[quote]stupidlikeafox wrote:
noob question
If someone has the primary goal of bb/size and was either new to lifting or been at it for a while but still relatively weak is it advisable to first begin on a full body workout to begin with and then later on transition to your typical 4 day a week body part split or is it fine to go straight into a bb routine from the get go.
cheer for any help
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If you have some initial muscle mass built, I think you can go into a bodybuilding routine. [/quote]
If you don’t , but you want to start off training for size, which type of routine would you say is good, like for ex. upper/lower etc[/quote]
Full body or upper/lower, but it doesn’t have to be for long. It’s more for “learning how to lift”, so to speak. Some will disagree with me about not jumping right into a bodypart split, but it’s the way I PERSONALLY see it.
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
I eat 5x per day now with my first 3 having carbs…not even really that high overall (~20% on off days and 35% on workout days) and I haven’t gained anymore fat than when I was on high fat, low carb. Actually I’d say I’ve gained less with this method…and it tastes a hell of a lot better [/quote]
And it’s amazingly simple no? When I’m not consciously dieting, I just pay attention to how many P+C meals I get (and specifically when), and then approximate cals and protein amounts. This doesn’t ever need to get as complicated as some people let it get.
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This is exactly what I have been doing, and it works like gold. On heavy training days my first 3 meals are P+C and my last two are P+F. On light training days and off days I usually stick to one or two P+C meals and then the rest are either strictly veggies + protein or P+F meals.
Is it ok to do reps hard reps in beginning for example.
Squat:225x12, 245x10, 275x7, 275x7,315x6 all out set but considering you went pretty hard on previous sets
[quote]motherofpearl2 wrote:
Is it ok to do reps hard reps in beginning for example.
Squat:225x12, 245x10, 275x7, 275x7,315x6 all out set but considering you went pretty hard on previous sets[/quote]
No.
[quote]Hazzyhazz24 wrote:
Brick do you feel trainees that aspire to have a jacked physique should be doing direct ab work? Most bodybuilders i.e. Branch Warren, Ronnie Coleman, etc don’t. I could be wrong but I haven’t seen a Branch Warren training Abs video lately…
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I just wanted to add that I’ve seen Ronnie Coleman doing various crunches and even hanging leg raises. Yes, the latter was funny
I also recently watched a interview with Matt Kroc and he talked about his ab training, he seems to do it pretty seriously/keeping track of PRs etc
I’m assuming most bodybuilders didn’t grow abs from nothing, its just not shown often because its not very glamorous.
[quote]motherofpearl2 wrote:
Is it ok to do reps hard reps in beginning for example.
Squat:225x12, 245x10, 275x7, 275x7,315x6 all out set but considering you went pretty hard on previous sets[/quote]
Why not? I’m not talking failure sets just hard sets that does get you a little tired.
[quote]motherofpearl2 wrote:
Is it ok to do reps hard reps in beginning for example.
Squat:225x12, 245x10, 275x7, 275x7,315x6 all out set but considering you went pretty hard on previous sets[/quote]
Why not? I’m not talking failure sets just hard sets that does get you a little tired.[/quote]
225 - 275 x 6 - 10 shouldn’t tire you out much if you can squat 315 x 6. That would just be considered a normal warmup set. So your example is fine.
But I wouldn’t tire myself out with weights that are far lighter than my working sets. That would lead to a training effect I don’t want.
Hey Bricknyce. Im what you can call a beginner at bodybuilding, and ive been training for about a year. My current height is 188cm, weight - 90kg and i’ve been focusing on doing 5x5 rep schemes and so. My lifts are 110kg bench, 180kg dead, but squat i don’t know… last time i trained with 110x5! Age: 18 btw
Now i wanna focus on getting as big as possible. So a Maximum Size program is what i wanna follow, but i need some advice. Im not an advanced lifter so i need someone to help me with setting it up! What do you recommend?
[quote]Flip91 wrote:
Hey Bricknyce. Im what you can call a beginner at bodybuilding, and ive been training for about a year. My current height is 188cm, weight - 90kg and i’ve been focusing on doing 5x5 rep schemes and so. My lifts are 110kg bench, 180kg dead, but squat i don’t know… last time i trained with 110x5! Age: 18 btw
Now i wanna focus on getting as big as possible. So a Maximum Size program is what i wanna follow, but i need some advice. Im not an advanced lifter so i need someone to help me with setting it up! What do you recommend? [/quote]
You want him to set something up for you yet he set up a template on the first page of this thread.
Hey CC, when are we getting a picture of you? Its not like i dont take your advice, cos everything that you type, seems to be completely useful, and a lot of it i have copied down for later use. But out of all the ppl on these forums that are useful, u are the only person we dont know wat u look like.
Any chance of a snap shot, some before and afters maybe?? Maybe put it in ur How Do You Train page??
[quote]pro-a-ggression wrote:
Hey CC, when are we getting a picture of you? Its not like i dont take your advice, cos everything that you type, seems to be completely useful, and a lot of it i have copied down for later use. But out of all the ppl on these forums that are useful, u are the only person we dont know wat u look like.
Any chance of a snap shot, some before and afters maybe?? Maybe put it in ur How Do You Train page??[/quote]
I don’t post much anymore, partially because I don’t have the time anymore, and partially because I don’t have the patience anymore. The recreationion of Internet forum posting has worn off drastically for me.
Not to mention that I don’t care to be slammed anymore simply because I have “walked away” from bodybuilding training, don’t care for being huge anymore, and am just after general fitness, despite the fact that others and I believe I know a great deal about bodybuilding - the sport and the training.
If only people slammed and ridiculed professional sports fans because they don’t play and suck at the sports they shell out big bucks for to attend stadium events, buy sports clothing, and regalia. The sports industry would be dead.
I once got slammed because I criticized the infantile ramblings of Lee Priest, mostly because I said I’m not jealous of him at all considering I don’t care to be a pro bodybuilder. Imagine people getting slammed for attendign baseball games because they suck at and don’t play baseball (99.9999999% of fans of pro sports for that matter).
Same goes for music (hardly anyone who listens to music is a musician), movies (What viewers are actors?), books (you don’t have to be an author to enjoy a book), porn (you can be a virgin and enjoy it), or any other field thar provides recreation and entertainment.
And I don’t see how my disassociation from bodybuilding is interpreted as encouragement to do the same.
If YOU can swing the bodybuilding lifestyle, all while maintaining other areas of life to the degree you’re satisfied with–as Modok, X, and CC appear to be doing–then have at it! Do what makes you happy! I’m happy with general fitness now.
I find it extremely liberating at times to do away with a commute to a sweaty, smelly gym filled with nothing but dudes, and put on my kicks, take a 5 minute drive to the marina, look at hot women, and go for a 30 minute jog or do a bodyweight circuit on the grass that’s along the strip by the water. (I’m doing 2 weight training sessions per week this summer.) Keep in mind it’s liberating for me.
REPEAT: ME! I don’t tell others what to do.
The bodybuilding lifestyle wore away at me - the sacrifice. And I think my writing still serve a purpose just to show what kind of sacrifice–what needs to be given up–to get huge. After working 8 to 10 hours per day and attending the gym for 4 work nights per week, there was room for little else in my life.
I couldn’t deal with giving up time with friends I hadn’t seen in so long or meeting women or attending profession-related events on work nights - strictly reserving these things for the weekend.
Did not want to start a whole new thread so figured I would ask here. To Brick or anyone else really, what do you consider being in “shape” muscle/size wise? Would it be easier to follow a certain type or training routine if the goal was to look like an athlete lean and muscular and not to get as big as possible?
I ask because, I noticed you said the Defrancos training was not bodybuilding and I agree but, I have seen the pics on his site and know people who follow it in and off season and they are bigger than many on this site. In your opinion is it a scheduling/time thing? I train 5-6 times a week hitting every muscle twice but, my goal was to put on muscle. As I now evaluate my future I wonder if trianing 4x a week push/pull wuold give me the the physique I am after with less training?
[quote]Azael wrote:
Did not want to start a whole new thread so figured I would ask here. To Brick or anyone else really, what do you consider being in “shape” muscle/size wise? Would it be easier to follow a certain type or training routine if the goal was to look like an athlete lean and muscular and not to get as big as possible?
I ask because, I noticed you said the Defrancos training was not bodybuilding and I agree but, I have seen the pics on his site and know people who follow it in and off season and they are bigger than many on this site. In your opinion is it a scheduling/time thing? I train 5-6 times a week hitting every muscle twice but, my goal was to put on muscle. As I now evaluate my future I wonder if trianing 4x a week push/pull wuold give me the the physique I am after with less training?
Hope that made sense[/quote]
If you want to look like an athlete, train like an athlete.
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