[quote]forbes wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
And let’s say you had a high calorie diet (>3,000 calories for most ordinary men) and a carb allotment of 30 to 50% (depending on what you want your diet to be like. How the heck would you fill that allotment with fruits and veggies alone?! Not to mention that it would be unhealthy to take in that much fiber (>50 grams) and you’d feel like shit. Depending on activity and bodyfat, several servings of low sugar fruits can be eaten everyday. But with the amount you’re speaking of, you might have some blood sugar and body composition issues.
Each veggie exchange (1/2 cup cooked or 1 cup raw) contains a measly 5 grams of carbs. Think about how much veggies you’ll be eating for a typical bodybuilder diet. You’d be feeling like one bloated whale.
There are health benefits of eating grains too, plus they’re recommended most for early meals and post-workout meals.
I just have to ask again why you’re thinking of this, considering no one does this. [/quote]
This is one of the wisest things you have said and I totally agree. Brick, your my fav guy when it comes to REALISTIC, no bullshit nutrition advice.
I read those articles that were posted about Poliquin’s thoughts on nutrition, and let me say…good luck!
Let’s summarize what he believes we should be eating (and consequently, what we should be avoiding):
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avoid all grains
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avoid all dairy
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avoid all sugar and starches
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eat ONLY: GRASS fed meat
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eat ONLY: ORGANIC fruits and vegetables
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eat nuts and seeds, but apparently peanuts are bad.
Such a small list of food to choose from. Hmmm, let me say that I’d rather be fat and happy than limit my food intake to just that small list of food.
Look, I agree that his guidelines may be the optimal way of eating, but in our society, its just not practical. Many people who embark on such a nutrition plan can’t afford grass fed meat, such as bison and elk, and organic produce is also a lot more expensive. Are these foods optimal? Perhaps not, but if you can’t afford it, what good will it do?
I will say that grains and dairy are over rated, but they are by no means bad. If you eat a food and it makes you feel bad, simply, don’t eat it. If you feel fine, then continue. Grains and dairy have never made me feel bad, so I continue eating them.
There’s also the psychological aspect too. I agree that people should toughen up and change the way they eat to better their health, but to say “I want you to entirely cut out this, this, and this”, will cause the individual to rebel and go back to the way they were eating before. [/quote]
More on the impracticality. There have been studies with regular people in which there was no significant amount of fat lost in comparison between high carb/low-to-moderate-fat and low-carb/fat-rich dies. So they’re both effective. Obviously these studies dealt with “regular people” who don’t exercise like we do, but one of the reasons why despite a low carb diet working, it’s highly impractical for many people.
We’re a carb-eating society! And if people want to eat carbs and don’t have extensive knowledge on macronutrient manipulation, then they can still control weight with plain old caloric reduction and proper food choices (eg, oatmeal, brown rice, fruits, veggies, quinoa, beans, multi-grain bread and pasta). People want to eat a damn sandwich or a wrap or a burrito. They want to make a meal with pasta for dinner. They want to have an “OK” dry cereal in the morning.
Sorry, most people aren’t going to wake up before an hour of traffic for a “buffalo steak and steamed greens” breakfast a la Poliquin. They want to get up and get the heck out of their house for that enjoyable battle against traffic.
Also, people can’t hog two to four pieces of equipment for super and giant sets a la Poliquin either. They also don’t access to parenteral nutrition devices (intravenous) for post workout “chelation therapy” and post workout magnesium.
