to make 130, and he uses power to win fights, quality over quantity, and that power is just something that doesn’t translate well on a television screen compared to ringside. His punches simply count for more than the opponent’s, usually. He deserved that win over Marquez, period.
This sounds crazy, but I actually think he could move up and challenge Floyd. He’s only an inch or so shorter, and Floyd’s regular 147 pound weigh-in doesn’t involve much cutting at all. Hell, Floyd weighed in at only 150 for the De La Hoya fight, when the limit was 154! They’re actually about the same size, so they should fight, instead of Pacquiao beating up much smaller guys.
That fight would be bigger, and more competitive, than Floyd beating up an undersized, overrated Hatton or an old De La Hoya. It would be awesome.
pac-man vs pretty-boy, hmm, interesting thought.
how about david haye, anyone here think he will make an impact on the heavyweight division? seems he has a big enough frame to be a legitimate (albeit smallish) heavyweight.
[quote]Higher Game wrote:
Pacquiao is a huge weight cutter, more like an MMA guy than a boxer. He cuts from 145 to make 130, and he uses power to win fights, quality over quantity, and that power is just something that doesn’t translate well on a television screen compared to ringside. His punches simply count for more than the opponent’s, usually. He deserved that win over Marquez, period.
This sounds crazy, but I actually think he could move up and challenge Floyd. He’s only an inch or so shorter, and Floyd’s regular 147 pound weigh-in doesn’t involve much cutting at all. Hell, Floyd weighed in at only 150 for the De La Hoya fight, when the limit was 154! They’re actually about the same size, so they should fight, instead of Pacquiao beating up much smaller guys.
That fight would be bigger, and more competitive, than Floyd beating up an undersized, overrated Hatton or an old De La Hoya. It would be awesome.[/quote]
I disagree that Hatton is overrated. He’s the best 140 out there, period. Not to mention the only loss is against the greatest living fighter active. Not a bad track record.
Manny is the same height as Hatton. In boxing, that fifteen pound difference is huge, especially because a bigger fighter doesn’t equal a better fighter. Manny would have to go up to 150 to fight Mayweather, because Floyd isn’t going to come down.
On the way up, he’s going to have to fight bigger guys with more power, i.e. Hatton, maybe Wittier. If he does get to 150, he’s got to fight his way through that weight class… the road would take too long. Pac could be able to do it in five years, but Floyd will be out of the game by then.
I think it would be interesting, but I think Mayweather is just too accustomed to fighting at the heavier weights, and nobody knows how Pac would perform 15 pounds heavier… God knows it puts Ricky Hatton’s world on it’s ass.
WOOOO HOOOO! Ricky’s coming back may 24th. Can’t wait to see him.
Ricky Hatton’s Comeback Fight With Juan Lazcano Approaches Sell-Out Status
by James Slater: The eagerly awaited return of Manchester’s Ricky “The Hitman” Hatton has reportedly resulted in an almost completely sold out Manchester City stadium - capacity 55,000. Less than 5,000 tickets remain, with just over one month to go until the first bell.
The 29-year-old Hatton faces the world class Juan Lazcano, the former WBC lightweight title challenger, on May 24th, in a bout that will contest the lightly regarded IBO 140 pound championship…
The fight will, of course, mark Ricky’s first return to the ring since his 10th round TKO loss to Floyd Mayweather Junior. Anxious to get back with a win, Hatton, 43-1(31) will now get the chance to do so in front of an absolutely massive crowd of his passionate fans.
Any thoughts that these fans would diminish at all now that Hatton has lost the zero on the end of his record have proven to be utterly without foundation. Ricky is clearly as popular as ever.
The fight with the 33-year-old Lazcano, 37-4-1(27) is a decent one for Hatton to return with. While also scheduled to box on the same bill is Paulie Malignaggi, the man who currently holds Ricky’s old IBF light-welterweight title. Malignaggi, 24-1(5) is likely to face Lovemore Ndou, 46-9-1(31) in a second fight (Malignaggi won the first encounter with a clear points win).
This addition to the card will not only give the paying fans more value for their money, it will also wet the appetite for a possible Hatton-Malignaggi bout later this year. For should both men do as expected and win on May 24th, a clash between the two is in the works for the end of 2008 - possibly in Madison Square Garden, New York.
So what can the fans expect on May 24th? Hatton-Lazcano first. I see Hatton restoring his confidence with a good, workmanlike points victory over the usually durable Mexican. Ring-rust may well figure to be the visiting fighter’s main problem, as Lazcano has not boxed since back in February of 2007 - when he lost on points to Vivian Harris.
Hatton, on the other hand, is returning from the Mayweather fight after only five months out. Hatton should be sharp enough, then, to get a clear points victory.
The Malignaggi-Ndou rematch looks likely to go the full twelve also. Paulie, as even his biggest fans would have to concede, is no big puncher. And while Ndou can bang, he is unlikely to stop the IBF champ. After all, he was shutout in their first fight back in June of last year. I see Malignaggi doing something similar this time as well.
Then, hopefully, we can look forward to a Hatton-Malignaggi showdown for sometime before winter.