[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
GetSwole wrote:
Defekt wrote:
GetSwole wrote:
football061 wrote:
GetSwole wrote:
Unnecessary until you are very advanced and are using lots of volume and/or (but usually and) shit heavy weight that your recovery ability simply no longer allows you work it 2+ times a week.
I stated earlier and will state again, I think the most splitting a relatively young trainee should do is push/pull legs.
At their recovery ability and their probably relatively small weights, there is simply no reason to give up an extra day of squatting/benching/rowing to exclusively hit delts or arms.
Notice I didn’t say don’t work delts and arms, I just don’t think they need/deserve an entire day until you are really using shit heavy weights.
These high school guys and guys who’ve been training 2-3 years simply don’t need a 5 way split and I don’t think its optimal for progress, size or strength.
As soon as I switched to a 4 day split, and/or a 5 day, one bodypart a day, I saw the most progress in size. Granted in HS I had horrible coaches when it came to weight training, and me and 2 other guys followed Ian King’s 12 weeks to super strength program for about 2-3 years of my high school career, lol. Now it’s all body split training for me, I love it.
Well, I stand corrected. Bodybuilding is beautiful, so full of options.
As for seated cable rows, I like to be leaning slightly forward, lats consciously flared the whole time. This helps me focus on my back since I get very bicep dominant if I don’t really focus on pulling movements.
Thanks for this tip. Seems that more and more about DC training is coming up, and I’ve been looking for a different twist to throw into some exercises. Mostly lats/calves. I’ll give this a try over the next few months and let you know how it goes.
I’ll just make the disclaimer that DC is an advanced program in an of itself and isn’t to be taken lightly. People ideally would have a lot of time under the bar before doing it. This is how the DOGG wants it.
However, I think its smart to learn from his techniques, extreme stretches, rest pause type stuff etc. Just don’t include those things and then tell everyone your doing DC training, cuz you aren’t.
DC, in and of itself, is advanced and should be used by those who are advanced.
Thats not directed at anyone in particular, its just a disclaimer that needs to be made as there are many noobs who hear about gains from DC training and automatically assume they should bypass all the basics and that it’ll get them big fast. Wrong answer.
/Disclaimer over, back to our regular programming.
i think how advanced the DC program is can be argued. for the sake of not having every Dante apostle on this site down my throat im not going to say that its easy or should be used by begginers as most begginers fuck up regular programs. anyway, i think so long as you can train to failure, real failure, and risk not be a pussy you can do DC but its built up like you have to be a superhuman to do it and there seems to be this holier-than-thou attitude about it.
other than the going to “true” failure all other aspects of DC such as the stretching and static holds can be applied to any training routine. i think rest pauses, static holds, and stretches are the reasons why its so successful. i also thought it was very curious that CT’s take on “ecto training” involves veeeeery similar concepts. and id say anyone interested in DC should probaly go over to USCTrojan’s PC (bottom of site’s front page) and read like the 2nd post in it where CT introduces his ideas on how USCTrojan will be training as they are very similar to Dante’s methods.[/quote]
The point is that beginners will grow off of damn near anything (and do). There’s no reason for a beginner to hop on the DC bandwagon - or even an “intermediate” lifter for that matter.
So who wants to be in T-Cell Alpha?